Feedbackula - Black Ops 2 and Skyrim
This week, Johnny picks your finest (and foulest) comments concerning Black Ops 2 and Skyrim DLC.
to be honest I think skyrim is still one of the best games ever made
just because it is one of the only games that has a great storyline and btw if you don't like to buy the dlc's just get it on pc get some mods and of you go (there are actually mods that are nearly as big as dlc's and they are completely free )
I find it funny how clueless some console gamers are these days. Some of you really think that Skyrim is the best PC game that we play? There are actually a lot more. Hard to believe huh? I am a console gamer also. By the way, PC games are not dead!
Mass effect 3 prothean ally
THAT IS NOT GAMEPLAY ENHANCEMENT it is unfinished game because the files were already on the disc
Reading comments aloud has really shown how far down the drain the grammar standard has really become LOL
If the DLC is worth it and at an affordable price i say get it.
If you love the game and want more and it's affordably priced then get it.
The problem with DLC is it's usually just crap that's not worth it.
But it's evil when they add DLC for something already on the disc. But your a harcore fan of whatever the game is so they know you will pay for it and you know what? They're right because you do. They are taking advantage and that's not cool. But it happens anyway.
The problem is not all of us have parents willing to piss away they're cash at our whim or a job.
The only thing I can do right now is dislike all DLC mappack trailersand write shit comments for the shits DLCDLC has turned into DLS(Downloadanle SHIT)
Wow this is just unprofessional on the part of game companies. So unprofessional in fact, i don't think I can ever buy dlc again. Wait what... DLC for what game just came out... Oh Halo OKAY!
Eh I remember those times on COD4 and WaW when all the DLC was free with the updates. I miss COD with 60 players, so much more fun XD
Who cares, Blops 2 is gonna be fucking awesome! No matter how high the price on the DLC's or anything else is I'm gonna sell my left nut if I have to to get it. But not my right one..cause that would be weird.
I never buy season passes for the one simple reason of you won't know what you are buying until it is too late, if developers told you exactly what it was you'd be buying then maybe i would, but there is a chance you could spend £40 on a season pass to get the COD equivalent of Horse Armor for Oblivion :L
Extra content has been made before in the form of expansion packs, ie physical copies. The only difference now is that DLC is downloaded, hence the name. It's a much bigger issue too because there are way more companies buying into the concept of DLC than expansion packs. It doesn't help that a lot of the DLC is garbage too. Of course it doesn't help that a lot of the companies that people like to hate are the ones releasing the most DLC
I'm not sure why we continue to talk about this, it has been discussed ad nauseam and beyond. DLC is good when it is done correctly. Correctly: A) Content that was actually made after the final game product was finished, B) Content that did not make it into the game because the devs MADE SO MUCH DAMN CONTENT, or C) DLC that is actually better than the game itself, as is the case with all New Vegas DLC.
Incorrectly: A) Shit that was part of the game and was intentionally released on day 1, for money. B) Shit that was part of the game and is actually on the game disc but then you had to pay for it - not necessarily always the same as A. C) Shit that is severely over-priced like all CoD maps and BF3 maps; weapon recolors for Gears of War; etc.
DLC came about because of an obvious shift in marketing and the very way we access and play games since 2000, namely: the internet. However, even in the early days, there were rare examples of extra content being free - like Battle of Britain for Battlefield 1942. DICE even changed most of the weapons in the game to actually match their faction - for example, no more americans running around with the Garand on Wake Island when the garrison of Wake Island never had Garands.
What used to be called post-release work/patching in the early 2000s and 90s is now just DLC and publishers charge exorbitant prices for it. 15 dollars for 2 maps? Are you shitting me? Yea, you need to pay those workers for working, which you could more than do with your sales profit from the game itself. Yes, you have some investors to worry about.
DLC is a good thing that publishers have abused and abused and utterly ruined over the years,. I have no qualms paying for extra content that is actually extra, but stuff that was made as part of the game in the first place is just unacceptable. Going back to BF3 - if you didn't get Premium, you're fucked. You have to pay an extra 60 dollars on top of the 60 you paid in the first place, to get premium and the DLCs - you literally can't buy the DLC separately and you can't upgrade. CoD and BF3 are the most recent and best examples of what a shitty industry it has become.
