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#1 hd28guy_basic
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[QUOTE="VoodooHak"][QUOTE="VILE_VIVI"][QUOTE="JeffGenocideX"]XBL $50a yr > WoW $14.99 a month.GunmetalXIII

WoW is a better experiance than any game XBL enabled



But we're not talking about WoW versus any one game on XBL. In terms of cost, we're talking Wow vs ALL games on XBL, since by being an XBL subscriber, you can play online with all of them... for less than what you pay for Wow.... a single game.



ALL games on Xbox Live cost more combined than WoW and a year of monthly fees. This is a silly comparison...

wtf...

you pay $50 for the service of xbox live.. all xbox live enabled games can be played for free...

unless you think it's $50 for halo2, another $50 crimson skies, another $50 for ghost recon, etc, etc, etc..

silly...:lol:

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#2 hd28guy_basic
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[QUOTE="JeffGenocideX"]XBL $50a yr > WoW $14.99 a month.VILE_VIVI

WoW is a better experiance than any game XBL enabled

nice opinion... too bad that one game doesn't cover as many genres as xbox live games..:)

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#3 hd28guy_basic
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[QUOTE="VoodooHak"][QUOTE="Rosencrantz"]

The fact is that if anything is going to kill XBL it is going to be Microsoft themselves. They have full control over it and they profit off of it. Meanwhile developers get little to nothing out of the deal. I predict that if other consoles can gain enough of a percentage of their user base, developers will focus more on them. Developers don't like that the PS2 online is unreliable in terms of who will buy into it. However, they love the fact that they have full control over their own product...something XBL doesn't exactly offer.

Having said that, right now the user base for online shows no signs of breaking through that %10 point. So to argue that nobody else can compete is like going back in time to the 80s and asking Sega to compete with the Power Glove. It's stupid and not worth the time at this point.

adrian1480



Developers aren't getting anything by being on XBL? They have the benefit of having online available to their games without having to run servers or maintain all the services that XBL does for them. They also have a ready medium through which they can distribute extra content.

This opens the door to developers not as big as EA to actually get their games online.

Online, in turn, is a decent selling point for a game.

Comparing the support that devs/pubs give XBL as opposed to PS2 online.... that says alot.



And did someone mention MICROTRANSACTIONS?

Last I remember, devs were exstatic about being able to sell DIRECLY TO THE CONSUMER in this way. I'd be my left pinkie finger that Bungie made out like bandits on those newly released maps that most propbably bought via Live. No packaging or shipping costs for Bungie incurred. just straight $$$$$.

actually every one of those maps are now available for FREE via xbox live download...

nice self ownage...:lol:

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#4 hd28guy_basic
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[QUOTE="hd28guy_basic"][QUOTE="VILE_VIVI"][QUOTE="hd28guy_basic"][QUOTE="UssjTrunks"][QUOTE="donnie_mcgee"][QUOTE="Scottydooo"][QUOTE="AntiType"][QUOTE="Dr_Drooom"]

[QUOTE="AntiType"]By making it FREEonslaught460

Free = you get what you pay for = crap

Free PC Online > X-Box LIVE



pc online is a lot easier to maintain, the resources are there... for console gaming, if you dont pay, it is crud... and you know it

Yeah, playing WoW and Everquest 2 are free! Cool, lets all play WoW all day long with no fees!

That's 2 games. In order to play anything on Xbox Live it will cost you

it moots the point all pc gaming online is free....


Nearly all PC online games are free

that's nice... but still not free as stated earlier...

You're saying that pc online gaming isn't free for the end user?

i'm saying not all pc gaming online is free... try to keep up or find a new thread more your speed...:)

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[QUOTE="hd28guy_basic"][QUOTE="UssjTrunks"][QUOTE="donnie_mcgee"][QUOTE="Scottydooo"][QUOTE="AntiType"][QUOTE="Dr_Drooom"]

[QUOTE="AntiType"]By making it FREEVILE_VIVI

Free = you get what you pay for = crap

Free PC Online > X-Box LIVE



pc online is a lot easier to maintain, the resources are there... for console gaming, if you dont pay, it is crud... and you know it

Yeah, playing WoW and Everquest 2 are free! Cool, lets all play WoW all day long with no fees!

That's 2 games. In order to play anything on Xbox Live it will cost you

it moots the point all pc gaming online is free....


Nearly all PC online games are free

that's nice... but still not free as stated earlier...

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#6 hd28guy_basic
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[QUOTE="hd28guy_basic"][QUOTE="rocklegacy2"]

[QUOTE="Gabino_basic"]microsoft just charges you for picking your server for you and giving you an instant message system, they should call it messenger.... oh wait.....
VILE_VIVI

:lol: XBL is pretty useless anyway. If a console online service is free it's alot better

xbox live is the only console service... the ps2 only has online capabilities....:)


First smart thing I've ever heard you say

that's only b/c you're not educated enough to recognize the rest....

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[QUOTE="Gabino_basic"]microsoft just charges you for picking your server for you and giving you an instant message system, they should call it messenger.... oh wait.....
rocklegacy2

:lol: XBL is pretty useless anyway. If a console online service is free it's alot better

xbox live is the only console service... the ps2 only has online capabilities....:)

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[QUOTE="donnie_mcgee"][QUOTE="Scottydooo"][QUOTE="AntiType"][QUOTE="Dr_Drooom"]

[QUOTE="AntiType"]By making it FREEUssjTrunks

Free = you get what you pay for = crap

Free PC Online > X-Box LIVE



pc online is a lot easier to maintain, the resources are there... for console gaming, if you dont pay, it is crud... and you know it

Yeah, playing WoW and Everquest 2 are free! Cool, lets all play WoW all day long with no fees!

That's 2 games. In order to play anything on Xbox Live it will cost you

it moots the point all pc gaming online is free....

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[QUOTE="hd28guy_basic"][QUOTE="dbzfreak"][QUOTE="hd28guy_basic"][QUOTE="Scottydooo"][QUOTE="AntiType"][QUOTE="Dr_Drooom"]

[QUOTE="AntiType"]By making it FREEonslaught460

Free = you get what you pay for = crap

Free PC Online > X-Box LIVE



pc online is a lot easier to maintain, the resources are there... for console gaming, if you dont pay, it is crud... and you know it

there's NOTHING to "maintain" on xbox live for the gamer.....

pc gaming is not easier than xbox live noob..

unless you think you can join a game by pushing one button like you can in xbox live...:)

UT2K4, I just point and click to join a game.

that's one... only 500 to go...:)

You can use xfire or gamespy....pretty much all the features of xbox live right there. For free too.....

"pretty much" doesn't cut it....:)

xbl still better..

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#10 hd28guy_basic
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to be honest, a lot of those features wont be exploited to a relevant degree on the 360.

and to be honest some more, part of the reason why, is, because a lot of features arent wanted....

yes, sure, there will be the opportunistic poster that will disagree with me, but, nevertheless, XBL only has 2 million subscribers, im betting all they want to do is play their damn games online.

Sony, is going to let developers create their own interface for consumers, and let each developer customize how they want to interact with the players......DLC/payments/etc.

i can see how some people might see XBL as being superior due to features, but all i want to do is play my games online, im not looking to be super social and in depth on my PS3, why would i want that on the 360?

Burnadube

spoke like someone who's never had xbox live...

it's crack....once you start.. it's impossible to see gaming w/o it....

i feel bad for the cows claimimg the ps3 online is "free" when you just admitted developers/publishers will charge.. then again, they will have to to offset the cost of creating their online features and servers....

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