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David Politis from Xi3 talks about the partnership with Valve and the company's Steam-focused PC.
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My cpu heatsink is bigger than this thing, magic doesn't exist, smaller is less power.
i rather spend $1000 on a GTX titan than spend $900 on this crap
As long as it does not force constant online drm, this could be good in 2-3 yrs (kinda pricey). For that price, I can build a smoking PC right now.
Haha, guy didnt know what the dedicated video memory is... no comment, and graphics with 384 shaders? Thats something like GT 640m, well... nothing special
Interesting! Does it come with an Operating System? :-)
specs will be poop to only have a tdp of 40w
ill stick with my computer...but i have to admit, this does look very interesting
So it uses around the same as 1 or 2 CPUs depending on the model.
So it is sort of the SteamBox, as it is the roumor (but not what we expected) it is the SteamBox but it can just be used as other things not just dedicated to Steam.
Will it have 3rd party compatibility. Making it easy to port games made for Xbox, PS3 and PC. One of the leading factors in the death of earlier consoles. What OS will it run?
I really like the idea that you can upgrade this thing. Still hoping high end steambox doesn't go overt 400$
If it's over $400 at launch, it won't attract any dedicated PC gamers, because I can simply plug my current laptop into my TV with the same results. And non-PC gamers will not be interested in an unproven piece of hardware that's more expensive than what they currently have.
thats funny it looks almost like the dang ouya!!!
Maybe they'll have a steam sale ha
$1000....THINK NOT. NO MONITOR, NO KEYBOARD, NO MOUSE, NO BUY
So... is it the steam box or not? That's the head you put on the article, where's the damn answer?
I can see myself buying this day 1. Never played PC games, think this would be a good start.
People seem to be missing the point a little. First this is not the steam box valve have said so this is a 3rd party who has come up with a very cleaver little PC that is made in a new stream lined manner. valve are working on there own and i am sure they have a few more manufacturers in the pipeline too (looking at you alienware). Its a very clever way of doing things in a versatile way and to everybody's needs, so will to come in a "range" of spec's, they have already said they have 3 types with the "piston" being aimed at gamers and i am sure they have another few generations of this thing in the pipeline to keep gamers happy. For god sake Razer have just released a tablet with an i7 and GT 650 in it, i would have laughed 2/3 years ago at somebody telling me that.
And for the PC heads who are saying its not for me its not aimed at you its aimed at you mate's who does not have a PC. With Steam, Choice in OP system Win/Lynx, Range of Upgradable Products, Made by a number of Manufacturers you will soon have loads more buddies popping up when this opens the flood gate of steam across the living rooms of the world as this becomes the "console" alternative!
Valve know that Millions of Gamers are about to make a choice in where they put their money, 500 on the new console or 600-700 for a alternative gaming device like PC/MicroPC/GamingTab.... Fanboys will stick to which ever faction they happen to choose but the problem with consoles is the generation freeze in tech. You have brought into a new system for 5-7-10 years (who knows it keeps getting longer) with no chance of system improvments. With PC's and this new concept of micro modular PCs we have the possibility of even cheaper games (PC pay by far the less for games because of websites like steam/GOG..). I already made that choice 12 months back after 10-12 years in console world away from PC for simple ease of use, now software does the donkey work so much better than the old days (i didn't even have to set the voltage on my motherboard on install oh the joy!). Over the few steam sales that i have used i have amassed a good size library of titles for a fraction of what i would have if it was the same titles on console (some of which i had already got on xbox). Just comparing graphics or gameplay on a major title like BF3 you suddenly see what your missing out on compared to the PC market and how much the tech is keeping things back.
All in all this is win win for Valve and news that will be making Sony & Microsoft both very very nervous.
Cannot wait for this I love Steam!
Ahh.. So this might be the real modular "console".
This is just as portable as any handheld device! Time to start saving up.
1 of the best thing about this is we don't have to go out & buy games they're already there for you waiting for you to buy
Nice concept, and if it can use a cloud service (meaning that it could play games on max possible settings running on servers somewhere) then it may be the future. But for now PC gamers know that 999 bucks buys more capable hardware, size and power usage arent priorities with PC gamers. And ebay allows PC gamers to sell old hardware and get money back and ultimately be green. And any PC these days will be useful for years to come one way or another for browsing, htpc, juke box, old pc games, old console emulation so the idea that people just throw away old PC hardware when they get new up to date stuff isnt strictly true.
