@badwedgie00 Everyone seems to forget the Xbox 360's common red ring of death?! YET it was still a popular console and survived, Seriously lay off Nintendo, and anyone that has Ceo status and states that they are going to remake a console after 6 months release isnt the best of ideas no offense.

@q-w-e-r-t-y No it more or less likely that Nintendo are thinking ahead to try and compete with OUYA? also to everyone else that complains about the Wii U failing wait until 2013 is over till you make a comment, as far as i have read there are a few exclusive on the way which can make all the difference also wait to see the impact of the ps4 and xbox infinity or what ever its called Wii u is like 5 months old or something come on.

@servb0ts Or go and buy expandable memory? no disrespect by the way.

@alumsden3 If you put it into perspective you would need a ps2 connected, ps3 connected, and the new ps4 to play all of sonys released games by the way you cant transfer your downloadable content from ps3 to 4, nah ill pass, it just seems to lazy for what i think will be an expensive product that would act just like a super computer? not hating on it just doesn't make sense.

@HowlPendragon @ploomp89 I have recently checked out the specs to the ps4, it is impressive, however it comes down to them having a good game line up, i reckon it will cost AU $800 for that hardware if not more i wonder what HD capacity it will be.

@bmart970 @ploomp89 I was told that it was online play only.

@JtAgentX Becuase of this it shows sony doesnt care for its customers there for i will not by a ps4, what a joke i mean not even backwards compatable to ps3 games?

So does anybody know if Xbox being online only is a subscription based console now?

Does anyone else feel that Ps4 is more of the same thing as Ps3?

Why is everyone comparing the Wii U to the Dreamcast?, about 60% of the people here do your research watch some youtube video reviews and understand things about the Miiverse, how original and light the controller is, i agree that the game line up should be better and im sure it will improve, the loading times still need to be made that bit faster, but dont go comparing Nintendos latest console to Sega's Dreamcast when we havent got alot of details on the new Xbox or Ps4 yet, seriously its a premature judgment, if you dont like Nintendo for their games, thats understandable everyone is entitled to their opinion, but dont go saying this isnt a next gen console based on being a fan of a particular brand its not cool ey.