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#1 aces_are_high
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well what are they doing?4residentevil4
or better yet-what is being done to them?...:o
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[QUOTE="aces_are_high"]are we dealing with some perverted collector pedophile here?......Attunnel
Who doesn't discriminate by the way. Oh, the world is becoming a much more tolerant  place.

yep..that man deserves a prize....a complimentary gift bag?....
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are we dealing with some perverted collector pedophile here?......
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ninja vox...i cannot present my disappointment from your,obviously, ignorant stand towards this conflict..... just a clarification to the rest of you-israel does not stand it's ground due to biblical prophecies,israel is democratic,israel is secular...good day....
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#5 aces_are_high
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[QUOTE="nbtrap1212"][QUOTE="AngelB1ack"][QUOTE="I-C-E-D-I-E"][QUOTE="AngelB1ack"]

Palestine = Terrorists :x

Israel = Terrorized

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You might want to just stop posting in this thread.

You might want to go back to school and read a book for once.


Yup. Most people don't know that Israel was a nation long before Islam even existed.

Are you familiar with the term diaspora? You see, after the Roman invasion of Filistine, the Jews were scattered. Arabs had of course been there, that being their native land, and Jews were originally Arabs as well, however were given a distinctly different ethnic identity both by the diaspora and by religion and culture. Arabs have been there for hundreds and hundreds of years and it seems silly that the Jews should want it back after something like 2,000 years.

:lol: the arabs originate from the arabian peninsula......-they moved in the the rest of the middle east during the great arabian invasion...jews are not arabs-egyptians were not arabs there were no arabs in the area of israel when the roman empire conquered it...
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nothing within my info has contradicted anything said by me(and you will probably bring up the 50% issue-it did turn to ABOUT 50% prior 1948..)-i have not misquoted or misread anything in this debate... some of your points ,however,(the jewish purchasing of land was made after the founding of the state sort of rubbish) HAVE been disproven....

i do not present myself to be the highest authority over the subject i do ,however, am noticeably more educated than you are on this topic-made for proof by your historical errors(see above)-i have taken middle-eastern history classes-true.....which rather present me with an edge......while you dwell with unconcequental issue of precentage and if the policy was or wasn't implemented(when it is not the issue under discussion-the british bias with ww2..)

you agreed with the tc-and claimed israel has no existence rights....due to several mis-informed claims-i say BS....

good day.....

dsmccracken

You are unbelievable. Still with this 50% stuff, read your own material, by 1948 = 32% is not "about" 50, how can you say you have got nothing wrong?! I wouldn't have had to point out unimplemented policies if you hadn't brought them up as some sort of big point in the first place, geez, you made an entire post just for that one hyperlink! What you mean with the british bias I'm not sure... do you mean it was the original argument (it wasn't) or that it was my argument (it wasn't that either)?

right.....>_> what argument?-you never had any ...you somehow claim israel shouldn't have existed-which reeks of ignorance...you have shown no factual information to base your claims(that the pallies had more claim for the land than the jews....)-and no background knowledge over the events...and what you constantly do is shove this to a personal spot. you,even, somehow managed to press bush into this debate -this discussion is over.....
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[QUOTE="aces_are_high"][QUOTE="dsmccracken"] I like how you post the wiki link, then insult me for actually reading it and using it to show your misquoting of it. Hilarious. I'm sorry for believing we were talking about things in history that actually happened, and not things that almost happened. Talk to me on matters of actual consequence.... no, actually it's funnier if you keep talking about abandoned policies with no real world impact. There is a whole website full of laws still on the books that are no longer followed, yet are "OFFICIAL." Like no paying to dance on Saturdays (maybe Sundays?) in England. Care to discuss the import of those momentus decisions?dsmccracken
it was not an insult....i'm sorry you feel as hostile to the exterior world...i was merely suggesting that you read up(since i cannot provide you with online material-i don't get info off the web)-while commenting on the anti-zionist policy taken by the mandate with ww2.......-it didn't 'almost' happen-it did......the fact that ww2 and international pressure sent this policy to hell(where it belongs)-means absolutely nothing for it indicates the bias of the british regime.... you take this too seriously-i merely find it insulting you state a jewish state has no right for existence-especially when even the PLo and fatah movements recognize it(though in a skewed fashion..)- i'm glad you have no input regarding world affairs.....

