LADIESMAN & Ganks...Do you live in 3rd country like me?? yes western is bastard, but do you know why it happen? because my people is fool to allow that things..so nothing to blame..Just enjoy the game and shut off your mouth or talked in other link...
Couldnt agree more Ladiesman. Very little has changed in the last 200 years except now a few big nations like USA, UK etc want to leave the map how it is (unless they want to take something). So what they all did in the 1600s taking the lands of others is now considerd off limits. Its a pretty good system, take all the land, take all the power, then tell anyone who tries to follow that its wrong. Cartman nailed it, "we will build a country based on saying one thing and doing another and we will call it the United States of America". You could substitute USA for basically any western power.
It's funny how much controversy this new MOH has started on GS. None of this happened when the 1st one came out, nothing like this was ever brought up about ANY of the COD games or even HOMEFRONT, which actually surprised me. Now all of a sudden we have all these "politically correct" and "conspiracy nuts" all over the website. It's pathetic. Yes, governments lie...yes, wars aren't the greatest...yes, most of you are f***in' morons because you don't know the first thing about war because your not Service Members like myself who actually serve on the frontlines (on my 4th deployment FYI). Stick to video games and leave your political BS for POLITICAL forums...political or government issues are not going to effect video game sales EVER!!! You either like the game or you don't. It's that simple. Why even bother clicking on the link then!?
"In terms of politics, it's really not in a soldier's best interest to have any real opinion on why we're there or what world events lead us to be there. End of the day, you're there with your mates."
I'm sorry soldier, but the act of war is in its very nature political and if you don't know why you are killing the people you are killing, perhaps you shouldn't be the one pulling the trigger.
the best buissnes is the war
alot of basterds make alot of money with wars
i really wish if they are that smart they could win money without some get hurts
but when i descovered the earning for military company, i understand why is that good money war is.
but war is a necesary balance to the world
since 1998 to 2008 wwii games
2008 to 20?? how long we have to kill muslims
who is the new world enemy after the muslims
Hatred can not be created in a day.
since decade ago U.S always make fun of other countries, their people.
through Propaganda, Provocative messages,,
mocking their ideology,, mocking their belief,,
label them as villains,, embarrass them in world convention.
that kind of hatred is enough,, to provoke Individual, Group, or even Nation,,
that's why incident like 9/11 happens,,
Another game where the middle easterns play the baddies, I wish more devs creates games like dishonored or bioshock etc.
This is the difference. Someone actually says it all. These guys go in with very little support to scout and find out what's happening. If you start to think about why you are there why is it happening and stuff like that you will get killed. The focus point of your action is what they change. You are there with a team and you are there with a purpose. You have to get in and get out while not losing any of your team-mates. He didn't say in one word that war is fun. It's not pro war propaganda at all. He didn't say come sign up be a cool guy like i am. He just said what they do.
I am not against fun in action games like COD or MOH but i would've liked to see a big developer with a lot of budget try to show war for what it really is instead of saying that hey you're a soldier, it's not in your best interest to ask why you're killing these people. That would've been more appealing but I guess many just want to feel like a badass and kill the motherf**ng foreigners(mostly middle eastern) who are against them.
I hope they interview an American DEVGRU operative (previously known as SEALS) Those guys are top notch
I love pro-war propaganda shit in my video games.... Jesus, already tired of this game and it hasn't even been released.
@Dudeinator Typical attitude for someone who has never done anything but push buttons on a controller. Its our job to make sure we vote in people who get the politics right, soldiers like this guy are heroes who dont get to parse pseudo intellectual minutiae. You need to talk to a soldier before you judge something you obviously dont understand.
@Dudeinator He said OPINION. There's a big difference between KNOWING why you're doing something coupled with the events that lead you to do it and having an OPINION about it. Does a soldier really care what geopolitical events lead him to be in another place doing his job? No. He may and should know full well what events were the catalyst and WHY he's there, however at the end of the day his opinion one way or the another is irrelevant. That's what he's getting at.
@Dudeinator He's talking about your mindset when you're in the position that he's been in. If you're sitting there having doubts about why you're there and whether or not you should be doing it then it's going to get people killed. That kind of thinking is a distraction you can't afford. When it's kill or be killed, you can only afford to think about the mission - achieving your objective while keeping you and your mates alive.
There are very few things that can compare in civilian life because the stakes aren't usually nearly as high as life and death.
No. He's right!
That is the point. A soldier does not "choose" to pull a trigger, but pulls it because he was ordered to. Discretion does not exist in the military - especially not in the special forces. They don't pick idiots for the role of special forces; they pick people who know what they need to do when they need to do it.
