@davillain- just realized it after I posted it lol thanks though

Hello I am new to the site name's shadow773. Now this is how I define Hack and slash

1. players kill mobs
2. get loot (like)
3. armor
4. weapons
5. and healing items
6. bows and magic shooting staffs are not excluded

These days people are adding "beat 'em ups" to hack and slash genre. if you cannot plunder loot that you can use I don't think it is a hack and slash. so think Devil May Cry, Bayonetta, Onechanbara, and the like are more like "beat 'em up" along the line of final fight, tmnt the arcade and Double Dragon.