Is an Xbox One without Kinect a good idea? - The Lobby

With Microsofts announcement of a cheaper, Kinect-less Xbox One, Justin, Danny and Chris talk about the online reaction and its repercussions.

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binarylad
binarylad

I was hoping that Microsoft would kill off the Kinect. I'm not a Kinect fan. I feel like that evil camera box is judging me for not moving. I thought video games would make exercise fun. Woah, was I wrong. I just ended up looking like an uncoordinated, pale guy (going outside is SO overrated) flopping in front of the TV. Do they NEED to show that insulting footage of me dancing, Napoleon Dynamite style, to Canned Heat in my neon-orange bike shorts (they look good on ME)?

groowagon
groowagon

they should've done this from the get-go. i don't see any value in Kinect myself, so it only makes the X1 console seem overpriced to me. this is a good move.

Granaud
Granaud

Hey guys, i'll buy mine next month but i dont know if im gettin the kinect or not. Someone?! Or should i buy it separately?

Sandpark
Sandpark

The prospect of Kinect becoming something more this generation is gone cemented by the recent announcement. It probably would have played second fiddle to VR anyways.


What they should do is future proof it to setup a welcomed need for it should there be an xbox 3 and Kinect 3.0.


If what it does best is apps and UI. They should get it perfected this gen and prove how great it can be over traditional keyboard/controller UI navigation. So if they do a Kinect 3.0 it will be something users are clamoring for.


A VR device working with Kinect has potential for gaming possibly as well.


Or don't make a Kinect 3.0 and just allow Kinect 2.0 to work with xbox 3 after it gets a bigger installed base via the Xbox one.

steelmouth
steelmouth

Yes it is but ironically the idea of removing kinect was bad one

psuedospike
psuedospike

It is the best idea and it should have been that way since day 1...now there are ppl with a Kinect and it will go the same way as the 360 Kinect...nowhere.


"XBONE Refund Kinect!"

(Xbone Bing's Kinect)

bluecapsule24
bluecapsule24

Microsoft should be a politician with all this flip flopping

kovaras1984
kovaras1984

not a good idea, selling my xbone... they said they would never do this, now i own a £100 accessorie thats allready been abandoned. Really pissed off, Ms need to stop saying something then going back on thier word a few months later

gogin1
gogin1

I'm sooo torn! I'm buying an Xbone early next month and don't know which version to buy. I will probably just unplug Kinect since I don't want it watching me 24/7 and will never use it (I don't care about wonky voice commands and controlling my tv) but if something cool does come out for it and I don't have it I would be pissed. On the other hand that extra hundred could net me two used games for it or a game and a Gold sub.

dribblesbarbax
dribblesbarbax

Microsoft clearly saw that 3rd party developers had no interest in developing anything for Kinect at present or into the future. The Kinect is much like the WiiU in the sense that its up to its own company to prove to the consumer why we should purchase one. Nintendo are still somewhat confident in the WiiU but Microsoft are less so. Granted Nintendo are in a tougher position as the WiiU is the entire system so they pretty much have to back it till the end. Microsoft can just cut the Kinect off like a gangrenous appendix and fight on from there.

indy_sigur
indy_sigur

i bought x1 and ps4 both on launch. Never had xbox in the past. Went for X1 mainly because i was curious about Kinect and what apps/games it will bring. Now it is clear, Kinect is dead and until now there is nothing really to mention. Well, my wife uses X1 for her fitness stuff. Apparently it works well there. DOnt even mention Sports Rivals, that game is completely retarded. Plus, X1 and ps4 is connected to large Tv set and projector with screen 120inches. I can tell that X1 games look rubbish on big screen. PS4 is better but PC is excellent. So, after reading these news I can honestly say i have given up on X1 for good. Shame on MS they dont stick to their plan and change things overnight. Ok they want to sell some more, but what about those millions who bought it already in trust that Kinect will get developed? No respect to gamers at all. All they careis how to shift few more consoles and then move onto X2. 

Look forward to E3 as thats the last chance for MS to pull out rabbit from the hat and blow our minds away.. if not, bye bye MS.

Terrorraid
Terrorraid

yay for 399 we get a  less powerful, ugly ps4 wannabe!!!

it pisses me off when ppl go like " MS listened to the fans" no they didnt u dumbwit..they  just checked their profit margins slip.


i am glad that i jumped from a 360 to a ps4! and noway in hell id ever go back to crap from microsoft again!



daikkenaurora12
daikkenaurora12

Its a smart move especially if they are going to new territories and the kinect cant understand their commands anyways.


I wonder if MS will try and change the hardware a bit to help it be more 1080p friendly.

hardeddie
hardeddie

So what happens to developers supporting the Kinect? Is this the way Microsoft conduct business ethics? I can understand for early adopters being abandoned so soon but your own third party developers?

Microsoft try to learn the word Loyalty, it brings more business. Xbox brand is not one of your product that you can try to monopolise. Good luck in your dilema.

hardeddie
hardeddie

So what happens to developers supporting the Kinect? Is this the way Microsoft conduct business ethics? I can understand for early adopters being abandoned so soon but your own third party developers?

