Falling in Love with Lara: Tomb Raider I

Johnny has never played Tomb Raider before. Will his first encounter with Lara Croft be a magical affair? (Spoilers: absolutely not).

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Sergsky
Sergsky

And he call himself a gamer? He should definitely should choose a different career. 

mrsqwid
mrsqwid

o but you will johnny YOU WILL

mrsqwid
mrsqwid

no johnny you don'y have the appreciation of badly rendered boobs 

soulless4now
soulless4now

Talk about an overkill with the bear. lol

not_wanted
not_wanted

"Johnny has never played Tomb Raider before"   It looks like he never played any games before. Jump then press action key, wtf was so hard?

Johnny, not only you don't have the patience but you also don't have the skill of a 10 year old in the 90s to play such a game. Also this isn't kinect, voice commands don't work. lol

nadavkra
nadavkra

I could hear this guy speaking all day long haha. (btw this game sums up my childhood and he DEFINITELY didn't get the hang of walking/jumping lol)

Saspisa
Saspisa

"It hardly had ANY story"

You weren't paying attention, or don't respect the macguffin.

"acting was suspect"

Acting? lol. The cut scenes were fine.

"Worst camera"

Bad? Sometimes. Worst? no.

"Controls...clunky"

TR1's controls were geometrically precise...if you learned them adequately. Sounds like you didn't.

TR was CORE, and the CORE games were legend. CD might have continued in that tradition had they not denigrated TR with "humanizing" Lara, stupid quicktime events, and stupid story retcon. It's telling that anniversary is the best TR game CD has made (minus the shoe-horned new story retcon). TR needs to rediscover its roots in those early heady days.

In conclusion, you can go ahead and join the other guy in the "what's wrong with gaming today" club for your lack of historical perspective:p (jking)

bielzabob
bielzabob

laughing the whole way through this, your soul was visibly sapped throughout this.. and i loved every second

SkyPirateRhys
SkyPirateRhys

I must say, after seeing this, you realize how poor this looked on the Saturn. Not to say i didn't love it though.

nomadski69
nomadski69

Aw man you quit before the T-Rex...


There was a technique to nailing the jumping, if you didnt get it, the game was rough.

RuthlessRich
RuthlessRich

I think this was the first 3D game I played...possibly... it was at a friend's house. We were about 6 or 7 and pretty scared of the bears. We had to get his older sister to deal with them.

Moondog954
Moondog954

never had a problem with the controls myself, but then i always played it on the PS1 lol

Mr_Pants_tent
Mr_Pants_tent

This was entertaining. Now I remember why I never got very far in these games.

MikeFeeney431
MikeFeeney431

I remember the frustration of this game until you really got the hang of it, even when you got the hang of it, simple jumps used to take a million attempts! His anger isn't unjust!

_Matt_
_Matt_

Wow some people here are taking this way too seriously. I for one think it was hilarious, and really made my Monday morning, cheers Johnny! :)

While I did love this game, the controls were horrible if you were not used to them, and I can imagine playing them for the first time AFTER you have played third person games of today with pretty much perfect controls, you would find Tomb Raider controls infuriating.


Will you be playing through the second Tomb Raider next? ;)

ilovelctr
ilovelctr

I don't think people need to pay that much attention to what Johnny says or the way he expresses his humor something, so much so that to criticize him. What we've got here is one of the greatest games ever. I suppose most people including myself who have played the original Lara Croft Tomb Raider didn't play it much better than Johnny back then, well... if not worse. Seeing videos like this reminds us of our childhood and the glory of a series that once shined back in the day, and how we struggled with keyboard/controller when we first played it. And those feelings are awesome, which I believe is the true essence of this video that may seem awkward at times. :D

Znuck_King_Ling
Znuck_King_Ling

I don't see why everyone keeps bashing him.  I think he's funny as hell, and this was just a flashback to all the control issues I remember so fondly from those old Tomb Raider games.

KingofCabal
KingofCabal

Well that was painfull! :D ..............Although awesome!

