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I'm sorry, all I heard was: Microsoft are super tired of coming up with excuses for why the PS4 outperforms the XBOne...


Their PR talk is not going to solve this one... Anyone who pays for next-gen, especially when paying MORE than a PS4, should expect 1080p @ 60fps.


At the moment, it's looking very bad for XBOne.

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@ECH71 Why should they EXPECT it? Most of the people getting a PS4 will never have even experienced 1080p and 60fps. My PC only manages 40fps and 720p on most games.

So I honestly don't get where the sudden rage of not having it is coming from. Like all of a sudden everyone is super clued up on what it is all about.

It is bullshit, the only thing these douchebags are complaining about is that 1080 is a bigger number than 720 and 60 is a bigger number than 30.

I mean if they had been complaining about it for the last six years I'd be inclined to agree but they haven't and if I hadn't been having a tonne of fun on Assassin's Creed IV on my Xbox 360 yesterday at 720p and 30fps I'd say it mattered.

But it just doesn't. Unless you compared the two directly either using screen shots and a suitable TV, or having two TVs right next to each other, which is not your typical living room. No one will even notice the difference! Except for what they just conjure up in their pathetic minds that is.

The trolling and irrational arguing got old about two weeks after the PS4 reveal. Now it is straight up pathetic. To the point where I'd honestly rather buy an Xbox One just so I didn't have the associate with the loser PS4 fans.

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@Dannystaples14 @ECH71 i'm sorry, but I just have to jump on this bandwagon here. The reason people should EXPECT 60FPS and 1080P is because it is becoming the norm, I'm sorry your pc only does 720p at 40FPS, but mine does pull 60FPS at (almost) 1080p( i run on 1680x1050 due to older monitor, but don't want two different resolutions when I use a controller on my tv with my pc). Microsoft are asking more money for the XB1(or the same amount if you factor in the cost for the kinect), and it is only reasonable that it should perform aswell as a PS4. It would be the same if Ferrari started putting slower cars in the formula 1, and then said: why are we talking about this, Formula one is about driver skills! Furthermore, 60FPS in 1080P is an advacment in gaming technology, and I don't know about you, but I see a slight difference between 720p and 1080p, and the difference with a big jump from 30FPS to 60FPS is quite easy to see.

To end this all, saying you wouldn't buy a ps4 so you don't have to associate with "loser" fans is just saying; Hey look at me, I'm not one of THOSE fanboys, I'm different!


But, of course, as you say, arguing about this is sad, because it has all been done before, so I will leave you with a thought of a potato!

Have a nice day!

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@superior91 @Dannystaples14 @ECH71 Not a very good analogy there buddy. F1 cars are directly built to compete and win. Sure, MS and Sony are in competition, but that isn't the sole purpose of building a console, it is to provide a system of entertainment. I'd love 60 FPS and 1080p all the time, but it isn't a huge difference. The games and the controller are the most valuable aspect of a game, and considering Ryse is the best looking game to date, Sony don't have too much of a leg to stand on. Killzone looks amazing as well, but it is boring as hell, and because shooters have been done to death, they don't have an excuse for releasing such a sub-mediocre game. Given that the Xbox is still new, 1080, 60fps will probably be the norm anyway.


MS cop way too much flak, and here's why. Security issues, graphical issues and terrible controls are all apart of PS history. Why didn't Sony cop any shit for having a more powerful console with games that ran WORSE than all of the other systems? Not like they had the exclusives to make up for it (except for the Last of Us). Having spent a great deal of time with Dualshock 3, I can say that the Xbox controller wipes the floor with it, hands down. It's much more ergonomic and feels like it was designed to be played by a set of hands, as opposed to a flimsy piece of plastic with buttons on it. It seems like the cool, 'safe' thing to do nowdays is to ignorantly hate on MS. Xbox got it right on day one, whilst Dualshock always felt terrible. There was no excuse to continue the exact same controller from PS1 to PS2 (let alone to PS3). Also, remember the online hacking issue?? Hmm....People used to bitch and complain about Xbox live costing 50 bucks a year to use. Now, PS online also costs money! No one seems to be complaining though.


