Feedbackula - Xbone Flip-Flop Fracas!
Microsoft has changed its mind on how the Xbox One will operate, but is it enough to change our users' minds on the console itself? Johnny has the answers.
by Johnny Chiodini on
"...I like to bathe in tomato sauce and pretend I'm a meatball"
By far the best comment - laughed my ass off.
egad! immortalized on feedbackula.
although why you would not have used my comment on the ironic nature of the internet being outraged over being required to use the internet then proceeding to go on the internet to make their anger over required internet heard i will never know.
Personally I'm disappointed with Microsoft's decision to get rid of all their new features. I would say the only one I had a serious problem with is the 24 hour check-in, but I think people would have gotten used to it. Not to mention that even though some of their "restrictions" were odd or unwanted there were also some pretty cool features too (sharing games with up to 10 friends, xbox live for households, etc). Even if all the features good or bad were unwanted they should have moved forward in my opinion. Because Microsoft dropped those features we now have to consoles that are pretty close to being exactly the same, there is really no HUGE difference between the Xbox One and the PS4 and that is what's disappointing for me. Also I feel that all you PS4/Sony hardcore fan boys/girls have absolutely no opinion, not because I don't want to hear it, but even if 90% of the planet thought Xbox One was better you'd still say it's crap... Everything has it's flaws and people make mistakes, but it's how we deal with it that's important and personally I think that fans are wrong on this one. NOTE: THIS IS MY PERSONAL OPINION SO DON'T FLIP OUT OR ANYTHING! Thanks.
What M$ fans don´t get, is that the "always online" and the new "once at the first time" are no options, they´re restriction, and that´s what it fuck us all
6:40 I wan't to see Johnny eat his hat after, he finds out that those E3 kits that Phil Spencer felt so good about were running nVidia + Intel and PS4 out of the box has 2x more power
looking at how gamers behave/react on the interwebs makes me think that in a few generations we'll be wonderfully retarded.
It never ceases to amaze me how upset people get over an entertainment device. I pre-ordered the Xbox One the day after E3. None of the "restrictions" applied to me. I'm still happy with my purchase. I have friends who pre-ordered the PS4. Do I hate them and think their stupid? No. Maybe they like the games and features Sony showed off. In the end, who really cares THAT much to insult someone. No matter what you choose to play your games on, whether it be your cell phone, Xbox One, PS4, PC, it doesn't matter. As long as you like games, you're a gamer. Your part of a group of people who share a hobby that is unlike any other and its quickly outpacing movies in terms of popularity. So start embracing the culture and love ALL systems and games. Its what brings us together, people....
It's interesting that some people think the next gen is going to be just like the PS3 vs. 360 with very little if any differences between multiplat games. While this will no doubt be true at launch and early on in the life cycle of both consoles, I don't expect this to hold true in the long run.
Why? There is at most a 10%
theoretical difference between current gen
hardware, which is further reduced in real world application due to the
PS3's difficult API/SDK. Most coders I know put the real world
advantage at somewhere around 3-5% for the PS3, depending on what it is
being called to do. Ultimately, the differences are negligible, and in
many cases multiplats ended up being better on the 360 due to the fact
it is so much easier to code for and wring out that last little bit of
However, the PS4 has a very real 50% GPU shader + 20% memory bandwidth advantage. Unlike with the current gen, both next gen systems use the exact same x86 architecture and their API's/SDKs are nearly identical as well. In other words, the differences we see in the next gen will be more noticeable than with the current gen. A more accurate analogy would be comparing the original Xbox to the PS2. Every multiplat game during that gen looked much better on the Xbox. The next gen is going to be similar after devs have a couple years getting used to coding on both consoles. By year 2 we will see the PS4 rendering scenes on 1st party exclusives that the One simply can't duplicate.
The only question is how long it will take for multiplats to start showing differences as well. The answer to that question may be just how much $$$ MS is willing to spend to make sure devs code down-spec to the One in order to minimize the very real differences in power between the 2 consoles. Barring that, we will see differences...guaranteed. When it came to the 360/PS3, devs didn't purposefully code down to the 360...it was simply that the PS3 is so much more complicated to code for. That isn't going to be a problem on the PS4.With all that said, graphics certainly aren't everything. And there are no doubt going to be some great exclusives on both consoles. I'm far more concerned about the small, *non-replaceable* hard-drive in the One and the required Kinect 2.0 which artificially bumps the buy price above where it should be given it's lower-end specs. Microsoft made a calculated gamble in reducing system specs because they want everyone to have a Kinect but knew they couldn't launch at the $600 price point that killed PS3 launch sales. We shall see if the gamble pays off.