Voredor
Voredor

not sure what ur doing, it's not really funny, that game was awesome when it came out and even then i didn't have control problems, mb ur holding the controller wrong or just not trying now who ever wanted to play this game will not cause he will think the controls are bad +_+ good job  

wondernova
wondernova

Johnny you are a knob and not funny. I was expecting an intelligent video on what is considered one of the greatest games of all time. Your lack of skill and talent showcases your inexperience with video games. I bet your first console was a N64 and Mario is you favourite game. Go back to reviewing DS games.

chun-IDGAF-li
chun-IDGAF-li

the pedantic accent of this fellow is unbearable

TruSake
TruSake

This game gave way to any 3rd person shooter out there. This game is a classic. The problem is that it is almost 20 years old, so no shit you're going to find this game not up to today's standards. If you had played this game back when it was released you, like everyone else, would've loved it. Schooled!

theoasis77
theoasis77

PS: There's a button to slowly walk on the edges and then you can get the jump 100% of the time. It's all grid based so you can't miss...

theoasis77
theoasis77

Hmm... I still play part 2 it aged very well, still awesome big levels, and still didn't find all the secrets nealy 20 years later... Only noobs can't play these games, they control way better then most 3d games back then. It was copied for a reason, just like Cod, Halo, GoW, UC...

TommyT456
TommyT456

I can't watch this. I did have a lot of respect for you and your great british sense of humor Johnny but that kind of dwindled a bit when I started this video and realised you were just trashing the controls and animations of an all time classic simply due to the fact that it's not up to more modern standards. This game is not far off 20 years old!! Back in the day it was epic, obviously if you've never played it playing it now isn't going to have the same magical effect on you as it did on us back then, in fact it will seem kind of shoddy sure, but what I really don't get is how someone working in the gaming industry has never played any of the many games from one of the biggest franchises of all time. How does that happen!? And how did you get a job for gamespot with such a limited gaming background? :P

Coseniath
Coseniath

When I build my 1st PC ($1500), the local shop also gave me three games for free. Diablo, Red Alert and Tomb Raider. I still remember a lot of things from the game, like how to obtain the Uzi's or the epic atmosphere of Atlantis... These were the days when game developers were able to innovate...

edit: press "Shift" and "Up" after climbing somewhere :)

RO-nIn187
RO-nIn187

man i remember this one too... i never really was a fan of the series (or 3d platformers) but it had its moments... what i remembered most were the secrets hidden inside laras house, they were always fun (plus the shower scene, damn hormones during puberty, had me playing TR2 almost non stop crouching) :D

NullLight
NullLight

This game is an absolute legend that revolutionized the genre at that time. It's nothing less than epic and mesmerising in so many ways. Although I agree on the conrols being clunky, I must say that you would have had a much better experience if you had used a gamepad and taken some time to get a handle on the TR's mechanics. 

SEEDman_X
SEEDman_X

this is surprising entertaining to watch :-)

nintendoboy16
nintendoboy16

Honestly, not to disregard the cIassics as there wouldn't be a TR series without them. But since I started the series fairly late (first game being Legend on the GameCube), I ended up getting the remake on the Wii, which I think is great.

infected84784
infected84784

your should have read the controls before playing this game. I remember confusing with jumping mechanics and falling while playing it for the very first few times, but soon it was my favorite game. I enjoyed this series for years. It has very solid and intuitive controls. Once you learn them you only fall in haste.

Great Game Indeed.

godzillavskong
godzillavskong

I still have Tomb Raider for my Saturn and I absolutely love it! Controls are a bit awkward and don't stand the test of time very well, but still a awesome experience, which I enjoy repeating from time to time. Even the score was epic! I remember when I first encountered the Dinosaur, which caught me by surprise, and had me running rapidly for cover! Aaah. There's been some good ones, and some very poor ones( looking at you Tomb Raider Chronicles-Dreamcast), but this is still the best one IMO .

