Classic Game Postmortem - Shenmue

Yu Suzuki, the influential Japanese game designer famously known for his work at Sega, will be delivering a Classic Game Postmortem on the iconic Dreamcast game Shenmue.

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LE5LO
LE5LO

R.I.P Shenmue 3 -11, SEGA would rather spend its money on licensing stuff like Aliens for sub-par movie tie-ins.

LE5LO
LE5LO

If SEGA let Yu Suzuki crowd-source Shenmue III, I have no doubt the project would skyrocket over what Doublefine made on Kickstarter. So many of us that finished the first two Shenmue games would like a proper conclusion to the story, it's one of the few classic stories in a game franchise that deserves to be resolved as was intended from the beginning, not abruptly ended and forgotten about.

kagento
kagento

"When is Shenmue 3 coming out?" XD Seems almost like a pipedream to me at this point...

Gelugon_baat
Gelugon_baat

That was a ham-fisted trailer for the first Shenmue.

EMPTY-V
EMPTY-V

Shenmue 2 and Metal Gear Solid 1 were games that took me out of my zone of conventional non-stop action and instant gratification and then showed me that games are growing up and so am I. They told me to be more open-minded as to what games could also be; they can be the greatest interactive story-tellers that can actually inspire instead of just satisfy the need to be simply entertained. This was great to watch

CatAtomic999
CatAtomic999

"I'm looking for a place where sailors hang out."


lol, still the most uncomfortable line in gaming.

11_17_06
11_17_06

When will this cursed game be released ??? Been waiting for to long for Shenmue 3 for way to long. Give us something !!!

amdreallyfast
amdreallyfast

This is very cool to have an in-depth look at how a game idea came to fruition, how it changed, how they went about developing and testing it, and the complications they ran into and how they fixed them.

psuedospike
psuedospike

Shenmue 3, Half Life 3 and Last Guardian are the new Duke Nukem Forevers.

AlexNSN
AlexNSN

Very nice. Shenmue became a bit more impressive for me. 

CTR360
CTR360

i hope see shenmue 3 on the future but probably never happens

Slagar
Slagar

I enjoyed this. It was very nostalgic and interesting to hear Suzuki-san's thought process, and how the project evolved. It's clear that Shenmue was really a dream. I think it will stay that way in our hearts. :)

Metallicwolf29
Metallicwolf29

i used to love sparring with the other guy in the dojo.

2Black2Strong
2Black2Strong

I hope SEGA realizes that they dropped the ball. They make such awful games yet they have this IP that everyone wants. Glad that it was displayed at GDC to encourage other developers to pursue finishing this game. With Yu Suzuki showing what took place to make it and relighting the flame, others will revisit this from here on out(I believe)

fighting_otaku
fighting_otaku

i hope this means that shenmue is coming back, cause man shenmue is one of the best overall games i have ever played.. i remember playing the games nonstop exploring and all types of things and enjoying every bit of the game


but with that said im so hoping this means more shenmue is on the way, i would also love and shenmue 1 and 2 HD to come out cause we all know it deserves it


but heres hoping for shenmue to make its big return

2Black2Strong
2Black2Strong

Shenmue was so revolutionary that it actually showed the store owners close up at night and walk home. That is still unheard of even with the technology of today. People didn't randomly disappear. It was a living and breathing world.

amar1234
amar1234

they need to remake this game for modern era. For such an awesome game so few people would have played it, i mean who had a saturn lol? You can play on emu i guess but it aint the same, . Need a remake .

RedKingShura
RedKingShura

I like how Mark Cerny is translating :D 

janecadet
janecadet

Yes! I love this game so much.

suppaphly42
suppaphly42

shenmue3 oh i'd sell my first born just to find out what happens

Blue-Sky
Blue-Sky

I played Shenmue when it first released  and it blew my mind. There was simply no other game like it. 

flaviocardamone
flaviocardamone

Nice interview, it's very interesting to know such new informations. It's good to confirm how was important to Yu Suzuki to get the human feeling inside the story. With time, Shenmue is gaining the importance that it really always has deserved.

edubuccaneer
edubuccaneer

This was pretty interesting to watch. Thanks for posting the archive. 

