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PrpleTrtleBuBum
PrpleTrtleBuBum

Why shooters? If anything I'm bored of shooters being the only "hard core" game genre.

Challenging platformers? Survival horror? Adventure? Sword-action? Marginal sports like skateboarding? Party games with some depth? Stealth? PS1-PS2 generations offered a wide variety of game types while on current 360-PS3 gen it seems to be shooters vs casual hand flailing. I don't want to buy one more cover shooter or generic FPS. If the new War of Nosgoth will have cover-mechanics I'm going to scream.

Thankfully there are (W)RPGs, but even they all seem to follow the same Dragon Age, Witcher, Dark Souls, Amalur, Dragon's Dogma concept. You have one, you have them all. JRPGs have went somewhere and died though.

daviz88
daviz88

" EXCLUSIVE ARE BAD FOR GAMING", who the hell is this idiot. PS2 had more exclusive than i can count and today its the highest selling game console in history. and by the way, why is he using examples from PS3 exclusive huh? why not halo or gears of war. a XBOX fan boy like this guy shouldn't be made a journalist.

daviz88
daviz88

i am really getting disgusted with the way GAMESPOT keeps trying to defend XBOX ONE  shortcoming by saying stuff like "it not about graphics" okay true it not always about graphics but lets be honest graphics is the most pronounced feature that make each generation stand out.

daviz88
daviz88

the way they keep taking about COD & XBOX ,they do know that this isn't an exclusive game.

zowbaid
zowbaid

I agree with what you said at the end. X1 will probably sell more consoles to everyone, but it doesn't mean that it's going to sell a lot of games. PS4 on the other hand will sell consoles AND games because gamers are buying these consoles, while everyone else will probably buy the X1.

zowbaid
zowbaid

8 gigs of ram not enough? You guys are misunderstanding the point of gaming consoles. PCs use that 8 gigs for ALL sorts of things to multitask such as web browsing, listening to music, running multiple software, and playing games, so in that sense yes 8 gigs of ram is limiting. But a console is only focused on gaming for the most part. SO they are basically putting 8 gigs of ram into a whole game, that means you can have hundreds and hundreds of players on screen no problem. PCs don't do that because the rest of the ram is used for other PC functions, and the most powerful games now only require 4 gigs of ram. So 8 gigs for a gaming console is more than enough considering it isn't doing a bunch of stuff that a PC is doing.

JohnCro
JohnCro

why isnt this f*cking video working!!

Mr_Ploppy_z
Mr_Ploppy_z

" Penetrate your living room heh heheh"
Lad

meleekill989
meleekill989

Here's a problem: BATTERIES.

Seriously Microsoft? You haven't figured out how to stick a rechargeable battery into a controller yet? Come on guys. 

ejpaine
ejpaine

The XBO missed me completely. I don't and won't have cable tv to watch on my console. I don't care about fantasy football (or whatever). The game that they showed had dev's saying "we're taking a big risk not calling our game MW4.... then proceeded to make MW4 and still call it CoD....woo -_- Also, the PS3 and *presumably* PS4 has controllers that don't even need batteries (USB cables) and free PSN service.

TacticaI
TacticaI

I couldn't have been the only person that instantly thought of BF4 when one of their guys mentioned bigger player matches. That meant a lot to me because I was a huge fan of the series, and with the exception of Bad Company 2, very against playing 12 v 12. 

Aletunda
Aletunda

haha I love replacing the batteries on my 360 controller, feels like reloading it, love the way the batteries sink into the pack.

harrry95
harrry95

Cannot wait for the Xbox One, will be the #1 console this generation

sobenirvana
sobenirvana

i can see this going to be a very great system 8gb ram is a lot. E3 should have what we are looking for

predatorGS
predatorGS

same old, same old... 

same old lies.

BFBeast666
BFBeast666

"Xbox One will be the premier tool for the world's best storytellers."

CALL OF DUTY! DAKKA DAKKA DAKKA!

