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So wait, it's being created by a lot of people from Infinity Ward, it's got vehicles like the Battlefield series (Titans are just vehicles, let's be honest). So what it amounts to is bouncing around the map running along walls very fast? Ummm, so what? Didn't Halo have elements in the map to allow launching of players across the map and making hyper jumps?


So where it "paves new ground" is how it "layers all these otherwise ORDINARY and COMMON elements into one game? Wait, hang on, innovation is NOT defined as the sum of ordinary parts. A bunch of ordinary, common elements of FPS games bundled into one game is NOT innovative, it's a different combination of commonality into another map pack.


I don't get it. I really don't. I won't even mention what console I have because it will turn into an immature flame war. I don't care what console/platform this game is coming to, I have no idea how this can be considered innovative when it's a mashing together of a ton of other games that we've all seen before!!!! Am I the only one who sees this?

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@dreamreaver721 The answer to that is probably in your misconception of the Titans. They are not vehicles. You don't use them for traversal, or scouting, or defense. They create a battlefield with multiple layers, where you are encouraged to battle things smaller/larger than you. In BF you stay the hell away from choppers unless you have a rocket. In Titanfall you have the power to use tactics to outsmart your opponent. It's very different.

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@dannyodwyer @dreamreaver721 Danny, if I can dissent a bit more without being called names. ;) You said in BF you stay away from choppers unless you have a rocket as a ground soldier. I've seen tactics used against choppers that have nothing to do with rockets - snipers taking out the pilot of said gunship with a skillful shot, stealing it from the enemy base (a great strategy), and others. So there are many other tactics that allow you to manage vehicles. Plus, you just used a chopper as an example...there are many more vehicles that that which enable soldiers to use far more tactics to take them down. Again, I see no glaring difference here in the tactical space aside from the speed to get more vertical. I've been very vertical in BF4 (that's what she said). I never said these games are EXACTLY the same, but you're making it sound like it's "very" different and I don't see it. Even the video footage shows a huge insipriation from Call of Duty, and why not? Why not admit that it's Call of Duty with mechs? Former IW devs plus mechs? Call of Duty is the best-selling FPS series in history, so what's so embarrassing? Call it what it is, so what? People will still buy it even if that's the case.

I'm not being a pessimist for the sake of being a pessimist; I also don't see the point of being a complete optimist in the gaming climate today, where dollars buy hype. Didn't your site report Microsoft and other companies (EA) purchasing positive YouTube feedback? Microsoft is likely betting a whole lot on Titanfall, being it's an exclusive and they're getting beat up right now (whether that's right or wrong I don't care, the fact is they are). I would argue that the same hype is driving Second Son articles every half day on various sites. I haven't played it like you have, granted, but I'm not claiming absolute knowledge here. I'm simply dissenting based on your video. This game is not that unique; it's combining ideas from other games. Sure, it may work, but I wouldn't go so far as to say it's so vastly different.

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@dreamreaver721 Everyone loves a pessimist. You forgot to say that all you do is point weapons and shoot things. Most game journalists would completely disagree with you and they have actually played the some of the game. I also wont point out what obvious console of choice you diddle with.

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@dribblesbarbax @dreamreaver721 ASSume all you want bro, but everyone loves a blind optimist just the same. Dissent and questions aren't bad things, in fact I would say in a climate where Microsoft and EA (and of course many other companies, arguably) are buying positive footage on YouTube, gamers have a right to be skeptical with gaming sites that exist because of advertising dollars. That's a fact. Many games are hyped that flop, exclusive or not. I don't want the game to fail. You mistake my dissent for some sort of Microsoft hate, regardless of my disclaimer. Well, that is your right, but I will say it again: I couldn't care less what console this is coming to, and just to satisfy your assumptions, Second Son is suffering from the same hype machine as well. The game may suck, it may be a graphically superior version of the past Infamous games, so what? It will still sell. Titanfall will sell regardless of how I feel about it.

And I don't really care - all due respect - if journalists disagree with me. I wouldn't post my opinion if I didn't want someone to disagree with me. What does that mean? Is my argument irrelevant because someone disagrees with me? Sorry bro, that is an irrational position and it is irrelevant in and of itself. Just because someone played the latest hyped game doesn't make it a good game. It's all part of the game, so to speak, of journalism and hype. These websites, no offense GS, have a vested interest in promoting the industry when so much is riding on a title like this. We have seen many titles hyped that flop. Why not be pessimistic and err on the side of caution? I haven't said one fanboy thing and you still smack me around? :)

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@dribblesbarbax @dreamreaver721 Ah, yes you did...you said that it's "obvious which console I diddle with." That's an indirect reference to fanboyism to PS4. Second, I didn't apologize. In fact, I said I really don't care if people disagree with me. I won't apologize to anyone for having an opinion. Read the reply again; I didn't apologize. Third, I called you an ass, albeit indirectly, before I called you bro. In this context, bro is not a term of endearment nor a term of biological relation. Talk about pessimist...you think you could smile maybe a bit? Your replies add nothing to the discussion, and amount to troll-like behavior from someone who apparently IS a fanboy and doesn't like someone else's opinion. Waste of my time.