MJaP
MJaP

Poor Johnny, that was very evil of them to make you play Tomb Raider 1 as your first experience of the franchise, I was forever slipping off ledges when I played it when it first came out, and i lost count how many times I tried the jumps at the end of the video before i made it. Don't give up, I suggest playing Tomb Raider Anniversary, it's the modern remake of TR1. It looks and plays so much better and you don't feel like you're having to fight the controls all the time. I guarantee you'll fall in love.

POP-3D
POP-3D

@Johnny author of this video, if you will ever be reading this!:

First, you are so true, you don't have the patience of a 10 years old back in the 90ies.

Now, let me try to help:
 

Up, Down, Left and right for directions, Ctrl to interact and grab on ledges, Alt to jump and swim, Shift to walk (and also prevents lara from falling over ledges), Space to draw/Holster weapons, Num0 to look around and examine the surroundings, 'End' to roll on the floor and revers direction and i set F for flares, and C for crouch, can't remember what was the default!

1st) To pull and push objects, you first press 'Ctrl' to start interacting with the object and then you press the direction you want, 'up' to push, 'back' to pull. NOTE: DO NOT PRESS FORWARD FIRST THEN 'CTRL' OR LARA WILL CLIMB UP THE OBJECT INSTEAD OF PUSHING IT.

2nd) 'Alt' is to jump and swim, so if you are in front of an object and want to climb on it you first press 'forward' then 'Ctrl' to climb it, BUT if the object is too high for lara to climb it right away with 'Ctrl' then you jump first, so you press 'Alt' (WITHOUT PRESSING ON ANY THING ELSE) and then you follow it by 'Ctrl' to grab on the ledge when lara is at the maximum height of her jump then follow it by Up to climb up. (you can also press shift while climbing up for a cool acrobatic climbing). ;)

Now what's if you want to run and jump on another platform in front of you?, well there is two methods to do that:
when the other platform is near you simply just do a 'hop', so you just press 'Shift' walk to the edge and then press both 'Alt' and forward at the same time to do a hop.

When the other platform is far and  you want to do a run and jump then you do what any normal person would do in such case!... You first walk to the edge then take a few steps back and then run and jump, that's how any one would do it and that is how you do it in the game as well... So you first press 'Shift', walk to the edge and then release 'Shift' and take a step or two back depending on how much space you have behind you, if you have small space you can take one step without 'Shift' and then another step with 'Shift' or even two steps with 'Shift' and then you run and instantly press jump (make sure to time it, not too early but also not too late) try it a few times till you get the hang of it and learn the timing.

3rd) I know that this seems annoying but you'll get used to it, to interact with buttons, or door keys, etc... you need to face them right directly, so use 'Shift' to walk to the button and then turn to face it directly first then press 'Ctrl' to interact, also note that while holding 'Shift' pressing right or left will make lara take a step right or left instead of turning so you can adjust your position easily. Same thing goes to interacting with button or door keys underwater.


4th) Combat... When you are in a fight always try to get a higher ground, and also do not stand in the same place, lara is so acrobatic, you can use that to your advantage.

You can jump with Left or right to jump to the sides, you can jump with backward to make a back flip, you can jump forward while holding 'Shift' to do a dive, you can press 'End' to roll on the floor and quickly change direction, and you can also combine 'End' the roll action with any of your jumps to revers direction in mid-air, so you can jump backward and while doing the back flip press 'End' in mid-air to revers direction so you can do a quick escape, or you can run toward your target and jump forward over it while doing a roll in mid-air and lad on the other side while still facing your target, you can also use a combination of all of these while running around to dodge your attacker, get on higher ground, become a hard moving target, use your surroundings to evade attacks and take out your target while it tries hardly to catch up with you. (Note: you can be firing your weapons at your target while doing all of these acrobatics, except for the dive jump).

5th) ALLWAYS, and allow me to say it again, ALWAYS remember to press 'Num0' to look around and investigate the location and examine your surroundings for hints of the direction you should be heading to or for secrets or hidden paths in the location around you.