Need I say more? Same shit, different packaging. Now with 110% more home surveillance! AND hand wagging! Seriously, MS, that's all you could think of? I'll pass.

Evdne971
Evdne971

The graphics are better, they just didn't COMPLETELY overhaul them like the first Xbox to the 360.

Their not really noticeable at first glance.

I could say I'm a fan boy but since I'd be willing to get either console.in conclusion to that, I'm not one

I'll defend the best one...hence I'm not loyal to either hehe.

I've owned a 360 since like 2007 and loved every moment.

But PS4 is looking like something I'd buy. (Free membership)

But I also love my games on good ol xbox.

I could probly get both somehow, but Im not a fat slob loser nerd that spends all money on games... I could buy some new Jordan's or a few pair of jeans.

People will always complain, if you wanted a major graphic improvement then I doubt you could wait 5 more years for it to be jaw droppingly gorgeous, but take into account that these games aren't using the Xbox ones full power. Games improve overtime by releasing new titles on the same console. Halo 5, 6 will have noticeable improvements between each other .(example)

You'll all end up buying either one, or stick with what you got...it's inevitable.

Troika1
Troika1

There is no question that the next gen consoles are not leap-frogging PC hardware.  It's not even close.  This in and of it self is not a problem...but the consoles aren't significantly, if at all, less expensive than a decent mid-level PC.  Also they aren't upgradable like a PC is so you are locked-in and limited for YEARS. 

I think Sony and Microsoft are in trouble with these new platforms.  The win for consoles used to be the price point advantage over PCs.  However, PC hardware is commoditized and cheap now.  With that advantaged erased I think the consoles are in trouble.

@ConsoleContempt 

Troika1
Troika1

If you have a console controller in your hand neither you or the game your playing can be called a Hardcore Shooter...sorry but that's how it is. 

@ConsoleContempt 

@ConsoleContempt

Uri-Z
Uri-Z

@daviz88 Pretty sure graphics didn't make the wii stand out when it was released. It's always about the gameplay.

xpepox
xpepox

@zowbaid In the US probably, but worldwide I think the PS4 will sell more consoles.

MegaX-
MegaX-

@zowbaid i may be wrong cuz i dont remember clearly but didnt they say that the console uses only 5 gigs of ram and the rest are on the os?

Liquid-San
Liquid-San

@zowbaid A PC doesn't use all 8 gigs and the processor is what determines how many players will be on screen before lag starts to occur.

SDani456
SDani456

@meleekill989 I think they said that the controller will be rechargeable through a Micro USB cable. I'm not sure though, I will watch the event once more.

zowbaid
zowbaid

@meleekill989 I didn't know that they were still using batteries...OMG!! Have they never heard of Lithium-ion???

joel1234567
joel1234567

@Aletunda u guys are all freakin idiots. I have never had my ps3 controller die on me in the middle of a match. n the play n charge kit sucked balls n always fell out n the controller got disconnected. n u like that shitty shit.

anvilone
anvilone

@Aletunda I like it too...even though it usually means I get killed in a match.

joel1234567
joel1234567

@harrry95 I don't think u heard of ps4. n if u have  then u should probably go to the doctor because theres obviously something wrong with u.

DreDaGreat3
DreDaGreat3

@sobenirvana Sucks that it wont be using all 8. 3gb is going straight to the OS. Leaving it with only 5 for games. I guess its still enough. Though PS4 is only using 1gb for its OS leaving 7 for its games but hey who counting!!!

