GameCrib: TSM Snapdragon - Episode 6 Shake Up

Follow TSM Snapdragon as they go to week 6 of LCS, PAX East Boston and make some changes around the house.

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Why can't they have a roster deeper than 5 players? Bench the man, sure. He needs disciplining, I agree. But why "off the team" and out of the house? Can't he be dropped to the 'B' team for a while until he's payed his dues? Aren't there alternatives? Good luck, though, Chaox. Grow and learn from this.

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TOTES EMOSH!

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Edited By Ragiron

What most of you seem to forget is that TSM are not only the 5 people who take part in professional tournaments. TSM is way more than this, the subs for example are TSM, too. And Reginald is as responsible for them as he is for the pro players, he's the manager of the team (not only 5 pros) and I think it wasn't an easy decision to be made.

I am prety sure Chaox will follow his path. All the best to you!

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this all seems like a personal issue for why Regi kicked him...

i think a sub would have been best for the team...

as a leader, you have to look at the entire team & whether this will affect them & whether they could end up holding grudges over you for making decisions that are surrounded around not just their issue with the performance but also personal issues..

to me, it seemed like performance issues with Chaox all centered around him trying to alienate himself from the group on purpose...when you live with someone & are around someone that you see daily & have to be around, you end up needing space from them...

usually when you work & have a boss that you dont get along with, you go home & have a place separate from work, to relax, but in this setting he doesnt have that...

Regi should have made an effort to not feel the need to fight with this guy so much & work on their issues together, while he was being subbed...

now he will have to deal with backlash from the community & might face resentment from his teammates for not making an effort on his part to work well with others...which could cause more problems due to their group not being use to the new changes of loosing a member that has been with them for a long time...

you can have performance issues, but usually there is a personal reason behind it...

they are all young, & sometimes when you reach 21, it also pushes you to find other outlets, but to me, it seems that he was distancing himself for a good reason..

if your sleeping alot, its mainly due to being unhappy...

their environment seems tense with Regi, no room for talking openly & for constructive dialog in working cohesively...

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@HailHellfire word.

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Edited By Meerpo

i havent cried but the end with dyrus was so emotional that i almost cried. so sad that chaox isnt part of tsm anymore every other team i dont give a shit if they change theire roster, but this made me sad . good luck chaox

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Edited By seariousli

Regi is so messed up, end of story

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Edited By bjornleifrdagr

@seariousli He did what needed to be done. It wasn't just him. Oddone, Dyrus, and Xpecial all agreed that turtle was better for the team and it was mentioned by chaox, not in this video, that the team manager also decided it was best. Reginald is getting all of the blame when honestly he's the bravest one for having to deal with nobodies criticizing him for being a good leader.

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@bjornleifrdagr @seariousli he didnt even look chaox in the eyes.

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@cobia9 @bjornleifrdagr @seariousli Does that matter? No.

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Edited By AngusSama

@seariousli Not at all. He has a business to run and Choax wasn't taking it seriously so he made a choice. That's what you have to do sometimes.

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Edited By xDmgTakuya

daaaaaaaaaaaaaamn i cried dude

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damn dyrus and chaox got me crying like a baby all i can say is i will miss chaox on TSM but he will be back i hope : )

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damn dyrus and chaox make me cry like a lil baby just damn

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Edited By KiNGYashii

Man that last part with Dyrus made me Tear up a bit :(

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Edited By Zane404

This video was so emotion. Best of luck to Chaox. Though this kinda makes me wonder if they're going to change the intro. Still sad about Chaox leaving though.

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good guy dyrus.

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chaox is cool and i like him but he wasn't really taking a lot of responsibility for what he did. and then trying to make xpecial for example feel bad is just lame.

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Edited By xavor01

Regi just kick Chaox for Wildturtle because he wants someone on the team that's uglier than him hahahahaha, kidding! J/P, calm down fanboys.

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@xavor01 lol, no Regi is still the ugliest. Besides, chicks dig a smile and Turtle has one big constant smile going on.

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I don't like what he said to xpecial

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Its not working for me D:

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@DukeBaird the 19000+ people watching this video has caused it to crash lolol jk

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@Kennheiser aaaaand now im crying. crap

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@DukeBaird @Kennheiser Didn't think I'd get so emotional over a group of people I follow because they play a game I like


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Edited By AngusSama

When it comes down to it I think Dyrus justified it the best. Chaox is good, yes. He could get better, sure. Turtle is already there though, he has better mechanics, a more diverse champion pool, and a better grasp on the rest of the roles. You can't just spam MF games over and over and do 'meh', that's not professional play.