And also always remember to save, this is an old game where saving manually every two seconds were a must. (Oh i miss those good old days).


I can't think of any thing else you might need to know about at the moment, i hope i manage to help a bit and i hope you would give it a second go after learning more about it.

I'm totally interested in seeing how you will progress with this game. :)

AtotehZ
AtotehZ

@Sergsky  He is trying out a game that has an antique physics. When you're used to playing the games of today, Tomb Raider 1996 is horrible.

xsa
xsa

@not_wanted Funny how you are missing the point entirely. He's saying he's enjoying himself, which is the point of games. Whining at other people for their "lack of skill" isn't enjoyable for anyone, so please stop.

HSV002
HSV002

@Saspisa Calm down mate, its just a bit of fun, poking fun at games this old is allways good fun, i have no idea these days how i managed with Mario64 that was a frustrating game

IGFGAThrawn
IGFGAThrawn

@wondernova  Uh...that's news to me that Tomb Raider is considered one of the best games ever. One of the most innovative, yes, bringing 3D games and 3rd person shooters to the forefront, but, as a fan of the series, I can safely say that it is NOT one of the best games and I have never seen any of my game-a-holic friends say so either. Hell, the original isn't even the best game in its own series and, unlike many other old games, has NOT stood up to the test of time, unlike a game of, say, Myst's calibre. Now, Mario DOES own several of the best game ever spots, especially SMB 3, as does some of the games from the N64 you seem to dislike so much, i.e. GoldenEye, Super Mario 64, Castlevania, and Star Fox 64. The original TR didn't even make the top 100 in a best-of list I saw on TV last year, and with good reason.

And before you wonder, yes, I played this game when it first came out and I still own my copy.

KingofCabal
KingofCabal

@wondernova And you my friend go back to not commenting on GS. Ever again. Johnny you Rule!!!

faizanhd
faizanhd

@TruSake You still have to admit that Tomb Raider has aged worse compared to games like Half-Life or Super Mario 64 and Thief.If you played these games today,you would still enjoy them.

il_loco2k
il_loco2k

@POP-3D 

Nice summary I guess, but let me set some things straight. First of all, this is tomb raider 1, not 2 nor 3. So, no crouching, no flares and no change direction mid-air. Flares and changing direction mid air, and in water, were introduced in Tomb Raider 2. Crouching was introduced in Tomb Raider 3. 

About the large jumps, I find easier to just make one backstep (no shift), run and almost immediately after pressing forward press jump. This way you always jump at the ledge at the right moment (it is mentioned on the tutorial too [lara´s house, on the ramps in the ball room]).

Ton interact with things, as you said, you must be facing them directly, but also centered on the object. The same goes for those blocks. To move them, yo have to face directly to them, and be centered to them. There´s no such thing as pushing blocks from the right/left side (as in the video).

Also, you forgot to mention the sidestepping. By default they are assigned to numpad 7 and numpad 9. Those will help you a lot centering lara to the objects. 

Also, i'd recommend playing with the numpad, By the default key assignments, on the numpad you have easy access to all commands. 8,4,6 and 2 are your movement keys. 7 and 9 are your sidestep. 1 for walking (you can press shift as well, but for some reason [cheap] my keyboard doesn´t recognize shift + numpad 2, so no step backwards) and 0 for looking around. After this, you just use your left hand for alt, ctrl and space (jump, action and draw weapons respectively).

Finally, and I think one of the most important things about this game (if not the most important) is PATIENCE. The controls feel sluggish and lara feels like a truck (but somehow this always struck me as kinda realistic. It feels as if i am really controlling a person), the camera 80% of the time just sucks. But at the end, I would say that all things considered this is a great game. You just have to "learn" it (just like much of the old games).

