Reality Check - What Makes Hardcore Fans So Hardcore?

Reality Check takes a trip to Fanfest to study the psychology of hardcore video game fans. Just what is going on inside their loyal brains?

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Wensea10
Wensea10

Superb question man, this really goes toward people forcing video games to be part of them every second.

Brando008
Brando008

Great episode Cam, very interesting

nyran125tk
nyran125tk

I love that "if you are a gamer with a capital G you will eat mac and cheese to fund your gaming habit"


- yep.... Tis true.

nyran125tk
nyran125tk

Counter Strike probably gets most of my hours. ARMA 2 is getting a sht load of my time at the moment also.

RuthlessRich
RuthlessRich

Both you and Seb referred to the increase from maximal strength to absolute strength as a third. True, the gain is one third of your maximal strength. But raising 2/3 to 1 is an increase of a half, not a third.


It sounds much cooler to say that we become up to 50% stronger when we access our absolute strength!

XCyberForceX
XCyberForceX

Ingroups = Tribalism.    for example separate nations are modern day ingroup tribes.  Nothing new here.


On another note I always thought about trying Eve Online.  MIght give it a shot, my type of game.


scarred_fox
scarred_fox

just like it mentions in the vid, when you put forth time and effort into a single item, you become part of a community that is exclusive and apart from others.


another example would be with the console wars. PC owners that game, build their own rigs. they take the time to research the hardware, the compatibility and troubleshoot if necessary during initial boot phase. consoles, plug and play. so there's the separation on that.


anyway, good episode. played SWTOR for 2 yrs and taking part with a community is what prolonged my departure. difficult when it happened.

SaintsRowLA
SaintsRowLA

"A we group and a them group.  A we or us and everyone outside of us."


That's the basis of a cult--just exploit it.

SaintsRowLA
SaintsRowLA

"Gamers with a capital G will forsake everything and eat mac n' cheese or noodles and sacrifice everything for their game."


He got that one right.

Gamers with a capital G are just like heroine addicts, meth heads, alcoholics and most any other drug addicts.

The-Neon-Seal
The-Neon-Seal

Massive Doctor Who fan here *raises hand*. 



Trekies... Pfft...

mr_nee
mr_nee

Wonder when will Manchester United will actually learn to play? It's pathetic to watch those wussies running after the ball the opposing team has all the time

kassador
kassador

When life gets rough "Gamers" eat noodles while "casual gamers" buy food instead of games?????

This is one of the stupidest things I've heard in my life... and I've heard a lot of stupid things...


So, even tho I play games EVERY single day, but I can't buy all the games I want because I need insignificant things like food, clothes, a house, etc I'm not a "Gamer"? 

Apofis_SG-1
Apofis_SG-1

I dont really see whats so good in being called hardcore. That would make people think I spend whole days in front of my PC and never go outside. I have a friend who is that kind of hardcore. But I like just to call myself fan of the game or game series. The same way I am fan of some kind of band. Ofcourse I spend about 300+h in Skyrim. Witch is A LOT for me. But it was in the period since game was released till now, witch is a bit more than 2 years. Anyway its still game I spend most time in it.

ArchoNils2
ArchoNils2

Well ... that explains the console war. Pretty much what I expected anyway though

SpLiTMaN
SpLiTMaN

eum ok why are you targeting eve on this one....the fanfest isn't Hardcore fandom Its an Actual community Wroking as a whole to create a game...if every companie would take as much time on there player as eve online does there would never ever ever be another COD.....it just so happens that most eve players are from that part of the world there not actualy traveling that far....

drumjod
drumjod

Great video. Eve Online looks like an awesome experience, but sadly, I doubt I will ever invest the time it would take to get into it.

skiggy34
skiggy34

I think this gets thrown around too much.  Fanboys try to call themselves hardcore gamers which is a complete joke.  Fanboys spend more time on website forums than actually playing games. Fanboys are insecure about their purchase so they have to criticize what others get.  Fanboys try to persuade others to like only what their console of choice offers and dislike games on other consoles that they have never played or never even seen.  Fanboys are NOT hardcore gamers.


Hardcore gamers are the ones who play every game they own to the extreme, a gamer that is open to all genre's and likes of games, will play an 8-bit indie game in the 8th genre of consoles, actually comment on game forums for community and information. Thats my idea of a hardcore gamer. not some poser fanboy thats close minded towards another console...

amdreallyfast
amdreallyfast

Sounds like tribal/clan affiliations that stuck around in the modern world, or perhaps tribal/clan affiliations are a form of fan base.

Is this an "all rectangles are squares but not all squares are rectangles" set problem?