Microsoft try to learn the word Loyalty, it brings more business. Xbox brand is not one of your product that you can try to monopolise. Good luck in your dilema.

gajbutler
gajbutler

NOPE! Just a fuck you to customers who bought into it, all 5 million of them. Look at the Xbox One to PS4 gap, it is slowly turning around... why? Because people care about games and the Xbox One has them, the PS4 doesn't.


This just means Microsoft has nothing in the pipeline for Kinect when it comes to games like Halo or Gears of War actually innovating with it. It means they have no faith in Kinect and I have no faith in Microsoft...


Dark_Wr4ith
Dark_Wr4ith

But now how are Microsoft going to be able to spy on consumers in their living room?

Shelledfade1
Shelledfade1

Wait... so you can buy a xbox one without kinect, but its still 400 dollars? Kiss my ass. Lower the price another 100 dollars and then maybe it might be worth buying a kinectless xboner.

Timmygun
Timmygun

Well they had to do something, pretty bold move. But so was the TV integration and Kinect in the first place. 


Very curious about the pre and post mandatory Kinect sales!

ThoseSaints
ThoseSaints

Now they need to drop the AA batterie controller

techs3ek
techs3ek

i think Playstation Camera by now, has been alot more successful.

gothicvillas
gothicvillas

@Granaud i'd buy with kinect. You may not use it "all" the time but there will be loads of moments when you will be glad having it. After all, it is fun to use once in a while. I am getting Shape Up this Friday.. where kinect is a MUST to play it. However, I use my ps4 more often regardless what the press say about PSN etc. 

Andrex1212
Andrex1212

@Sandpark Uh... seriously...??? An Xbox 3? The Xbox One is the third Xbox... 

wallacom
wallacom

@daikkenaurora12  They cannot change the Hardware, as it is will be a different console. Both consoles will achive 1080p with 60fps as time progresses just look at games on PS3/x360 how they looked at the beginning of the console life and how games look today. 

DWalker131
DWalker131

@hardeddie  i don't think the devs will be affected, i think the gamers will be though,

this kinect i think will be like a hardware version of DLC, you can play the game i assume, but you'll miss out features like the mic (i heard dead rising 3 you can yell at the kinect to get the zombies attention), the camera for games similar to kinect sport on the 360 and if devs start intergrating kinect in more of their games, the gamers will eventually have to buy it seperately which i'm sure will cost more than the regular x1 + kinect bundle


a case of, your damned if you buy and your damned if you don't buy it

if you don't buy it coz you don't like it and eventually more games that require you to buy it then your screw

if you buy it the kinect bundle and hate it to bits, your screwed anyways coz you paid more

so its abit hard to decide on this one

packers904
packers904

@ThoseSaints  since those AA batteries last an unreal amount longer than the horrible built in battery of the ds4? if you own a xb1 you can get the charge and play pack for cheap and it last even longer than the AA batteries and comes with a really long charging cable, and when the cable is plugged in, the controller turns into a "wired" controller with faster response times. 


i would take the xb1 controller any given day

Evildantheman
Evildantheman

I actually prefer my xbox one controller batteries to my ps4! Last four times longer!

wallacom
wallacom

@ThoseSaints  No they don't the PS controller battery is s*** and X1 charge and play is s***, actually worse than s***. Cant even last 8 hours of gaming, while good rechargeable AA can hold for twice that and cost exactly the same

Terrorraid
Terrorraid

@shinjuki   i hope sony  bundles the  ps cam with  ps4s now for 399 to hurt MS even more lol that would be epic

swearwulf
swearwulf

@shinjuki  youre right. as sales decline, the more desperate ms will get, the cheaper the xbox one will get. I think even more important than trying to strike a deal with consumers, is trying to instill confidence in the consumer. they promised never to sever the kinect, now they do. unless youre a die hard xbox microsoft fan, youre not not gonna bite now. actually, theoretically, you could of scored the xbox one for 400  and it included titanfall for a final price of 450. i dont think a lot of people bought it though.

battlefront1943
battlefront1943

@DWalker131 @hardeddieUm...  you might want to read the tweets and articles about devs on Kinect games (there are many popping up on internet from reliable sources.  think i just read one on Kotaku).  They're pi@@ed.

AzatiS
AzatiS

@dani_i89 Yeah , because DDR3 / 7790 is more expensive than DDR5 and 7850. Stupid lems :)

Terrorraid
Terrorraid

@AzatiS @dani_i89   you sir deserve a  cookie! but these ms dumbwits wont know the diff between a HD7790 and a HD7850

swearwulf
swearwulf

Um....shikinky is it? You tell me, why did Ms cut out the Kinect? To listen to the out cries of the furious public? Im sure, im sure they didn't do it to turn a profit for crying out loud!! did they shitake? Look, I don't wanna be your enemy shequitta, let's just go about with our lives and forget this silly "console war". What do you say shicaca?? Friends? ;-)