I must admit, if you can use it and not use so much power, like he said, what 40 or 80 watts, and you can upgrade and not have to worry about them just throwing away the board, Ill pay the 1000, if it has the right games and it works, Ill get this instead of the PS4... Ill still have computer but Ill throw money at them.
i have to say this looks cool for 500 but not a 1000 it has about the same amount of processing cores as a 560ti ill stick with my 3770k and gtx680, just wondering what the next xbox and ps3 stats will be sure the cpu will be around there hope they have a least 4gigs of ram but hope for 8, and they'll have some 3 year old gpu tech for alot less than 1000 but you cant upgrade this and a consoles shelf life is much longer than a pc. but damn this thing is small and it dont us much power plenty of usb 3.0 slots. but who is this for people who dont have gaming rigs, well the reason they dont have one is the price so how are most people gonna afford 1000, and the people who play pc games will want more power, gpu seems to be lacking but it does look cool and ill have to see more detailed spec on it well thats my 2 cents
you have to be kidding yourselves! wait until you see WHAT games it offers and see the gameplay at work. I bet there will be at least TWO MODELS available: the ULTRA ( for hard core graphics, everything maxed out) and the CASUAL (medium graphics, just to get the game running). wait and see! the more noise they make about how great it is, the more disappointing it will be....thats how it is these days!
This is a very interesting form factor.
and there u have it again! UPGRADING UPGRADING UPGRADING!...this is why Consoles are far greater...yes the quality of graphics will be better achieved with PCS, but when it comes cost vrs graphics, COST will always come on top and graphics can be compromised a little. I hate PC for that matter , the COST of upgrading is absurd...you watch, you get one of these boxes and it will have its own custom made parts which will take the monopoly and you wont be able to do your own upgrading which would save you a little bit of money...GOOD LUCK to those whom get sucked in.
Fascinating. Too soon to make any judgement though...Will keep my eye on it.
can a 2 inch fan cool this when it works ?
Considering everyone is freaking out about the size of it and it's capabilities, remember that we have microprocessors small enough to fit underneath your retina and output a decent amount of processing power. The size isn't what should concern us, what concerns me is the amount of space the SSD has. If all my games are going to be stored on the Piston it'll need some decent space, unless it allows for a external hard drive to be connected and games be stored on it.
Dude! Nice USB hub!
Anyways, that looks pretty cool to me.
So now Valve has a Piston to run Steam.
Something like Xbox but it's a mini comp that's nothing like what I can build for way less than $999? I don't want xbox for $200 and defiantly not one for $999.
Lets put in the the punch bowl to see if it floats.
So basically its a mini pc with slotting new stuff in and out. Just designed so its easier than assembling the pc yourself. Well done Valve and Xi3. Going to be great year for games consoles, hopefully with new xbox, new PS, ouya, gamestick, Nvidia shield and this. Piston has the best name though. Imagine taking that to LAN's; so easy!!.
I think the most important thing that will make-it or break-it for most PC-gamers :
Can it play Crysis 3
if so, then it will be good cause most N/A users don't get steam only to play TF2, they need REAL games.
geez...my video card alone is bigger than that.
The guy on the left looks like voldemort...
Nice idea, too bad the guy from the company didn't present it so well.
And are they serious? Running Steam games off a 40W machine? What do they want us to play? Some cheap 2D stuff? Pass.
ok you can't go smaller than this piston. I'll give you that. Ok you can even take it to your friends place provided that you carry your keyboard mouse gamepad vs. and your friend has an extra display for you to connect to.
I however doubt that its packing enough power for high end gaming.
If it's affordable and offers a big library of games, I'm in.
Once again someone is trying to bridge the gap between console and PC gaming... here's the difference. Consoles are for the ppl that JUST want to game. They don't want to learn how things work, they don't want to have to fix things if they get broken.... So if a console gamer wants to break into PC gaming, the learning curve really is quite high, if you want to do it right. If you really want to be a proper PC gamer, you have to build your own rig (and will save about 1/2 the money you would give to Alienware or any other gaming pc maker in the process) and learn how to make your PC games run the best possible.
This thing is trying to bypass that, and you will sacrifice a lot of quality (and I'm guessing mod support too for games like Skyrim). Basically, this thing will bring console quality graphics to your pc games on the big screen... and you won't have to learn the ins and outs of PC gaming. For someone who's running over 150 mods on Skyrim, this thing isn't appealing at all, but it's not made for me so... :-P
Ehhh I'll stick to my power hog.
Considering that this is roughly the size of a modern video card, there's NO WAY its going to be very capable. Just the heat sync and fan needs to be the size of this whole thing to bring you modern pc quality gaming graphics.
I'd be excited about this if they weren't so concerned about it being small and "green." I don't care about that, I want it play Crysis 3 with ultra high maxed out setting at 1080p/60fps.
"I shall call him MINI-ME!"
$999!? That's not a mini-price, though! LOL
No dedicated VRAM? Only shared 8GB DDR3? That's not a gaming PC, unless you're gaming at 1280 x 720 res. with medium settings. :(