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Wawas20
Wawas20

yeah i agree danny its rubbish the way games are talked about on tv. main reason i cant watch these or even that bf4 live event few mths back that was so bad. hopefully it changes soon. alli we need is one real gaming tv show on free to air tv not cable that rates well. youtube is the only way to real sites. just look at captainsparklez he has 6 million subs and 1 billion views.  

AJC_king
AJC_king

Danny I feel the same! At 34 I feel nothing has changed. I still remember my dad buying the VIC 20 when I was just 6 years old, and never stopped playing games since. And it was always a case of... "Oh games are for kids" not taken very seriously! The media in general need to take us more seriously and have more respect. The video games industry make approximately $100 Billion this year alone!  Put that in your pipe and smoke it TV studios... and every body that dont get games!

csward
csward

 Great video Danny. The company I work for says 99% of millennial men and 94% millennial of females self-identify as "gamers". That should make it pretty obvious who Spike should be targeting and I have to believe Spike knows that.


I think it was smart to put the show online, but obviously the host choice was wrong, so wrong that perhaps it was done on purpose to stir up a buzz. I think another outlet (like CBS Interactive, c'mon guys ^^) could put on a way better show and make a lot of positive buzz for the industry and get some ad revenue as well.

jessie82
jessie82

i miss random encounter :(

GunEye
GunEye

Danny I love you, you nailed it. I couldn't agree with you more man.

It all sums up to the ignorance and shallowness of people outside our community and industry.

We love games, not just because they are a fun medium of entertainment. But because we appreciate the art, the dedication, the vision and creation as a whole.


Sounds like a big bull to bring that blown up ass to host a show about games.


I think we don't even need to justify our love, the gaming's image is golden among the hearts of those who really know it. But your show was just right.


genjuroT
genjuroT

Great show. One of the reasons I keep coming back to GS.


genjuroT
genjuroT

I click the link on the front page to come here and it leads me to "Gran Turismo 6 wants to bring your real-life races to its digital track". 

ledonvinton
ledonvinton

i soo agree with you Danny.  I felt so bad for Jeff

Casuallad
Casuallad

Well said danny your the man likes should be un ambassador for gamers or some shit haha


How the gaming industry can be worth more the films and music combined and not be taken seriously is simply baffling.


On a lighter note though ginx tv is doing good in the uk you know that little country you used to live in ;)

vadagar1
vadagar1

im pretty sure that most game makers (in all areas) do a hell of a lot more work than all the Hollywood fakers COMBINED.....

this world makes me sicker and sicker every day, people slave away at meaningful jobs like collecting garbage, teaching, practicing medicine, photography, games.....etc etc etc


and yet the 1% of people that do practical SHIT all day have 99% of the world's economy up their useless asses.


paris hilton makes 2 billion dollars a day and acts like she is god's gift to humanity.


1 zillion nurses make 10 dollars an hour!!! and they spend thier time cleaning shit and blood and helping people in need.


LOGIC MUCH


humanity i just want to say FUCK you and im ashamed we are from the same species

vadagar1
vadagar1

yah the gamer stereotype.... honestly people should get over that already, it was funny in the ... 90s... but honestly games are part of every person's life... like phones and cars... its not a "thing" any more.


we used to make fun of people with cell phones back in the days, now everyone and their dog carries one.


I'm not saying it should not be parodied every now and then... nothing is too good to be criticized, but people should seriously find something else to crap over

metalkid9
metalkid9

not sure why people keep complaining about the show. I really enjoyed it alot. It's unfortunate people didn't seem to have enjoyed it as much as I did. 

drswank
drswank

I've been saying this since 2004. Never watch this dreck. Great video. Though I did think Gameswipe and the new "How Video Games Changed the World" shows with Charlie Brooker do an excellent job of representing gaming.

herbie12282
herbie12282

amen brother, i didn't watch the stream but the lowlights i caught of it were frustrating to watch.  I'd rather have no show about video games on TV at all than have this.  It was almost as if Joel McHale was actively sabotaging the show. 

HybridExtreme
HybridExtreme

Video game awards shows need to be hosted by people in the know. Geoff Keighley is a guy who knows and respects the industry. We don't need celebrity figures. Our entertainment comes in the form of reveals, exclusive interviews and big announcements. We love games. If we wanted to see celebrities and low level actors we'd watch the Emmys.

Jedi4ce28
Jedi4ce28

People still watch television?...  Most of it has always been a mass of refuse. Can't recall the last time I bothered. Get more entertainment out of various web shows/internet personalities these days instead of more of the same recycled junk shown on tv, including VGX.

MondasM
MondasM

who cares, vgx is going to die soon, just as any other mainstream medium trying to milk any up and coming fan based medium...


it's not the first or the last time... :)

DSCesq
DSCesq

I still don't understand why they can't have a more serious awards show. Not Oscar serious, but more along the lines of E3 serious. A big convention where all the nominated games are able to be played by the attendees, but have a formal event that night to give out the awards. 

limbo12
limbo12

you will suffer through it again, as long as we have capitalism.

nichous77
nichous77

Don't hire a snarky comedian whose main job is roasting reality clips to host your terrible show with awards nobody cares about, trailers for games that were announced months ago, and announcements that get leaked to gaming sites the day before. Whoever made that call probably keeps bacon in their pockets and wonders why their dog is always sniffing.

RevLux
RevLux

The sad thing is that there are a number of celebrities that actually love video games and may have done a wonderful job. Though personally I don't feel a video game awards show requires "star power" in order to be watched. If they feel they simply must hire one at least get one that doesn't come across as an asshat to the  main group of people watching the program. As obvious as that seems it must not be obvious enough...

nyran125tk
nyran125tk

Danny O Dwyer should Co-Host the next one. 


