The What If Machine - Mass Effect

This week Cam sets the What If Machine to Faster Than Light mode, as we explore the space-faring technology of Mass Effect.

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mike_thoth
mike_thoth

Look, I love Mass Effect; But the people here are talking nonsense.  We could get to the nearest stars in 6 months flight time with techonology of yesterday.  In 60's nuclear airplane engines were tested, there were nuclear fission rockets tested that kick out 10,000 times more energy per particle than standard chemical rockets. The russians tested 5 nuclear rocket prototypes in earth orbit! The point is with an acceleration of 1G using one of these rockets, it would take 6 months flight time to get 30 light years! People usually do not know this stuff as it is left to Astronomers to tell the public what is possible. Engineers are the guys you need to ask. The gentleman at Oxford is simply un aware of this stuff. We have not travelled because there has been no focussed effort. Money, effort & a target equal results.

scottabc
scottabc

this show is great, have watched every ep now

da_nibbler
da_nibbler

regarding rotating space stations I'd like to point anyone interested to a tv show from the 90s called Babylon 5 ;)

iskulaatikko
iskulaatikko

"They've put an enormous rocket on a not-so-enormous spacecraft..." BEST SCIENTIFIC EXPLANATION EVER!!! :O 

raumer_raul
raumer_raul

well with solar sail can be more likely to travel trough space

prince__vlad
prince__vlad

what's that ? You idiots never heard of Discovery channel ? There they explain years ago that, fucking morons...lol

bloodycyndy
bloodycyndy

how do you get the challenge picture in the game i have several people have that but i don't and i have completed several challenges can you help

artyom570568
artyom570568

Another great episode! Love it!

 

I'm i the only one who thinks the seasons are too short? :)  we want moarrr

baihbalm
baihbalm

Thank you for these videos, educational and entertaining!

Dustyn-Barlow
Dustyn-Barlow

Thank you for this.  Great to see Gamespot having informative and educational videos like this.  Very refreshing.

savior316
savior316

Dr Erin MacDonald said we need a

 

HALO!

savior316
savior316

No one will ever see this type of space travel if we don't get the hell off of this planet and start colonizing.

 

It won't be America or Europe doing this anyway.  The Chinese are going to be colonizing the moon within the next 100 years.

Visitor_basic
Visitor_basic

Bang your metal camping mug on the table. Humans are not going anywhere anytime soon being Stuckies on this Planet. I guess the only way to travel to another place and time is through the imagination because physically you are bound to be on this Planet until you die on it. And no doubt it will cost "money" (moo-la, cash-ola) to get off of this planet instead of going round and round and round and round on it.

 

jtthegame316
jtthegame316

the krogon could be out there meeting the klingons lol

Cymru94
Cymru94

Hey cam, what do you think the next mass effect should be? sequel or prequel? . I personally think a starcraft style mass effect game would kick ass but that's wishful thinking. Nice vid btw you crazy science man :) .

Hiraishin
Hiraishin

its kinda sad to me that i wont be around if this stuff ever happens when we're able to go from planet to planet and live on them :/

amdreallyfast
amdreallyfast

IE commercials i will silence you at the source.

bomt697
bomt697

this is amazing, i love vids like these. Please keep them coming

bonefish7679
bonefish7679

From what have read the developers for Mass Effect. The story is based around a man who is in some ways a normal man, enhanced with biotics, giving him "super powers". But the crux of the story it in his heart. Her is the ultimate samara. the ultimate crusader. He is an unselfish person who is willing to take on the totality of the universe's problems not for egotistic gain, but because he is holy. He sees the galaxies in desperate trouble and his whole spirit screams for him to answer the call. he is a normal guy, but hi special combination in his soul will allow him to do nothing else. He is Plato, Ghandi, Russell Crowe's character in the movie the gladiator. An imperfect soul lost in the confusion of his life purpose, yet he is obsessed to strive an unknown destiny. I don't know whether his highest quality is his obsessive drive to succeed or his humility in place of a monster ego. Shepard is the embodiment of a true hero and it is a shame all you egotistic super-thinkers missed the boat.

 

A non-game player who recognized excellence.

gamefreak215jd
gamefreak215jd

I really wonder whether we would find the solutions for all sorts of ecological and development challenges out there in space.The Mass Effect series has really challenged our idea of the future,which we believe is filled with all sorts of challenges like ecological problem,with  their own vision filled with prosperity,a golden age for earth.

apocalipto9
apocalipto9

good narration, im definitely going to check out other episodes in this series.

tizmond
tizmond

Unless we can find a way to manipulate space, either by wormholes, quantum tunneling etc, we're never going to travel much further than our own Solar System. The amount of energy required is just too great. Even if we could get a craft to travel close to the speed of light, it would still take 20-30 years to reach the nearest observed star systems. So, unless you're able to go in to some kind of cryo-sleep, you'll most likely die of old age before you make it back. Not to mention the Time-Dilation: Even if close to speed of light travel & cryo-sleep was possible and you made it back; due to time-dilation, you'd arrive back on Earth and 10,000, or more, years would have passed. It's mind-boggling stuff. So, like I said, unless we can somehow come up with a shortcut, we're not going anywhere soon. It's highly improbable that we'll explore our own galaxy and more or less IMPOSSIBLE to travel to the billion, or so other galaxies in the universe.