Sergsky
Sergsky

@AtotehZ Exactly, the game is that old, and it is one of the first full 3D third-person games ever made, so it was an incredible feat for its time. This guy is acting like a kid that never played anything before 2009. Next time he'll say something similar about Metal Gear Solid o Mario 64. 
So why waste our time watching and listening to someone so stupid. It is insulting; like watching someone mocking movies from the 50s.

wondernova
wondernova

@IGFGAThrawn 

 There's a passage I got memorized. Ezekiel 25:17. The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you. I been sayin' that **** for years. And if you ever heard it, it meant your ***. I never really questioned what it meant. I thought it was just a cold-blooded thing to say to a motherf**ker before you popped a cap in his ***. But I saw some **** this mornin' made me think twice. Now I'm thinkin': it could mean you're the evil man. And I'm the righteous man. And Mr. 9mm here, he's the shepherd protecting my righteous a** in the valley of darkness. Or it could be you're the righteous man and I'm the shepherd and it's the world that's evil and selfish. I'd like that. But that sh*t ain't the truth. The truth is you're the weak. And I'm the tyranny of evil men. But I'm tryin', Ringo. I'm tryin' real hard to be a shepherd.

wondernova
wondernova

@KingofCabal

Sorry did I offend you? Or did you get lost in what is considered a REAL game. No one holding your hand for this one. Figure it out on you own!

POP-3D
POP-3D

@KingofCabal @POP-3D Hahaha, you won't believe it, i sleep only about 3 to 4 hours a day because i have no time to even breath between my tight schedules, specially with all the projects that must be delivered within this month. (I'm an architectural graphics designer)

But this is Tomb Raider, it is my favorite video game of all time, and when it comes to it, breathing takes the second place in priority. :)

I just couldn't help it when i saw what he was doing with Lara.

POP-3D
POP-3D

@il_loco2k@POP-3D Thanks for correcting me, it has been like 16 years since i last played this game, i forget that its controls were different from the rest of the series.

I found it easier to play with the up, down, left and right controls accessing Num0 with my pinky and 'End' with middle finger, and hold shift with left and right to side-step (i did mention that in my post) i think this feature was available in TR1! and yup, i forgot to mention that you also have to be centered to the object you want to interact with. :)

"and lara feels like a truck" haha, i always thoughthe same thing.

"PATIENCE" I 100% agree, it is the most important thing about this game.

Now i am just thinking of buying the entire series again on Steam :) , too bad it does not include the 'Gold Editions' and 'The Lost Artifact'

il_loco2k
il_loco2k

@POP-3D 

Oh yes, I forgot to mention. The version he (Johnny) is playing is the Steam one (and for that matter, the GOG one). I'd really recommend changing the glide wrapper. By default, the package comes with openglide (i'm not so sure) and it has problems with gamma ramp (that´s why the game looks too bright on the video) and with vsync. 

I'd recommend getting nglide. There's also vgVoodoo (1.5 beta2), and it works fine (even better for the gamma problem) but it didn´t solve the vsync for me. Finally, if you want the easiest/best solution, hi res textures and the original music from the psx version, go for Glidos. The only problem is that it costs $10 (yep, thats 10 besides what you pay for the game). You can try it for the first 2 levels before the glidos logo show up on screen.

wondernova
wondernova

@KingofCabal@wondernova 

 You know, my daddy used to say--"every man's got a devil and you can't rest 'til you find him". What happened back there with you and your girlfriend, I cleared that building. Hell, nothing in this town happens without my say-so. So I'm sorry if I spoiled your wedding plans there, friend. If it's any consolation to you, you have put a smile on my face. You got a lot of spirit son, I am gonna miss you.

KingofCabal
KingofCabal

@wondernova wtf are you talking about? Get back to me when you start making any kind of sense. Or rather dont since you probably never will.

POP-3D
POP-3D

@il_loco2k OH THANKS. :D and thanks for the links too, now the TR series is my next purchase on Steam. :)

il_loco2k
il_loco2k

@POP-3D @il_loco2k

Oh, by all means you should buy them. And fear not, there are ways to get the expansions too.  Just check the steam and gog forums for tomb raider. There are guides and/or instructions there.

Also, I think there are ways to get the original psx music to work without glidos. Haven´t looked for it, i prefer the pc ambience sounds ;)