JustPlainLucas
JustPlainLucas

I didn't see the VGX, but I have seen Joel McHale host those two Ubisoft press conferences and both times, my face was numb from all the palmings.  

sensesfail99
sensesfail99

the guy isnt funny to begin with, i dont know why he was put on there but im glad i didnt watch it and suffer


GhostofWar75
GhostofWar75

Yeah Joel didnt belong here. It was awkward to watch and i did feel like he was rude to some of the guest there.


BlazeKingz
BlazeKingz

in truth i would rather see youtubers who are affiliated with games host these awards. I mean poeple like Angry Joe or Totalbiscuit or Jesse Cox and not poeple like pewdiepie and tobuscus.....

DamnILoveGames
DamnILoveGames

I'm honestly sad that it crashed and burned so horribly. Considering how massive gaming has become as a medium and continues to grow, you'd think that there'd be enough effort put into making the 1 show that exists about it decent.

TimeFrame
TimeFrame

Stop taking yourselves too serious...sss.. batman.

Sharpie125
Sharpie125

Everybody is complaining Joel McHale was disrespectful and an asshole. Really, what was the most *offensive* thing he said during the stream? The gamer jokes? I'm almost a hundred percent sure those "Cheetos dust" jokes were from the teleprompter and Joel was just speeding through them because he had to. If Neil Patrick Harris said the same things, there would be no issues whatsoever.


And people say the Tim Schafer interview was awkward and mean-spirited... but Schafer was one of the few devs who could actually keep up with Joel's style because they're both funny dudes. Joel riffed, but he never insulted. If you take great personal offense at anything that was said, this is why people get so worked up over on System Wars.

glennwinton
glennwinton

I liked Joel McHale, but then again I like him generally, his sense of humor appeals to me. I thought it was strange that he hosted, since he has nothing to do with gaming. I don't think it is necessary to bring in people who obviously know very little about video games. McHale is more humorous when he's making fun of daytime television, another Soup host I think  would have been better was Chris Hardwick, very similar sense of humor, more related to gaming culture.


As far as the actual content and failure, the VGX wasn't a failure because of McHale (you give too much credit to Geoff, by the way), in my opinion it wasn't even a failure, It's as expected based on the mistakes of the producers. Games don't have a respected organization where an award actually means something. TV, Movies, Music all do, but the closest thing we have is the VGX, yet the VGX isn't stable enough to even have a consistent brand. As much as I defend McHale, his selection for host simply made no sense. this hot selection issue is one of the problems, it's a feeble attempt to "expand" an audience. Instead of "expanding" the audience they need to brand it for gamers and with gaming culture. Movie Awards don't try to expand their audience to gamers or music industries, why should we?

MonkerzX
MonkerzX

Joel McHale was the best thing about VGX. He knew it was fucking awful and treated it as such.

kuda001
kuda001

I think the image of the gaming industry is changing. The number of people regularly playing games far exceeds those who do not. The negative stereotype is fast disappearing but obviously there a few dicks out there. Ultimately, games are mainstream they just need to build their own cultural place in society and that takes time.

uklegendkiller
uklegendkiller

The awards needs a complete re-work and while I like Keighley, he clearly cares about the medium, but he is not a great host. I've said before countless times Adam Sessler should host the VGX's and if you're going down the co-host route get Felicia Day! People who get the industry and know what it's about. Thinking about the VGX's it still insults me as a gamer!

Unbound72
Unbound72

People like McHale are not why gaming isn't taken seriously. Just look to Gamespot for their troll articles trying to bait people into flame wars for the sake of getting numbers on the site. Look at the massive amounts of toolbags that play games with their terrible attitudes and superiority complexes. Listen to the mouth breathers spewing hate and insults over the mic in every single online game. Look to to the reviews done on games and how the fanboys react when their game doesn't achieve the score they believe it should have gotten which is usually followed with wishing death on the reviewer or at the least wanting said reviewer to have his job terminated. It's not really that hard to see why gaming and gamers are considered a joke among many. 

BertoFlyingFox
BertoFlyingFox

VGX sucked because Keighley is a crap-host (always was, always will be), Mchale was just hired on to take a paycheck (with SpikeTV knowing FULL WELL what kind of person he is on-screen), and there was absolutely nothing to talk about.

All this showed me is that developers are scrounging around trying to make ANYTHING that excites gamers after the "ooh, shiney new console" period ends, while Nintendo revealed leaked info (because why show new games when a Nintendo Direct can overshadow VGX without a problem).

I wouldnt be surprised if Sony/MS ran towards the No Man's Sky developers for exclusivity deals, considering their current stable of upcoming games look like the same old junk but with slightly updated graphics (or "cinematic techniques"), a bigger paycheck for the big wigs, and even less money for the developers (with the beautiful chance of getting their studio closed down).

lars0110
lars0110

Honestly tho all you butthurt people are making me ashamed to be a gamer

lars0110
lars0110

Fuck Jeff Winger, let fat Adam Sandler host that shit

Jcray21
Jcray21

@vadagar1 OMG take away my dog's cell phone all hell breaks loose.

kenMENLY
kenMENLY

@RevLuxThe problem is not about which celebrities love game, and which do not. It's more about the attittude of other people that was shown toward the gaming industry; "Game is for fools and lossers". However, we- game lovers- can always made our own point by raising our middle finger.

vadagar1
vadagar1

@nyran125tkin a world where most people have brains that function... that would happen

jicrichton
jicrichton

@GunEye @herbie12282Joel McHale is a sarcastic, rude a$$hat. I have been a gamer since PONG and I am personally so tired of being treated like a loser because I enjoy doing something interactive with my friends. How is it any worse than sitting and staring at a TV show or getting crazy about sports?