To be more accurate, you have provided info off the web, info that has contradicted what your points, yet you've used it to support your points, very confusing. You allude to a large depository of books (using some sort of substance you call "wood") presumably sitting in your library of a living room, surrounded by your many degrees in Middle Eastern Relations, all of which support your argument if only this wasn't a web discussion. You have me saying that I don't support a Jewish state, though where I said that I can't seem to recall. If it was during this thread, someone must have stolen my password and edited it out of existence. I think everyone should have a home, just not where someone else, innocent to the whole affair, is already shacking up. You misquote me, you misquote your own sources.... in other words, a triumph of modern debate. Is your last name Bush?

nothing within my info has contradicted anything said by me(and you will probably bring up the 50% issue-it did turn to ABOUT 50% prior 1948..)-i have not misquoted or misread anything in this debate... some of your points ,however,(the jewish purchasing of land was made after the founding of the state sort of rubbish) HAVE been disproven....

i do not present myself to be the highest authority over the subject i do ,however, am noticeably more educated than you are on this topic-made for proof by your historical errors(see above)-i have taken middle-eastern history classes-true.....which rather present me with an edge......while you dwell with unconcequental issue of precentage and if the policy was or wasn't implemented(when it is not the issue under discussion-the british bias with ww2..)

you agreed with the tc-and claimed israel has no existence rights....due to several mis-informed claims-i say BS....

good day.....

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[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="aces_are_high"][QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="aces_are_high"] it did in fact have a political meaning for the area was governed as one.....(by the turks as well as others..) but ,really,does it matter?-was there a flaw in the partition plan?-jewish sovereignity where jews lived and arab sovereignity where arabs were?...........was the brutal assault by all arab nations justified?.no....the un decided the jews have as much right for nationality as every other ethnicity.......-holocaust or no holocaust...this was bound to happen-for the jewish presence was growing...any arguments made against it are ill-informed.....

See, nothing is bound to happen until someone encourages it and makes it happen. Again, if Israel's traditional location was modern day Sweden, would any of this still have happened? Do you actually believe the UN would have decided that "the jews have as much right for nationality as every other ethnicity" if ancient Israel had been somewhere in England? Get real.

but the ponit is ancient israel WAS there...and nobody had a right to exclude the existence of a jewish state...especially after the myriad attempts at jewish settlements elsewhere..(argentina,the russian-chinese border,uganda..) all failed due to anti-semitism,rigid population and none-suitable locations........ it would have been different,also, if the palestinians actually had a claim to nationality and sovereignity when the zionist settlement began-it did not........

Sure, ancient Israel was there, no doubt. And I live where native Canadians once dwelled. And the Angles and the Saxons once lived elsewhere too, and more recently than ancient Israel I might add. Ancient claims are less than meaningless, unless you have a vested stake in making them meaningful and the backing to make it happen, regardless of the 50 times similar claims are rebuffed as ridiculous.

but you have the zionist settlement to rely on fro claim...that still exists......which purchased land,built,readied land and struggled to thrive in israel-while the adjacent arab population had no will for sovereignity-and by the time it did-zionism was well on it's way....... one could claim,by your reasoning, the palestinian claim-is also ancient,and therefore, meaningless...who is to say 60 years differ from 2000....? this has nothing to do with ww2-it was an instigator...and final proof of the neccessity of the jewish state....
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I like how you post the wiki link, then insult me for actually reading it and using it to show your misquoting of it. Hilarious. I'm sorry for believing we were talking about things in history that actually happened, and not things that almost happened. Talk to me on matters of actual consequence.... no, actually it's funnier if you keep talking about abandoned policies with no real world impact. There is a whole website full of laws still on the books that are no longer followed, yet are "OFFICIAL." Like no paying to dance on Saturdays (maybe Sundays?) in England. Care to discuss the import of those momentus decisions?dsmccracken
it was not an insult....i'm sorry you feel as hostile to the exterior world...i was merely suggesting that you read up(since i cannot provide you with online material-i don't get info off the web)-while commenting on the anti-zionist policy taken by the mandate with ww2.......-it didn't 'almost' happen-it did......the fact that ww2 and international pressure sent this policy to hell(where it belongs)-means absolutely nothing for it indicates the bias of the british regime.... you take this too seriously-i merely find it insulting you state a jewish state has no right for existence-especially when even the PLo and fatah movements recognize it(though in a skewed fashion..)- i'm glad you have no input regarding world affairs.....
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[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="aces_are_high"] it did in fact have a political meaning for the area was governed as one.....(by the turks as well as others..) but ,really,does it matter?-was there a flaw in the partition plan?-jewish sovereignity where jews lived and arab sovereignity where arabs were?...........was the brutal assault by all arab nations justified?.no....the un decided the jews have as much right for nationality as every other ethnicity.......-holocaust or no holocaust...this was bound to happen-for the jewish presence was growing...any arguments made against it are ill-informed.....

See, nothing is bound to happen until someone encourages it and makes it happen. Again, if Israel's traditional location was modern day Sweden, would any of this still have happened? Do you actually believe the UN would have decided that "the jews have as much right for nationality as every other ethnicity" if ancient Israel had been somewhere in England? Get real.

but the ponit is ancient israel WAS there...and nobody had a right to exclude the existence of a jewish state...especially after the myriad attempts at jewish settlements elsewhere..(argentina,the russian-chinese border,uganda..) all failed due to anti-semitism,rigid population and none-suitable locations........ it would have been different,also, if the palestinians actually had a claim to nationality and sovereignity when the zionist settlement began-it did not........