My very first total war game was shogun total war. I remember the day I went to my local mall to buy it ( I was 14-15) I remember my very first strategy game if you could call it that was north vs south on nintendo haha but what really got me into shogun was sid meier's gettysburg. i played that for 2 years or so and moved onto shogun when i saw it in the mall once day. the first shogun was definitley the best experience for me and then rome when it came out 5 some years later. I only hope Rome II will bring back some familiar things seen in the first. I agree less DLC's and more stuff from the get-go and Barbarian tribes to the north should not be pushover's. CA has the chance to dethrone the first shogun as best game in my collection so hopefully they dont disappoint :)