killeridis
killeridis

Well in Mass effect all the MAJOR tech all races have they found how to make them in beacons, and the mass relays were just there and the Citadel as well soo they kinda cheated. We need to discover and build all those thing by ourselves unless we can find some cool beacon database thing with good guides and schematics :)

dookie611
dookie611

I tell you what - the commenters on the The What If Machine features are not at all like the commenters on gamespot's run-of-the-mill content.  You guys are an interesting, intelligent, insightful bunch.  Thanks to all of you!

shantd
shantd

Good stuff as always, Cam...but I think I might've just focused on FTL travel for this one. There wasn't enough meat to make an entire meal out of this episode such as it was.

Codester_41
Codester_41

Very Cool information, especially with the space suit. Awesome episode!

ponci7
ponci7

@mike_thoth No conventional propulsion engine will get you to travel 30 ly in 6 months. You can achieve high speeds with nuclear fuel, yes, but you won't be able to even come close to the speed of light - laws of physics won't let you.

neyel8r
neyel8r

 @prince__vlad um... maybe everybody out there doesn't know everything like you do, so gag yourself

amdreallyfast
amdreallyfast

 @bonefish7679 I like your description of the paragon approach, but I think that the renegade approach is quite the opposite: a cold hearted, selfish, totalitarian, dominating, impatient, get-the-mission-done commander.  He has options.

amdreallyfast
amdreallyfast

 @gamefreak215jd Your reaction reminds me of the effects that Star Trek had on previous generations.  I wonder if Mass Effect can also inspire a new generation of people to become scientists and engineers who look towards space.  Many people at SpaceX, Virgin Galactic, and NASA grew up watching Star Trek, so I wonder if this generation will follow them in similar endeavors after being inspired by Mass Effect, or will the inspiration just decay into nothing more than dreams?  Hopefully the former.

gamefreak215jd
gamefreak215jd

But the truth is to achieve that level of development,a global unification is required.With countries busy fighting amongst themselves it is quite obvious that the funds supplied for  scientific development will be insufficient.So I guess it might take us at least a century or two to leave this solar system.Space travel isn't something that can be achieved by us  in a few years.

xlord121
xlord121

 @tizmond Actually the faster you move relative to objects around you = the slower time goes...

So if we were able to achieve speeds of almost light speed than time would almost stop

Therefore we would be able to travel to and from solar systems fairly quickly according to earth clocks

1stormbringer77
1stormbringer77

 @tizmond That's more realistic in real life. As many have said, unless we do come up with the Wormhole,Stargate,Warp Factor 12,etc., we humans are more likely to cease existing before Sol itself goes boom. Science Fiction/Fantasy is nice to escape life in books, movies or video games every now and then, but I'll except life as it is right now that Me and everybody else aren't going to go to the Citadel or anything similar to it any time soon.

mike_thoth
mike_thoth

@ponci7 @mike_thoth I also did not mention conventional engines. I am talking about nuclear fission rockets that were tested in Los Alamos during the 1960's. Using this technology you can get to our nearest star in 6 months. I think the 30 light years was a typo. Certainly this technology acceleration at 1 G would get us there within 6 months. Mars much quicker.  If you want to know about space travel, ask a aerospace engineer or a physicist.

mike_thoth
mike_thoth

@ponci7 @mike_thoth Yes you are correct in what you say currently but I did not make any mention of the speed of light in my post. We should also remember that scientific progress is made by doing things differently in an unconventional way. The future is not an extrapolation of the past. The Laws of Physics are man made, and we know with 100% certainty that our mathematical laws of space/time are wrong. Physicists know & who knows what could happen in the long term future if we invest time & money to do so.

The_Syzygy
The_Syzygy

 @amdreallyfast  @gamefreak215jd Not really. At least Star Trek based it's technology off of actual scientific theory at the time. Mass Effect requires the existence of a magical element called Element Zero to have any and all of their technology to work.

ponci7
ponci7

@mike_thoth @ponci7 Our nearest star (apart from Sun) is Alpha Centauri which is ~4.2 LY away. To travel that distance in 6 months, you would need to travel at 8.4 * speed of light. This is not possible using any engines that humanity know of at the moment, including nuclear engines (this is what I meant by saying conventional engines). Of course we have no idea of what scientists will find out in the future and at some point, it might be possible to achieve this, but not right now.

amdreallyfast
amdreallyfast

 @The_Syzygy  @gamefreak215jd  The communicators and tricorders were basically magic at the time (the tricorder in particular, and the communicators could allow them to talk in real time over hundreds of thousands of miles in space, so basically magic), and antimatter reactions were regulated by dilithium.  Star Trek has its fair share of fantasy :).