Kooken58
Kooken58

@Troika1 @ConsoleContempt The new console specs are nothing spectacular, Id say if you were to build the same specs in PC form it would cost you about 500 dollars.  This is including the case, Motherboard, and such.  We will see what price the new consoles will be.

anvilone
anvilone

@Troika1 @ConsoleContempt Yes and no. The idea behind the console is that you buy one box and hook that up to your television that you (presumably) already own, and you're good to go. Building a PC rig still requires all the peripherals, even if the PC itself is comparably priced to the console. I agree that PC's advantage is upgrade-ability, but you also need to figure those upgrades into your overall cost, where consoles have none. 

wilson336
wilson336

@Troika1 @ConsoleContempt "Also they aren't upgradable like a PC is so you are locked-in and limited for YEARS. "

There are two ways to look at that. You are trying to say the consoles aren't any cheaper than a mid-level PC...but to keep that mid-level PC up to snuff for playing new games, you are going to have to pay for upgrades every couple of years, or buy another mid-level PC every couple of years....in essence paying another $500, while the locked-in console gamers are playing the same games on the same system they bought years ago...


penpusher
penpusher

@Troika1 Speaking as an owner of every platform except the psp, that's elitist snobbery with no basis in fact to back it up and you know it.

daviz88
daviz88

of course game play is very important but if you were to see a game at first glance without playing it, the graphics makes the first impression.

PrpleTrtleBuBum
PrpleTrtleBuBum

@zowbaid @meleekill989 I much prefer batteries. Rechargeably lithium battery degrades and dies, and I need to buy another Microsoft certified battery. AA's are much cheaper and they have rechargeable ones too.

 But most I want wires. I don't see why everyone has problems with them. No recharging, no lag.

Toysoldier34
Toysoldier34

@DreDaGreat3 @sobenirvana 8GB isn't needed by anything. It just allows lots of room to be sloppy with the programming and not worry about the memory. There aren't even many PC games that need more than 4GB.

Troika1
Troika1

@wilson336 @Troika1 @ConsoleContempt What I'm saying is that the advantage consoles brought to the market decades ago was huge cost savings over a PC.  Back in the day you could buy a NES for about the same prices as a 16K DIMM for your IIGS.  Normal consumer market forces have obliterated the price difference between PCs and consoles now, so the big advantage of the console is gone.  There is no other advantage over a PC other than they are simpler for non-technical users to get their hands around.

As for upgrading a PC, it's only a cost if you chose it to be.  And if you do upgrade, you don't have to upgrade the whole box just the components you want (usually).  Yes if you make a big change in vid card you probably need a bigger power supply, but again all of the support components are dirt cheap. 

As for peripherals, the PC market has way more competition so the variety and innovation is better.  You don't have just one or two (crappy) options for Xbox headset.  You have dozens of options for your PC and that competition keeps the innovation level high and pricing low. 

PCs better represent user freedom, individuality, and choice than the one-size-fits-all, it's-our-way-or-the-highway console market.  In addition to this PC offer technically superior and vastly more flexible platforms.  I like these things; you may not care.  It's cool. 

ThatPjYouKnow21
ThatPjYouKnow21

@wilson336 @Troika1 @ConsoleContempt Wilson, you're wrong. Not in a rude way, but PC gaming is proven to be way more economical. You get games cheaper, my PC hasn't been upgraded in 4 years and still plays current games at a steady 40-60 FPS, and it's my home PC.... For console gamers, you'll most likely own a PC or Apple, but not for gaming.. So essentially, PC gaming is way more economical in the long run.

Troika1
Troika1

@penpusher I also own every platform and FPS interface is best on PC...hands-down, no exceptions. 

F4lloutShock
F4lloutShock

@penpusher NO basis to back it up? How about these:
How many console shooter games have "aim assist"? How many PC shooter games have "aim assist"? And how about you use gamepad in playing a multiplatform shooter game on PC against other players who use mouse/keyboard.

LtReviews
LtReviews

@Troika1 @penpusher 

Ah, yes, PC-elitism.

The new way to totally take a crap on people who aren't wealthy enough to buy every platform AND a performance PC- or have their parents buy it.


penpusher
penpusher

@F4lloutShock @penpusher So what? Some games have aim assist, some don't. Some with aim assist have the option to switch it off, some don't. Is that really all you're basing it on? Aim assist and control pads?

Sorry mate, but what you're doing is what's usually typical of fan boys. You're just making broad assumptions and generalising. That doesn't make something fact, it just makes you bias.