If people are stupid enough to buy DLC for 50$, let them. The only way to stop shovel DLC is to stop buying them. If people keep buying it, Activision is gonna ask more and more of your dimes.
@solace427 If all internet comments had these voices, I'd get far less frustrated reading some of them :)
Also, watch the video again. There was a comment from Solace427 praising the season pass, Then on the next segment, Solace427 was there again saying that if things go this way, gaming won't be worth it anymore.
Mistake during video editing, or does Solace427 have split personalities? :D
Answer from Gamespot or Solace427, please! :D
Wasn't sure where this feedbackula thing was going but i'm happy to say it's turning out to be quite an amusing end to the week!
Especially love how some of the voice-overs could easily be characters in South Park, and even more so how Squareenixfan13 was a miserable old Cockney. Hilarious!
One feedback from myself though..
DLC : Deliberately Left-out Content.
It's called Feedbacula so here I go: The Show-- 1. Cut the annoying voice overs of comments over text, I think we can all read here even if we can't all spell so either read them properly or be quiet 2. Cut the crap music 3. Enough ''jokes'',more facts 4. I would say replace the host, but I'm not trying to get anyone fired it's hard to get a job anywhere, which takes us to ---The Issues--: BlackOpsII-- I don't fully understand why people are complaining about this one because this is only a natural step. It's obvious online gaming will only get more expensive and if you play online in the first place you're already are paying for the internet, depending on your system you could be paying twice(Xbox Live) and then if you're really into it you had to pay for an Elite Pass, scratch that soon,season pass I guess. Again you already bought the console, chances are a big TV and decent sound system too. So I don't understand, does a few extra dollars on top of all this matter? No it shouldn't . If it does, you shouldn't have enough time to get mad about this ''issue''. Also, if everyone had not given in to paying a premium price in the first place for online gaming, this wouldn't be a problem now. ''We'' are to blame as well as the greedy companies. That being said let us move on to: --Skyrim-- I understand this one. It's ridiculous that a company is treating it's customers so poorly. I would recommended staying as far away as you can from Bethesda in the future over this one, if you were unlucky enough to get the PS3 version of Skyrim. You don't need a constant connection to the internet or some online pass to enjoy Skyrim, you can have hundreds of hours of fun for $60 right out of the box, compare that to the 7-8 hours you get from a COD game, more if you're replay on hardcore and do SpecOps and what have you, but definitively not more than Skyrim. Now, after the COD player has had to spend well over the initial price to enjoy their game for as long as Skyrim player has theirs, the Skyrim fan wants more, amazingly. They have had time to save up money(Yes, some people do only get one or two games a year and couldn't afford to keep up with COD or BF3 if they wanted to) and want to enjoy more Skyrim. Well you can if you were lucky and have a PC or Xbox too, but if you just have a PS3 the most you can do is apply the patches and save some more money. In closing I'll say this: If companies want respect and want people to buy their games instead of nice computers they should damn well offer proper support for their games. Why nice computers you ask? Well because torrenting doesn't take long to learn---The End--
I wouldn't mind paying for DLC if I enjoyed the original game and it added to the game. However, most DLC just seems to be a half-arsed waste of time. The only DLC I really enjoyed and thought was worth the money was : Shivering Isles for Oblivion, Awakening for Dragon Age, All DLC for Fallout 3 & New Vegas and all the Borderlands DLC. These are all for older titles when devs seemed to put in a bit of effort with DLC. I am really skeptical when it comes to the new "Season Pass" thing that seems to be the latest trend. It just seems that devs are working on the DLC at the same time they are working on the actual game, so it begs the question: "Should it have been included in the game in the first place ?" It just reeks of greed. I'm now worried about games like Assassin's Creed 3, as I've heard that it's tacking on a season pass. So, I'm assuming that DLC has already been made for it, but just wont be on the disc. Magic.
