@zappat: Your failure in these arguments with these lemmings isn't that you couldn't present your case...it's that you allowed them to change the actual subject of the argument and you never recovered.

Since lemmings have now all jumped on the XBL damage control argument...

You should have doubled back to the ORIGINAL topic about MP "games" and asked...

"Are you lemmings finally admitting that xbox has the worst selection of MP games among any of the major console providers????"

Since XBL was the deflection tactic Lems used to derail the MP GAMES argument because I showed the Switch offers the best selection of MP games and lems themselves admit Sony provides the best AAA single player narrative games.

They ran from the games argument!

You shouldn't even be arguing about the best "services" because it's not related to my argument. lemmings were trying to avoid addressing MP games and you allowed them to lead you off their cliff...

You're going to experience a story where you take your wife's ashes to Jupiter with your Boi!

Here lem..

PS4's Crackdown 3!

• over 100 missions

• completely destructible environment

• mindless fun gameplay

• online multiplayer

• Split-screen co-op

• bonus of shitty graphics to match gameplay over graphics arguments.

You see, PS4 has DOZENS of games the same level of Crackdwon 3 that we never mention here because LEMMINGS would dismiss them as "niche" and "no body cares" or "weaboo" and "they don't count" because they are our B level titles and apparently nothing on playstation 4 counts unless it's a critically acclaimed AAA title.

You're sitting here lashing out at Sony fans because we aren't forced to praise every B-level we get as the second coming? It's not our fault xbox has no games and you're forced to pretend that Crackdown 3 is something special when it would just be added to a random pile of B-level games if it was on the PS4!

Crackdown 3 is not a special game, PS4 gets games of this level all the time we just don't hype them to the moon.

Crackdown 3 will be lucky to manage the 7.3 MC score that Earth Defense force 5 has received, a game cows don't even hype but I"m mentioning for this instance to show how starved you guys are for games.

It is good enough for Chris Roberts to name drop in order to get more attention for his game in that area.

lol you surely don't see him name dropping any generic basement developed PC games because no one would care!

Cry moar

I don't care about playing the game clown, I'm just pointing out some FACTS.

If you're too deluded to acknowledge the leads the developer himself is dropping that's your fault.

I'd laugh so hard if they show up at PSX 2019.

It would be a major dick move of them to do a major 2020 launch reveal of Squadron 42 at a console event, but Chris Roberts loves money does he not?

Also the guy is CLEARLY looking at the console market's top AAA games to measure his game against (since PC doesn't have any) and wants to promote to THAT demographic...He's literally doing that with this press.

This isn't a "dream" fanboy...just FACTS.

I don't know if he would show up at PSX 2019 but I wouldn't be surprised. What I do know is he is making an effort to appeal to the console demographic with his latest PR and will make every effort to break into this market.

Also the fact that this cuck is salivating over CONSOLE exclusive games here...EVERY example, is a warning sign this guy is going to SCREW all you PC fans who invested in this game thinking it was going to be PC exclusive.

Look at his list of games closely here to see what he's REALLY focused on competing against..

TLOU2, RDR2 and God of War

What do all these games have in common now?????

That's right, NONE of them are on PC!

So WHO is he trying to appeal to with this comparison when that demographic isn't even related to platform or gamers funding his project???

They've already announced they're going to release 2020, coincidentally the same time when PS5 drops. I wouldn't be surprised if this guy already has a PS5 dev kit and show up at Sony's PSX event to promote Star Citizen for PS5.

The fact that this guy has to name drop the other TOP games in this area in an attempt to promote his game and to gain attention says it all.

Classless cuck and shameless dickrider.

"Bu but TLOU2, God of War and RDR2 ain't all that, hey look at my game please!!!"

You don't see Naughty Dog, Rockstar or Santa Monica name dropping on other titles trying to knock what they've done in order to gain recognition. They let their games speak for themselves when they show them off.

What makes this scam artist think he can compare himself to devs who've proven themselves in this area of quality?

He need to STFU trying to knock games in an area he's ever even come close to matching them in and just focus on making the best game "HE" can make.

Nah bro the game is a 5 and 6 with luck.

I mean even the multiplayer promised was downgraded to Red Faction's level, a game released 2009. Infamous was 2014....it's 2018 and Crackdown 3 releases 2019.

You starting to see the picture?

Games that have achieved a BETTER version of the bar Crackdown 3 is trying to meet in 2019 got a MAX score of 8.0...in 2014 or longer ago. Sunset Overdrive is another example.

7.0 would be EXTREEEEMELY generous!

Crackdown 3 isn't an indie title, it's supposed to be AAA and should be treated as such but reviewers may just give the game a mercy score of 7 to keep lems alive.

Realistically for 2019, a game like this, if not developed by a budget indie studio, would be lucky to get 6.0 at this quality.

lol at lems talking about, "well it's about the gameplay" Crackdown isn't a game that EVER had amazing gameplay. It's gameplay is just mindless and generic mahem; Ala Saint's Row, which also looks better than CD3 gameplay in every way.

Why is Crackdown 3's gameplay being pitches as if it's something that's ever been above par?

lol Please stop talking like Crackdown has excellent gameplay lems, it's not even AA caliber and never was.

Here's Infamous SS, a game lems bashed for generic gameplay 4 years ago...and now we're supposed to believe you guys saying Crackdown 3's gameplay is amazing???

Again, the animations and gameplay of CD3 are dated and stiff as all hell.

Forget the graphics, the GAMEPLAY looks like complete shit, so stop with the non-sense false enthusiasm clowns, you're embarrassing yourselves.

The entire game is 1/10 of the quality of games that released years ago and were already surpassed.