The SAS is not comprised of grunts with big muscles and fast runners, but rather doctors and other highly educated people.
@zoeyleft Funny enough, tattoos are the #1 thing cops use to identify criminals, so yea...pretty easy to find someone that way if you really wanted to, but this is an EA game he is probably just a paid actor anyway.
@Ladiesman17 no 9/11 happened because of terrorist......... kinda like you sound. if you wanna see propaganda, look at what you wrote, im mocking your idea's right now, and you embarrass yourself with post like this. so get a controller and put down the ied and have some fun,,,,, dueschbag
@c0kemusheenI see wikipedia failed you there. They weren't previously known as SEALs, they still are SEALs. All they did was get a team name change.
@wgerardi How is this propaganda?
Then why would you put yourself in a life and death situation when you don't even understand why you did it? Why would you put yourself in a position where the stakes are that high when you don't even understand the world history that has brought you to this place? Are the reasons that you joined the military in the first place still ring true despite all the evidence that points to the contrary?
Doods listen what I've said, I respect serviceman, but please don't mixed between serviceman and colonialist.
it's similar that you made generalization, statement that said,, "that all video games company is heroes of video games", the answer is NO,, video games got evil Company like EA and Activision and it works opposite way with good company like Steam or GOG,, and it works toward everything not just video games, but also military, or "servicemen".
Good servicemen don't use their acknowledge about killing people to direct video games that depict authenticity of war, getting paid by company, to fleshed-out how cool the war is.
I've seen servicemen that was killing people,, and he's like the saddest human being that I've ever seen, that's my anger come from,, good servicemen is not cool soldiers with tattoo all over his body with cool "ROFO" name,, that's kind of pathetic.
my whole point at 1st comment is,, "their anger is not without a reasons." either that's individual, group, or nations,, "their hate is not without reasons"
let me give you some example from video games:
PC Games hate toward Console Gamers, "is not without reasons",, even Animal getting angered, "is not without a reasons",, at E3,, months ago,, Tom McShea disgusted toward MoH: Warfighter is not without reasons,, North Korean, Iran, Palestine, Middle-east, Chinese, East European hate Western / U.S is not without a reasons,,, seeee??
let alone logical being like humans
they're not born suicidal,, they're not born with hate,,
9/11, terrorist group, palestine, jews, video games, military, etc whatever fuck that involved with those sensitive words.
weak people tend to hate, they hate because western people is ARROGANT,,
Nations all around the globe sees western as ARROGANT.
and games like Medal of Honor: Warfighter is "tiny" example of the arrogance of the Western people, how glorious their military technology, how weak other country, how evil other countries other than western. 60% population hate United States.
that's what I try to point that out, "and it's not without reasons."
you don't have any shame or what??
sorry for the absurd explanation,,
my point is U.S is the one that trigger everything,,
terrorism, global recession, provocation etc.
and man,, they are good at playing as the victim,,
the video is failed attempt to glorify wrong patriotism,,
he doesn't even know what they are doing out there,,
these soldiers is being used as tools,,
he's being used by Government to achieve middle-east authority and oil, in the name of terrorism,
and being used by Companies to achieve provocative marketing and profit,,
man,, these guys raped by Government and Companies.
and you guys think he was cool,, In my opinion he's an idiot and dumb as a sheep.
yeah it's propaganda,,, there's hidden messages that they want to be delivered to their Audiences,,
@MdoRandoms Makes war look fun and awesome.
Sorry i didnt realize you were "that guy", with your anti colonial talking points, iphone, and baggie camo shorts. You sound like a freshman in college before he realizes that his hippie professors never had to live under the murderous socialism they have taken on as their atheist religion. Frankfurt school critical theory is for elitist hypocrites who are so disappointed with their own lack of self worth that they must find it in the diminishing of society as a whole. In other words, straw men dont win wars and the flaws in freedom are infinitely more righteous than the alternative, tyrannical statist "utopias" whose defense cost one, not only their individualism, but the opportunity of thought to even consider the argument.
"Don't shit on these people's blood, sweat and tears." etc.
yeah right,, But by at the end of the day, western country profiting from oil, investment, and authority,, and other nations continue to suffer,, I consider that as modern-colonialization.
read a book, be smart, there's zillion books out there that you can read, that depict arrogance of westerners. and how they make other countries suffer.
the books is not only comes from other country but also from westerners themselves, and mostly comes from professors ,doctors, experts, etc.