No they don't ... they will sell plenty and so will Sony ... and I still don't care as well. By the way, clever of you to use a $ for the "S". Now I now I really don't care if that's as creative as you can get. $$$$$$$ONY ... yes it really works lol.
I am well aware they didn't do it for the gamers as I am well aware Sony doesn't do it for the gamers as well. If the situation were reversed you can bet your sweet ass Sony would've done exactly the same thing. It's called business. Check Sony's history if you really think they are in it for the gamer.
Amazon hasn’t said exactly how many pre-orders have been processed so far. However, the PS4 and Xbox One currently occupy two of the top three spots on the best-sellers list for video games. The Xbox One took No. 1 and the PS4 took No. 3 (The Last of Us for the PS3 is in the No. 2 spot.)
Am I the only one who finds the guy who hosts this, the people who read the comments, and just the comments in general, to be painfully annoying? I've tried watching a few episodes of this, and I just don't get it.
In my opinion games are what really matter when it comes to platforms and gaming consoles. Who ever has the largest amount of exclusive great games is what my platform of choice.
I think that M$ gets it. But I think like Sony did last console generation, they got too arrogant. The gamers and consumers have spoken but not loud enough. (If M$ were any where near earth they would drop that Kinect device requirement and drop $100 to directly compete with the PS4-But NOOOOO!) there going to keep there price point, and end up like PS3 did its first two years
Well I live in the us and can afford an Xbox one, but guess what? I'm not going to spend $500 on a device that a company 6 years ago put out a defective product, knew about it, and let it going on for 3years. ( I don't trust M$ when it comes to consoles)
So reading through this thread i realise a lot of people live in a 3rd world country or are afraid of the internet! How the hell can someone in the 21st century not have access to the internet!
Registering each new game online is still an issue for me. I misunderstood and thought it was just one initial setup for the XONE. My biggest concern was how long they would support XONE games and with this one time registration that is still an issue. At this point it will get no new gen console, but I have over a year for one of them to impress me.
Someone should tell Sony that kids and elderly play games too. Forum trolls and hardcore gamers are not the only consumers out there. PS(3+1) did not got my children's attention, no innovations at all and that lending and re-selling talk suits for boring, short or bad games. If open DRM was a strong trump card, Wii U should have won.
Microsoft has said to the hardcore gamers that have backed the 360 for years to go "F" yourselfs because we what to be your entertainment console not your gaming console. We want you to be home and log in every hour so we can monitor you and what your are doing with our console..... PS4 is saying we want more gamers with no restrictions since day one and microsoft is scrambling to back pedal its way out... TOO LATE!! the damage is done and you have lost a vast majority of your gamers to the new PS4!!
they still dont get it FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!! "only have to be online once with every new game". WTF!!!!
Lets say you DONT have internet at all and you want to play your new game nou. FUCK YOU sais MICROSOFT. you will not play
Well, it's official: MS screwed the pooch but good in how they handled the One's pre-launch. It's good they reversed (most of) the disastrous DRM restrictions, which should help improve their launch sales numbers to something north of "embarrassing".
But, they still have a few other PR problems to overcome:
the $100 higher price-point (due to mandatory Kinect 2.0), not allowing
gamers to replace the small-ish internal hard-drive on the One, the
notably inferior hardware (50% lower GPU shader/20% lower memory
bandwidth with same API/SDK = long term problems), and still requiring an online "verification check" for each new game you buy (which still eliminates many potential buyers who don't have nor want to hook up their console to the 'net).
MS has some challenging days ahead with the One. In the end it will boil down to games, but it's never good to shoot oneself in the foot - several times - before the race has even begun.
I do agree "with presales projection comment", because this "feedback" was widely available years ago.
If Microsoft really wanted to turn its image around they could have just dropped the 24 hour check in nonsense and kept all the other benefits of the Xbox One as originally promised (no disc necessary, family sharing, etc). My main issue with their original announcement (besides the 24 hour checkin) was that they really didn't fully explain how family sharing and game resale would work beyond some vague statements.
I know you would have been allowed 10 "family members" to share with. Are you allowed to kick out members and invite others in? If so, is there some kind of 30 day waiting period? I'm assuming only one person could play one copy of a particular game at any time, but could I boot them out if I wanted to play? Can licenses be transferred freely between family members so that person could resell it after the fact? It's just too complicated. And don't get me started on used game sales.
BTW, it seems that MS will force you to attach to the internet to verify each new game you buy, even without the 24 hour checkin. Mailing new games to military service members overseas is still complicated.