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@dreamreaver721 Never accused you of any fanboyism. I did accuse you of pessimism. And I'm not your brother and you dont have to apologise.

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@dreamreaver721 No, Halo was relatively slow paced compared to this. Also, the only game that I know that blends first person shooting with elaborate movement is Brink and that didn't turn out great. If this nails it then it will be the first game to do so.


Also, Titans play like a bigger version of a soldier. They don't play anything like vehicles.

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@Zevvion @dreamreaver721 Brink had a lot of potential but it felt rushed. This will do for me. I never really got into COD or Battlefield. This is fresh!

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@Zevvion @dreamreaver721 Yea, titans act like power armor.

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@Zevvion @dreamreaver721
Yep, they even made the titans to sprint also, and while sprinting, they can't shoot either..

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I was just thinking, my 12 year old self would have really enjoyed this. The self who was playing Road Rash 64 and later Twisted Metal 2. The bots look gloriously stupid. the kill out of the canister was all AI, in case you were trying to understand.

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@masterace202 I'd still play some Twisted Metal. Shooters like this have been going downhill since Desert COmbat mod for bf1942

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My only issue is you spend most of your time running around like you're hyped up on caffeine and have ADD. I get that it's supposed to be fast but...

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@virtualskill Its simple; if you like COD, you will love titanfall. If you hate COD, as i do, you're going to have a bad time

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@PS4andXoneGamer @virtualskill I dont care for COD but I like this.

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@virtualskill It's lame and it will fail.

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@exiled_paladin @tinyname You're a moron and you have 0 friends.

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@exiled_paladin @tinyname damn Exiled Paladin OWNED Tinypenis. That was a slaughter, take it easy on tinypenis next time, bro.

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@tinyname @exiled_paladin Games that you can find on consoles are better on the PC as well. I have a better experience playing Skyrim on PC than I do on 360 because of better graphics and mod support.

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@exiled_paladin @tinyname I can tell you are. I be mad too if I have overpriced hardware and nothing to play on it.

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Consoles have exclusives.


PC's have overpriced hardware.


Consoles win and they always will.


Witcher 3 on PS4 will be the best version.

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@tinyname Shut it bell end.

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@tinyname yeah i got one of those ps4's they're pretty neat. Can't wait for one of the good exclusives you're talking about.

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@pyro1245 Puppeteer > any PC exclusive.

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@pyro1245 @Zevvion @tinyname I was going for a game with a somewhat similar style as Puppeteer. Emphasis on somewhat. Jazzpunk is really crazy and really funny.

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@Zevvion @tinyname @pyro1245 every strategy game ever

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@tinyname @pyro1245 Jazzpunk.

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@tinyname @pyro1245 hah. okay okay

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@tinyname PC has exclusives too. In fact, a lot more than consoles. Not seeing your argument.

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@Zevvion @tinyname craptacular indies. How's the last of us on your PC doing? Oh right.

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@exiled_paladin @tinyname @Zevvion You want a list of games only found on PC? Arma 3, DayZ, Loadout, Dota 2, League of Legends, Wargame Airland Battle, Company of Heroes, Warhammer 40k Dawn of War. That's just scratching the surface.

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@exiled_paladin @pyro1245 @tinyname @Zevvion yeah pretty much. that and bomberman ultra machine!

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@tinyname @Zevvion
How's the innovative Puzzle game Antichamber and innovative Horror game Amnesia on your console? Oh right..

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@tinyname @Zevvion I have a PS3 actually, do you mind that I played it on that?


Regardless, naming one title in an attempt to trivialize all of PC's exclusives makes me think you are not in possession of common sense. Any further comments will probably be moot.

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@tinyname @Zevvion what you don't realize is most people who play games on PC also have a PS for those few exclusives

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@exiled_paladin you never know!! PS4 is getting like around 90 PC indie ports this year…...

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For all those who are super hyped for this and gonna rush out to get it at launch, just remember who the publisher is. No complaining if it's totally broken.

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@Ashbfc publisher is not the developer… still, it might work!! who knows!!

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@Ashbfc I'm pretty hyped for this, but I'm not sure if I want to get it at launch, due to how unstable BF4 was (and still is <.<). I think I might just hold off on it for a little while to see if it's actually being released in a working fashion.

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@Ashbfc Of course it will be. There is no way they can get it working properly on launch day. The question is how fast they can get it stable. If it takes a couple of days they should be fine.

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@Zevvion @Ashbfc
Rumors i've heard, say that Battlefield4 still isn't fixed. So Titanfall can also take up to 3+ months to get fixed.

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@quakke @Zevvion @Ashbfc Battlefield 4 has problems with its code, not just server issues. The game was a hot mess and they released it anyway.


That's different from having server issues. That's common and normal on launch day because there is a sudden surge of connectivity that cannot be prevented (unless you throw millions of dollars against the problem, but that's crazy for 2-3 days only).

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so all fanboism aside… can't we all enjoy the fact that GOAT SIMULATOR is going to happen?!?! geez!! now, group hug...

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@Ahiru-San I'd probably get more enjoyment and play time out of goat simulator than I would titanshit and I'm not even joking

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I was expecting something better to be honest ... Ill cancel my pre-order for now and ill wait for release. Ill decide then

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