@Planeforger: yep, I am sure. You said bats and bows, well, i mean 'bat' like an animal :-)

Also i am pretty sure i was outside at the begining of the game, it was night. Also i think game was much simple then mentioned games.

I know thief games :-) by the way damn post limit here! Also i checked arx fatalis on the youtube and no, its not what i played. Arx fataliis is complex, you can pull things this was not in my game