BranKetra
BranKetra moderator moderator

To be called a hardcore gamer is a compliment. Being called a fanboy is not.

BallOBaseSimmer
BallOBaseSimmer

What's going on with hardcore fans? Mob sheep lemming fanaticism. That's what. Gaming had its heyday in the late 1990s. It went to shit in 2005 -2006 after everyone was forced online and the last decent sports games came out. Now 90% of the market is dystopian shooters that celebrate a cartoon culture of violence and death as fun pastime. How many of these games can you play before overkill sets in? I miss sports games. Without them, the industry has become saturated by a RPG genre of one trick pony gaming.

megagene
megagene

Was this video really just a plug for EVE Online in disguise? Because if so, it worked. I kind of really want to play it now. 

Coco_pierrot
Coco_pierrot

to me it is the same as what we call casual and harcore gamers ... a stupid term for assholes who needs to only play M+ games because they are soooooooo hardcore.


I never understood being a fan and defending something so bad ... I do what I do and love what I love and the day to won't speak to me anymore I'll go somewhere else ... I don't need to bash others to feel better.


Saddly this is how it is here ... all of a sudden I feel nostalgic of the day the only gaming news was through mag that came out once a month ...

Kinguard73
Kinguard73

One sentence could have explained the entire concept. Sport's fans.

meedokicky
meedokicky

LMAO was that Greg at the end? XD


Anyway, great episode Cam :)

Johny_47
Johny_47

After reading the title I'm thinking... next video please =P

Celsius765
Celsius765

What makes a hardcore gamer "hardcore"? absolutely nothing people just like to label themselves as such, it's all a sense of pride in the type of games they play

phbz
phbz

@kassador  I don´t know exactly what is you problem... but what he is saying is quite simple to understand.

With non essential products you have basically 2 types. The one that really likes the product and it´s willing to sacrifice some of it´s essential necessities to accommodate the said product in their life, and the ones that are more casual to the product and won´t sacrifice anything of significance to get it. i.e. Food.

loafofgame
loafofgame

@SpLiTMaN Where are you from? I mean, no matter where you come from, Iceland is quite a distance and rather expensive. To me it seems someone's pretty passionate about EVE if he/she attended this fanfest. Besides, fandom and community aren't mutually exclusive. Those people are first and foremost fans of the game; it's the reason they congregate. I mean, it's called fanfest for a reason.

alpha_unit97
alpha_unit97

@skiggy34  According to your logic, people who pour thousands of hours into mmo's like Eve and WoW aren't hardcore gamers, I couldn't disagree more.

A hardcore gamer is someone who spends the majority of their free time playing games and is passionate about the games they play. It shouldn't have anything to do with how many games you play.

loafofgame
loafofgame

@skiggy34 I doubt a lot of people will fit your definition of a hardcore gamer... ;-)

loafofgame
loafofgame

@BranKetra One could argue that a hardcore gamer is a fanboy in a broader sense...

Dannystaples14
Dannystaples14

@BallOBaseSimmer  Woah what? You miss sports games? Have you also missed EA Sports? That company that churns out about six sports games a year?

Extricition
Extricition

@megagene  If it was, did it work? -edit: well see you in the game then :D

amdreallyfast
amdreallyfast

@meedokicky  I watched the last few seconds just to see what you were talking about.  I was not disappointed.

BranKetra
BranKetra moderator moderator

@Celsius765 Tell that to Daigo Umehara.

leakingdogmilk
leakingdogmilk

@Celsius765  


Yeeah....even large corporations have to distinguish between casual gamers and core gamers because they are completely different people. 

BranKetra
BranKetra moderator moderator

@loafofgame @BranKetra That would be insulting.

BallOBaseSimmer
BallOBaseSimmer

@Dannystaples14 @BallOBaseSimmerEA Sports has mailed in too many modern titles and is not the same company that it once was in the heyday of PC gaming. And it was not the only one to release sports games.

loafofgame
loafofgame

@BranKetra I must admit I associated 'hardcore gamer' with people who play videogames a lot, not with the politer version of a fan (which I think is what it meant in the context of this episode). My point was that the way in which a lot of 'hardcore gamers' justify their hobby doesn't really appear to be that different from 'fanboys' who passionately defend a specific title or platform. But I suppose that in this context 'hardcore gamer' means a fan of a particular title that doesn't rely on insult and aggression when defending that title. Still, I personally wouldn't want to be called 'hardcore', because to me that label carries too many negative connotations.

Extricition
Extricition

@jacquelineferre @Extricition @megagene  He edited it. But thanks for caring so much about my comments (see I edited mine now, Gamespot allows that!)