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My opinion: Chaox being kicked off the team is more of a personal reason for reginald... why else would he be kicked out of the house and off of tsm.. he could have just benched him as a sub.. Dyrus's scene, extremely touching. GL to you Chaox! wish u the best

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@DelenaT yeah, that's what I'm not getting… I have an incomplete understanding of how the pro teams function, but I thought for sure there would be discipline alternatives to "off the team and out the house"… :(

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@DelenaT you're missing the point. It's not just that Chaox was under preforming. It was personal because chaox was challenging Reginald as a team captain. It's like telling your boss he's not doing a good enough job and you're taking over. No, you're gonna get fired. Secondly, Chaox cannot be a sub for that very same reason. There would be conflicting interests whenever he would sub and it would be better to just have a free lance sub for them. Hell it's been proven by getting their first sweep. Even if they kept him as a sub he doesn't need to be in the house to fulfill that role.

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@DelenaT I agree, it shows its personal when they kick you out of the house in one day after telling you youre kicked. He could have EASILY been a sub.

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@KTKhujo @DelenaT Yeah I'm pretty sure there are personal problems between Regi and Chaox, but it's not like there weren't valid reasons behind it also that even the other members state.

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Edited By hman9x

@KTKhujo @DelenaT LOL when you are fired from a job, do you stay there or you pack your stuff and leave?

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Lots of respect for Dyrus showing how he felt. too much respect. As for Reginald, i understand what he did and why he did it and he's completely right. I think chaox is a great guy but it's not reginald's job to babysit "HIS" team and make exceptions for his members. It's his job to man up and do what's best for the team. He considered everybody and asked everybody on the team multiple times how they felt about it and the majority vote was for wildturtle and i agree. Regi deserves respect for having to make these tough decisions and the only reason anybody would berate him is just because they hate to see Chaox leave and they feel they have to blame somebody. He made the tough decisions, made the right call, and whether or not people will admit it, it's what is best. Best of luck to Chaox, congratz to the turtle, good luck to TSM as a whole, and mad respect for Dyrus.

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I can't believe I actually teared up over game crib....Dyrus man what a bro

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00:26 what is leena dressing? @@

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i cried when dyrus cried


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@MooseVenom you are not the only one mate DYRUS we all love you!

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@lufsen112 @MooseVenom yea thanks guys i wish chaox wouldnt have been kicked


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Did anyone even listen to what they said in this episode and what Xpecial and Dan have said. Chaox behavior has been like that for a long time, He have got several of chances. Chaox isn't good for the team anymore, in both communication and his attidute might lose sponsors etcetc. And for what i think this is exactly what the team needs, they need Turtles aggresive playstyle to get TSM out from the slump that have been going on for some months. I am a big TSM fan and i cry like a litte girl when i watch this but i think this is the best for the team.

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Edited By KTKhujo

@spankthafudge I dont think you have to worry about losing sponsors when you have this many fans. What they do have to worry about is whether this tarnishes the TSM name, which it does. I think kicking Chaox off is just as bad for sponsors (if not worse) than Chaox's attitude. If the majority of their fan base thinks they made a bad decision, that says something. That means Chaox brings a lot to the table as far as fans which is almost all a sponsor cares about.

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@KTKhujo I don't think your opinion is a "majority" opinion. Chaox was under-performed for a while plus there was a big tension between Reginald and Chaox.

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@KTKhujo You might be right but the ''majority'' that you are talking about are mostly just kids that don't really think for themselves and just jumps on the ''REGI SUCKS OMG'' wagon.

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@spankthafudge @KTKhujo "mostly just kids that dont really think for themselves" = Even better for the sponsors...

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Xpecial, you better have gotten that girl's number damnit.

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am i the only one who laughed when Dyrus cried? only because i was expecting it to be heart breaking and it just.. wasn't. i guess i should be used to people blowing things out of proportion in the comments

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@goddesu
I fear you are one of the few ppl, who are emotinal stunted. Hope that you'll be able to understand, why things like emotions and friendship isn't anything to laugh about. I felt really sad about them.. if its the right decision for the team to kick him.. idk.. we'll see in future. But losing a friend.. a roommate.. or whatever is sad. No doubt. But I also felt happy, cuz I saw that there are ppl left in the internet community, who aren't emotinal crippled...

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@goddesu Yea, you probably were and you're probably the most emotionally shallow person here also.

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@goddesu #troll you cried its k...your in a safe place

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Edited By colt_a

@goddesu Real emotion isn't like the movies, it doesn't have mood setting music in the background and a build up. Life happens, feelings happen.

Its just real. It doesn't have to be 'heartbreaking'.

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