CloWnCircus
CloWnCircus

I'm jealous of Mark Cerny and his ability to understand and speak fluent Japanese, he was actually the one doing the translation. Great guy!

Armbreakfire
Armbreakfire

That was incredibly exciting to watch. Can't wait to find out when part 2 is... Thank Yu!

jd7904
jd7904

What I would love to see in Shenmue 3 if it were ever to happen is a love letter to classic Sega Fans. Make it so you can get a Saturn, SG 1000, Mega Drive and Master System with a selection of games to unlock in some way. also an arcade with all the AM2 classics like Daytona, VF etc. With the size of current media they could fit 50+ old Sega games on there as well.

Meztrov
Meztrov

I Knew it, no Shenmue 3, not even a HD...no NO nope no, I'm not pissed though, just tired...but I guess every Shenmue Fan is, but we are still fighting for it...nice Post-mortem.

Loshead
Loshead

I would pay $100 to kickstarter for shenmue 3 right now 

LE5LO
LE5LO

@Gelugon_baat  xD. So true, can't wait for another ham-fisted one for Shenmue II though, hopefully we get another presentation at next years GDC. 

LE5LO
LE5LO

@amdreallyfast You should check out Geoff Keighley's 'behind the games' articles on Daikatana, MGS2, Half Life and a few others, they're also a good read on the topic of game design for anyone who's interested in seeing more, also Romero's GDC presentation on Doom from awhile back. ;)

Slagar
Slagar

@amar1234  I had a Saturn!! (;

It was badass. I played Nights into Dreams (which was mindblowing), Tomb Raider, Resident Evil, Panzer Dragoon... those were really great times. It had a HARD DRIVE, none of this silly "memory stick" business. And the controller was super-comfy IMO. :)

EcksTheory
EcksTheory

No need to be jealous, learn it yourself. It's hard but if it truly interests you don't let fear of hard work stand in your way.

hystavito
hystavito

@CloWnCircus  I wonder why he didn't do it for the Q/A though.

double_O7
double_O7

@Meztrov  GDC isn't a consumer show. Its just a conference about game development. I big game announcement there would've been odd, to say the least. If E3 and TGS come and go with nothing then I'll be worried.

amar1234
amar1234

@2Black2Strong @amar1234  


That's what is what i said originally then i edited it to saturn after a few minutes of watching this lol.he said saturn at first then says "next gen" saturn further in ie dreamcast. 

mbchfdh2
mbchfdh2

@EcksTheory  Quite agree. I was learning it at night school for a couple of years (when my plan was to move to Japan to teach English), and it was great fun.


Hard, but not impossible.


Armbreakfire
Armbreakfire

@Metallicwolf29 Yeah the second game's great, though I was referring to the final "To Be Continued" slide at the presentation.

reaperke
reaperke

@Metallicwolf29 @Armbreakfire  Actually both came out on Dreamcast as I have the originals at home, Shenmue 2 then got re-released on the original xbox with then some hope for shenmue 3 which got nixxed due to let down sales, which is a serious injustice to gaming but it's reality.


Considering SEGA doesn't exist in the same form nor has close to the same quality standards as back then even though I would love to see Shenmue 3 it also poses some concerns.


I also believe that no publisher would take the risk on such game again, certainly not SEGA, as most general gamers don't care about such game experiences anymore and don't even know what Shenmue was.

Meztrov
Meztrov

@double_O7 this I understand since its just a post-mortem, but you know, sneak-a-cheky one Yu, haha, Give us fans something, like a wink wink, nudge nudge, nothing formal, just slip a tease...

Slagar
Slagar

@juboner @Loshead  ... what? Programmer's basic needs 101: 

1.) Computer.

2.) Sleeping aparatus (of some kind; e.g. old mat; and/or litterbox).

3.) Ramen.