[QUOTE="Dencore"][QUOTE="subrosian"] Dencore's argument is an absolute rambling mess based on cherry-picking games that failed to say "see - look - these games can't be harming the Wii's library, they're not succeding".
Yet look at the eight most successful games on the Wii - Wii Play, Wii Sports, Twilight Princess, Mario Party 8, Warioware, Super Paper Mario, Red Steel, and Raving Rabbids... does that really paint a hardcore library to you?
What's hardcore? The topic here is that THIRD PARTIES are making most of their profit from traditional games and not casual games.
'm not putting a value judgement on it - but the Wii's library is predominantly casual / non-traditional titles, with a few core titles succeding because of the support from longtime Nintendo fans. It's also a system absolutely dominated by first party titles.
Is that a joke or something? I posted that hte traditional third party games are outselling the casual third party games. Stop making stuff up.
Dencore's hate-filled rant is nothing more than cherry-picked "facts" that leave out any numbers which contradict him. Basically, he's pointed at other system said "see, they have bad games too, and hardcore titles fail! hahahah!" and yet on the Xbox 360 the vast majority of the million-sellers have been hardcore titles, whereas on the Wii these titles represent a minority.
Umm how many of those are "third party" one third party on there is traditional while one is "casual".
Dencore is wrong in saying that hardcore gamers are not the focus of anyone - obviously Microsoft's third parties are keen to cater to them, and he's wrong in simply using negative, deceptive facts to try and support some personal bias regarding the Wii. Frankly, I'm extremely dissapointed in the Nintendo fans who buy into his brand of argument.
Worse, the TC has no respect for the people who respond to his posts, I see no point in debating further, not because Dencore is correct, but because his eyes are completely closed to a viewpoint beyond his own, and he lashes out with hatred towards anyone who wants a calm discussion. When the TC wants to talk respectfully, and can summarize the points he's trying to get across, rather than pointing at some argument and saying "I'm 100% correct, and you're a moron for questioning me" - I'm but a PM away.
subrosian
You just summarized the most patheitc argument. You claimed the third party casual games are outselling the core games when they aren't. Learn to read.
Which is something you cannot disprove. The 360 is a hardcore-focused system, so obviously *someone* is focusing on the system - the majority of the games on the system are hardcore, and the third parties there are focused on hardcore titles. The audience that buys the Wii has a different taste in games than the audience that buys an Xbox 360.
But yes Dencore, you blast anyone who uses the big picture to prove you wrong, you insult anyone who replies, and you dismiss arguments that contradict your own narrow point-of-view. I'm done here man, your disrespect towards your fellow gamer is absolutely unacceptable. If you really care about someone's opinion other than your own, feel free to talk to me in private.
And Nintendo fans who support this, I'm dissapointed - I thought you could champion your point of view with some manners.
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