@Gabe_Logan_666 Didn't mean to bash on you. I also like a lot of games that are not realistic, but all I wanted to say was that the Flashpoint series is known for well-executed realism - that's what was always so special about it. But Red River is neither realistic nor well-executed. And yes, to some previous commenters, I admit that I was once again fooled by Codemasters and this game is totally a COD clone (minus the regenerating health)
@LoneWolf21Bravo, This may be a late response but I just cleared out my inbox recently and came across this, Ok so first of all I'm going to assume you looked at my profile and the games I was currently playing since you off handily mentioned Black Ops, I need to make on thing clear, I'm not a COD fanboy who compares every FPS out there to COD which I feel is what you were implying. I basiclaly played Black Ops for the first month and a half it was released and have not played it since, I've been very burnt out with COD since the frusturation that is MW2. And never in my post did I state or imply that there is a game out there that can satisfy everyone. I am very well aware that everyone has different tastes and different opinions when it comes to video games, so I don't have anything to learn and don't need to be catigorized with those people that were talking about. The reason for my post was that I was reading other posts in here that were saying this game is better than other games because it is more realistic and all I was saying is that's not true. Enough said.
@Gabe_Logan_666, I know a few great realistic games and OFPDR is one of them. Not everyone agrees on what a good game is, and there is no game that will satisfy everyone, and people (like you) need to learn this as well. I like realistic, hardcore games and that's who OFP series is meant for. COD Black Ops may have had a few good moments, but the SP campaign was so stupid, I never played through the whole thing again (the first Modern Warfare was the best in the series, in my opinion), but that's me -- I'm a dude born in USSR and grew up on war documentaries and military stuff (and bad 1980s movies). What you call a "good game" may not be a good game for someone else, because we all come from different backgrounds and like different things.
OFDR is a game for the pure tactician. You are under severe pressure from the start to make the correct decisions to win. This can mean as complicated for example: being attacked from above hill side, you decide to place your troops in a line formation (straight line side by side) with a wide spread (spacing between guys). You also know that the guys above you always has the advantage, so you make a decision to crouch (others tend to follow). You decide not to be at the base of the hill , but to move up about 10 metres on the hill. The net effect of your decision means that although they're shooting underslung grenades at you, + firing tons of small arms fire, you have the advantage. You are partially hidden by the foliage. You are far away enough not to be in the blast zone of the grenades. You can see the charging enemy as they are standing up silouetted against the sky, whereas you are camoflagued. This is how difficult this game is! Can you think under pressure? Can you make game winning decisions? If you want to run about, jumping and doing other impossble things then go the usual COD etc route. If you fancy testing your metal against someone in a real war sim try OFDR. The multiplayer version of this game has the most amount of quitters of any game I've seen. Most people cannot take the absolute bombardment that an opponent who knows what they are doing can force on them.
sleepychicken....Yup, and in dragon rising they used British Royal Marines tactics/formations but then put American skins on them. I'd definatly buy this game if it was British forces based, but because its yet another game about the uninteresting American Army fighting a war on their own with insurgents (when we have our boys fighting the war on terror too) So over used in all other games probably i wont be buying it! I'm (as im sure everyone else is) getting bored with playing as an American now....The games market is saturated with games where by the American is the lead character, yet America comes no where near making half of the worldwide games sales.So why should the rest of the world be forced to fight as an American.British forces are fighting in terrorist wars too, when are they going to get a game made about them? It would be a better game too, because basically Britain fights with fewer numbers (10,000 in afghan' to Americas 50,000) but still gets the same results, making for a much more interesting game.Not only that but a British sniper holds the record for the longest ever sniper kill, im sure that could be implemented somehow too.
What a great game OPDR is. Play online with formidable opponents like me and you'll have an experience unlike any other. Please keep modes like annihilation cos that's the best.
This style of game (from codemasters) has been around for a long time. And they have had a huge gap in time from when they made one of their games due to legal issues with who would own the rights to it (Codemasters and Bohemia made the originals but have since gone their seperate ways). This is no COD or BF, this is a simulation style game (like ARMA). ARMA (bohemia) has come out with 3 stand alone games and 2 expansions since then, Codemasters only 1. Give it time and im sure they yet will impress, they definately have a motive.
@ brok This game is developed by a British developer. How can a game developed by British people reflect what Americans have learned about past wars? You're as ignorant as all the people complaining about Battlefield games being American war propaganda even though it's developed by a bunch of Swedes.
look people if you want a realistic fps buy arma 2 arrowhead or red orchestra 2 when it comes down to it they are the best simple as that..
To those saying that you're being fooled: we were indeed fooled by Dragon Rising, but it seems CM learned their lesson from all the negative feedback they got from the Flashpoint:Cold War Crisis (aka original operation flashpoint) community that false advertizement is not a good marketing strategy. I can tell they're being honest by the fact that I've heard quite a few disappointing things in their videos (like the lack of a mission editor or "moving away from this simulator pigeonhole"). If they were trying to fool us again, they wouldn't be saying these things. That being said, I do have hope for Red River.
To those comparing RR to COD: Play Dragon Rising on hardcore. It's a COMPLETELY different genre (i.e. no regenerating health, no jumping, you bleed if you get shot and other realistic aspects that are not in the COD series). The whole game takes place on a single enormous map, and you can wonder off if you like (except you may fail the mission if you do). It's not meant for the same audience that COD is meant for. As much as I don't like COD, it's got a good nieche that's hard to get into for other games. CM understands that, so the Flashpoint series does not try to "compete" with COD in the same market.
I loved the first games challenge. It was very realistic, gotta love games like this and Rainbow Six
*Looks at Dragon Rising* *Looks at Red River* Fool me once shame on you...fool me twice...and you are persuasive.
This game is gonna be the bomb! Plz dont compare this game to Call of Dooky...They are two totally different games...if the multiplayer in this game was used in games such as CoD and RB6 it would change the way ppl played Tact. Shooters. No hip firing, no garbage cover systems or jumping thru the air will shooting. Cmon WTF?!
@jesseandnikki true it's competing against COD and the like, and politics don't belong in games. Nevertheless politics have now been put in this game. If it doesn't wan't to look like it supports the whole hearts and minds spin, then it-shouldn't-have-said-it-in-the-trailer. And I assume it will practice what it preaches, otherwise it becomes false advertising.
Brok, although I agree with most of your statement, this is a video game in a genre competing with other big time shooters like Call of Duty. If the objective of the game was to only win local hearts and minds it would bomb. There's not a big market for that. Take your politics somewhere else and let everyone else ENJOY their video games.
Look at that map! Codemasters, PLEASE reconsider your decision not to include a level editor for PC...!
OK WAY BETTER THAN CALL OF DUTY black ops gets so boring cause you dont even get anny adventure out of it the maps are only so big it gets boring quick especialy when you cant even snipe withought someone comming up behing you all the time ,and its more realistic i give this game a 9.5 not a 10 that would be arma 2 excluding the fact how much bugs it has but i hope they will at least give you some helicopter to fly in this one as they did in the last one and so you can use em more often so you can be the support for your guys i believe this is gonna be one of the best games for 360 at least 4 me annyway
Can't wait to play this i hope the requirements won't be so high my rig is getting old. I read somewhere that there won't be a mission editor, Is that true?
Still WAY too 'America's gonna save the day' for my liking. 'Entered the fray' my foot. You don't win local hearts and minds by carpet bombing hillsides with an A-10. If the game actually treats a US invasion in this way, then all it's saying is that the US learned nothing from Vietnam. And Korea... And the Gulf War... and Gulf War 2... well at least it's shaping up to be an accurate protrayal I guess...