@cotterell55 It will be in the DLC.

@OleanderX Well actually I used to think that XBOX runs windows underneath. However, even if not that it runs its own version of based on NT/2000 kernel. It does expose the same API's though which for the end user means, if it acts like a dog and barks like one then it probably is. Anyway, I digress. My point was that your statement about it being a PC for console people is not very meaningful if you understand the nitty gritty of it all, but I could be wrong.

@Kabbalistica @siphr Yes exactly. That is what I am trying to imply when I talk about the guarantee of a fixed spec.

@OleanderX What do you classify as a PC or a console? Consoles these days are PC's with a guarantee of a fixed spec for a given period of time thats all.

@JustArtificial Yes very well said. I would also add that if you check the pricing of Xi3 it is a bit ridiculous. For that price one could roll their own. nVidia could cause severw disruption if they were to release an external GPU. That hooked up to something like a Zotac Nano would be a pretty decent setup. I believe that would be the game changer not an overpriced Piston box.

Yes very likely. However, your average joe doesn't care. They'd happily play COD over and over again. :)

@COPMAN221ISBACK Hahah, this made me laugh so much. Well said.

Well did you expect him to say anything else? If you did you are naive.

@cousinmerl @siphr Indeed! And look at what it really is now. I am gonna hold back my "oooooohh shiny" comments until I see the real deal.

I smell BS. Reminds me of the first few ads for kinect.