Popular Western Culture, Military shooter that you worship today, it comes from economist, entertainment industry, Hollywood, MTV,Michael Bay, Company like EA, and Activision.
unless you think that killing someone without justification is okay then how can a soldier just kill random people if he doesn't know WHY
@Dudeinator Don't even speak about something you have no idea about. People don't go into the military, subject themselves to that kind of environment because they believe in the political agenda.
The military is an environment like no other. It's a place where everyday you can push your limits and know, when the shit gets tough you know that the guy next to you, no matter whether they are black, white, hates your guts or is your best mate, will dive in with you and risk their lives to save yours. That comradeship, mateship in Australian terms is what drives these people.
Being bipartisan is an important part of a deployed force. Nothing is ever black and white and when you are on the ground, you cannot question your orders as to whether they are right or wrong. They just follow the order. The moment you start to think or question, is the moment you loose yourself. If not physically, through a bullet, mortar or shell, you'll definitely to start to loose your mind.
Don't shit on these people's blood, sweat and tears.
yeah, that's what I thinking,,, video games should stay as video games, not as propaganda tools,, that's my concerned about EA, Close Dangers, and MoH games.
I don't save my shit to other website, because I'm talking about video games here, and how wrong it become.
and No, I don't hate westerners, earth is a flat-land, humans is equal,, westerners is equal with korean, arabs, chinese, etc. but westerners need to learn a lessons,, their arrogance that will destroy them in the future,, not other countries.
@Ladiesman17 So now you're hating on Westerners? You're starting to sound like a radical extremist, I can understand some of your argument but after all is said and done we are discussing a video game here, not politics or foreign policy or East Vs West...save that shit for a different website.
@halovsmetroid2 I take it that comment is directed towards Ladiesman17? Because I have only the utmost respect for any serviceman/woman and would never say otherwise.
@Ladiesman17 @DAMSOG @Danituga @DeathProofDelta hold on so you're saying the soldier is the bad guy for pulling the trigger? so you're saying being placed in the position of a soldier facing down the barrel of the gun you wouldnt fire back, because "killing is just not cool" you're an idiot.. If you hadn't realised soldiers under your definition of service men are civilian protectors, take the japense attempting to invade Australia if it were not for OUR soldiers willing to lay down their lives for us, Australia would be a very different country.. and no i dont agree with all policies followed through by many world leaders, and yes their is much to gain by attacking some countries... BUT you cannot deny the radicalization of some individuals in the global community that will kill an Australian or an American just because of nationality, you cannot deny religious zealots preaching to kill westerners.. so before you run your mouth look at your definition of hero or a service men because as far as the majority of people are concerned, a man or woman that is willing to lay down their life for faceless population is a hero and a service man
@Ladiesman17 @Danituga @DeathProofDelta Wow you went off on some sort of tangent there, I thought we were discussing the use of "real" soldiers to promote video games....not a UN security council meeting...Palestine? Arabs? WW3? Mate you have lost the plot big time. He is a soldier, just like the police and firefighters they have a job to do, nothing more.
wow, he will rip-off my face,, sure,, and you think that was cool,, sorry man,, I disagree,, it's nice to play video games, but I'm not gonna crosses the line by killing innocent people and hurts someone in a real life.
yeah, sure government are to blame for policies, but this guys, is the one that pull the trigger,, killing people is not cool, that's act of sin, why don't you kill people, and see how it feel.
there's a lot of serviceman,, the one that I respect is the one that protecting the lives of its citizens, do not mix serviceman with the one that colonize other Nations, and also please don't mix Serviceman with a Mercenary, Killer and Criminal.
I consider Palestine as the real patriot (I'm not even Arabs.) why?? because Palestine not gain anything by destroying the U.S and their Allies. but on the contrary, the U.S. and their Allies will get everything if they could destroy Palestine. (profit, authority, oil, investment, etc.)
this guy is being paid for killing people, and now directing video games to give people the authenticity of war, and people think that's awesome,, I mean WTF is wrong you guys!! is killing Arabs is cool, they humans too, they're not even starting the World War.!! WTF
@Ladiesman17 @Danituga @DeathProofDelta No worries mate, slip down to Australia and he will rip off your face so you can get a new one. What that soldier represents here in Australia is a way of life, freedom to live our lives the way we want to...otherwise most Aussies would be speaking Japanese about now. Sure governments are to blame for policies but this man is doing a job and without him and all servicemen/women around the world we wouldn't have the world we have today.
it is a game fool, it suppose to be fun and awesome.