I've played BF4 on both new consoles, and I did not see a difference, both were fun, and congrats to Sony for FINALLY changing their controller, which is much better, though still not as good as what Xbox offer. If you're going to bitch about power, get a PC. Both consoles are powerful, though Xbox has the edge with it's controller and exclusives...which is what a console is all about. Considering how good the games look now, they will only get better looking. And considering Xbox has Halo, Titanfall and Gears, the battle is well and truly over. Can't speak for the long term future, though I'd still wager that Xbox will come out on top.


Stupid PS fanboys should just shut up and continue to play their slightly prettier, dull games .

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@neroist @superior91 I'd rather take a game that looked like a PS1 game, and had a great story, and great gameplay and great AI, than a game that looks pretty.

They can shove their graphics and frames per second. As long as the games are fun, that is the platform I will play.

I think people's obsession with graphics is the reason we have hardly seen any games with a decent story and which is super fun to play for the last six years. Many games have one aspect that is done well. Most of them fail in more ways than they excel.

I mean take Bioshock Infinite. The story is awesome, the atmosphere is awesome. The game flows and weaves in an intricate way. Yet the combat was largely underwhelming. Sure flying around on the skylines was epic, but that only lasts so long really. Great in many ways, poor in others.

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@superior91@ECH71 Hmm technically your metaphor doesn't work. If you compare this to F1, what PS4 are doing are what Ferrari did ages ago. Make the best car they can and destroy everyone else regardless of their skill. In this metaphor skill is the games running on it. Schumacher or however you spell his name won so many times in a row because Ferrari are great at making cars. As soon as they limited the car engine sizes and variable spoilers the other drivers suddenly had an equal playing field. And since Schumacher came back out of retirement he hasn't won all that many races.

And the reason that metaphor doesn't work is because even if the power of the Xbox One is less than the PS4, the games are still tops which means if you ignore exclusives the power in the PS4 will be largely redundant since they will make all exclusives for the lower power system and the port it onto PS4. The exclusives on PS4 will no doubt look very nice. But 90% of all games are multi platform. No developer will ever make a game on Xbox One and then spend time and hence money which they don't have making the graphics better on PS4. It just won't happen. Why do you think it often takes longer for games to come out on PC? Because it takes them time to increase the graphics for the platform. And that is why many games never reach PC at all. GTA V come out on PC yet? No didn't think so.

Why do you think PC gaming is so shit? They have tonnes of power and many games but a lot of those games are shitty RTS, and indie titles and Early Access. I don't give a shit how much power the system has it is all about the games. If power was so important PC would be the ONLY system that people would play but it just isn't.

I see a slight difference between 720 and 1080 as well but that is all it is, SLIGHT. Not enough of a difference to justify buying a PS4 with its shitty network and stupid fanboys.

60fps is nice and smooth sure. I'll take 60fps over 1080p, but again I was having tonnes of fun in Assassin's Creed IV yesterday at 30fps and I can't see how having it at 60fps would have greatly enhanced that fun.

PS4 exclusives are largely shit so far from what I can see. Killzone, looks nice but is boring as hell. Infamous, just some arrogant prick in a beanie. The rest of the stuff we have barely seen anything of.

At least Quantum Break looks different, and looks like it is trying something new. Ignoring the TV stuff that is. That is just lame.

Just goes to show what mentality you PC gamers really have doesn't it? It is all about the power. To hell with games this month I'm saving up for a new GPU. Fucking losers. You know it is bad when you will actually ridicule people on the same platform simply for their system specs like I see on Steam a lot.

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@superior91 I'm a PC gamer with a very nice rig. But to get 1080 at 60 FPS on the $90 Jaguar APU from AMD that both consoles use. They will have to drop other things like AA, lighting effects, shadows, etc... There are a lot of corners to cut to get that new magic number that will actually hurt the game in other areas.

If you want 1080 at 60 FPS with effects buy a nice PC. If you bought a console with a $90 APU (GPU and CPU together for $90). Don't except 1080 at 60 FPS without loses out on other things.

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Sticking to my PS3 to get all the good games, that I didn't bother getting earlier :O

Shaemfuhl dispway Microsoft!

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Is Jess deliberate refraining from expressing opinions when it comes to the console "war"? I miss her jokes :(...

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@loon86 maybe just bored of it like the rest of us.