Now, it should be noted that the DLC question isn't "Does DLC add to a game or does it only complete a game released intentionally incomplete". We like to think in black and white, but the world isn't so simplistic. It's both, there are DLC packs which are designed to make money, and there are DLC packs which are designed to act as an encore (albeit one prompted by money). If anyone pays attention to what I've been posting here, then you'll know I'm no friend to publishers, but I don't think they're employing malicious individuals, who are completely indifferent to the consumers, so long as they keep filling their pie-holes with delicious DLC... pie, and all for a premium low cost of $9.99.99! No, that would be ridiculous. There are people working at EA, who have MBA and know nothing about making video games, and there are also people who care about the craftsmanship of their product.
But its easy to sit back on the internet and lambast DLC policies and claim that one company is "teh evol", but that's not a solution to the problem. As I pointed out this issue is a complex one, like many things in this world, and that means there is no absolute right and absolute wrongs in this issue. Most people would tell you to "vote with your wallet". I won't. People will always want to feel like they got the most out of their favourite games, and if you offer them more they'll take it. Is it wrong to buy extra guns for Mass Effect 3? No, it is not. But you shouldn't feel compelled to buy a new DLC, just because it exists.
Therefore, My only advice, for this and for all things in life is: Consider what you do before you do it. Think for yourself, and then you won't need to worry about being ripped off with DLC you don't really want.
I heard the PS3 problem is actually Sony's fault and not Bethesda's. It just doesn't port over well. Just resell it to Gamestop and get the PC version already.
I'm pretty excited for the new Dragonborn add-on. I'm really enjoying the Hearthfire DLC, but that's just because I enjoy fluff in a game that I've already spent over 350 hours on.
I think the question about if DLC's complete or enhance the game is the right question, that what i actually always thought about.
A game shouldn't feel incomplete without a DLC and should feel larger in a satisfying way when i get a DLC for it.
For example BF3 for PS3; I didn't buy any DLC's for it, and the game feels lacking without the DLC's. Other games like COD the map packs aren't worth that much of money.
The bottom line, that the game should give me the option to buy or not to buy the DLC, that if i don't buy it, I still get to experience the full features of the game, and if I buy it then i get my money's worth. On-disk DLC's are complete joke.
This and Escape from Mount Stupid are some of the most entertaining gaming videos going at the moment. The Brit team is putting the american team to shame! Keep it up guys.
@Okplay I'm afraid you are a part of the blind.
@Grenadeh Totally agree with you here, spot on.
@Carlos_D_F Johnnyhookers which all have beards and wear hipster glasses.
@Dugular So I was featured on this twice. The all for season pass was ME. Actually me XD
The other was my best friend who is now going to die when I get home from work XD lmao
@HigherMinded The comment voice overs are HILARIOUS if you don't like these vids then don't watch, simples.
@HigherMinded I'd refrain from commenting in the future if I were you, you're just totally disconnected and ridiculous.
@HigherMinded I'm so glad you're in the minority on this one :)
@HigherMinded Got to your first point and disagreed.. didn't read the rest!
@Verenti Well said.
@Verenti This is very much how I feel about DLC. I also don't like the 'vote with your wallet' mentality, because it puts some kind of moral dilemma on people. Why don't we say, 'buy what you actually want."? It's no longer a 'DLC is evil' or 'I love this game so it deserves to have DLC' but turns into 'is this expansion worth my money?' And if it is, buy it up. If it's not, don't. Like, for me, I bought some of the DLC for Dragon Age:Origins, because I wanted to keep playing that game and the expansion was worth the money to me. I didn't, however, buy the DLC for MW3, because I figured I'd just buy the next huge release of maps (Black Ops II). I don't condemn those who bought the maps, they just weren't worth it to me. It's not a moral problem, it's just a 'do I want to spend my money on this?' problem. If we all do that, it'll become what most people want.
@hemoleech Actually a few weeks ago Bethesda admitted that it was their fault and not sony's. Also the specs of both the PS3 and Xbox 360 are virtually the same. It is their utilization of memory that differs
@hemoleech If it doesn't port over well surely that's the DEVELOPERS problem?! Just sayin..
@Fembot_Eulogy Hells yeah!
@warhawk-geeby I'm sure they didn't anticipate how bad Skyrim would port over to the PS3. It probably just doesn't have the specs to be able to handle Skyrim well.