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Good stuff

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The sooner that Microsoft and EA accept the fact that the majority of gamers are educated and this thing called the internet will be quick to call Bullsh!t on the stunts they pull. The sooner the flaming articles will stop. Of course 30 fps versus 60 fps makes a difference. There have been several videos demonstrating the difference. In my opinion, I believe it is very disrespectful to the gaming community when major publishers and hardware distributors attempt to blindfold the gaming community by making statements such as "anything over 30 FPS is gravy." I am not trying to promote the PS4, but if someone puts 500 dollars down on a gaming platform or 60 dollars on a game. We should expect a certain level of quality equal or greater than the competition. I honestly believe that the PS4 and Xbox One should have been released in late 2014. Clearly both console manufactures were not ready to release there product and the only reason they did was from pressure from the trolls whining. Plus the gaming websites that feed off of the whiners and promote negative behavior. #Feedbackula

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@adam0598 awesome post, everything spot on mate

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@hikaruai @adam0598 I thought Feedbackula was about critisizing negative behaviour?

Potato!

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@superior91 @hikaruai @adam0598 Patato, see what i did there ;)

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For sure it's a great deal, trading a old device without games for one with a bright future, like i said it before, Microsoft it's being generous again.

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@Diegoctba .... Did you live under a rock with your PS3? What do you mean old device with no games?

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@Diegoctba Really? It's essentially: exchange your PS3 for a Kinect :) and pay for the rest.

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@Diegoctba What great exclusives did the xbox 360 have in 2013....? oh, right. ZERO

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The moment you find out what Microsoft is doing with all those PS3's, Jess, you should let us know. Or I could google it. :/

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@Afinati Probably slap a XB1 case on it and sell it for $499 with a kinect:)

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Awesome, glad to see that Eve story come up because it really was the coolest thing that happened this week. Keep up the great work.

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I'm not sure what the value proposition is for the PS3 trade in deal. There are so few games for the XBox One at this point that it makes no sense to trade in an older console from any manufacture.

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Thank you, Jess!

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Big brown eyes and an Aussie accent, nice way to start my weekend.

I really have to learn not to drink coffee while (whilst?) watching GSN. Almost snorted it again with your Eve comment.

I have nothing against the game at all and keep thinking about playing it but it always loses out to the other "shiny-s" in my collection.

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@TimberWolf_CLT You sad man you.

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@homelessgamer At least I'm not homeless...

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Excitement in EVE online. Did not see that coming.

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EVE story, I somehow missed that or forgot about it. It does sound pretty epic, and it's the kind of cool thing that happens in big online communities.

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I ditch my PS3 and get 100$ from M$ and THEN i buy PS4 :D

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@Findy37564 Keep your PS3 friend. PSN+ still offers free games for the whole Playstation ecosystem (PS3, Vita, PS4). It's well worth it to keep your PS3 for that alone.

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@RicanV @Findy37564 Stop being so diplomatic, its getting old.

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@homelessgamer @RicanV @Findy37564 Stop being homeless, it's getting old

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@RicanV @Findy37564 i will enjoy the PSN+ in my PS4 :D

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@Zombie97 @Findy37564 @RicanV oh crap then i guess that plan is out
dont need no xbone in my room

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@Findy37564 @RicanV Keep your PS3. The $100 you get from trading it in can only be used as a discount for the Xbox One, as far as I know.

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Nicely done, Jess. The trade-in is not that appealing at all. You're essentially turning over your whole library and collection for $100.00.

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@RicanV Not necessarily. If I had one the original PS3s--the very high power consuming PS3's--I would trade in that PS3 for an Xbone and then buy one of the newer slim model PS3 too.


Just a thought.

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to figure out how their systems have internal power supplies

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Does anybody know what Microsoft is going to do with those PS3s? I'm genuinely curious about this.

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@Zombie97 my guess is M$ will put a photo of PS3 and say something like "many ppl trade PS3 for Xbone" or something in that line..
because u know M$ only can do stuff like that

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@Findy37564 @Zombie97 Thats what gamespot breaking news said earlier.

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@Findy37564 @Zombie97 I hate to say it, but I wouldn't be surprised by it...

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@Zombie97 Figure out why it was so awesome then attempt to put that awesomeness in the Shitbox1.

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@2k3_svt @Zombie97 Let's not start an argument here. Although I like Sony more than Microsoft and the PS4 looks more appealing to me, I still believe that both consoles can coexist, there is no need to hate on one or the other, however, I agree that Microsoft has been doing some questionable stuff lately.

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