Keep this thread alive fellas, I'd love to keep discussing it. I have to go do something outside real quick. I'll be back in about 15-20 min.

[QUOTE="The_Versatile"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

Anyway, the CAUSE of anything popping up on the screes was the result of the battery hitting it, is because you felt like picking it up, and letting it go, directly over the keypad. The REASON that anything, in this case a number 5 showing up on the screen was a result of the laws of nature (the force of gravity) directing it to strike the 5 key, as it did. Without the reason (gravity) I could have let go of the battery and have it hit nothing, as it could have just floated around without hitting anything. See how the reason and the cause are NOT seperate? ;)

Nope. Gravity is the cause. My decision was the reason. Gravity isn't a reason. It's an undeniable fact, thus it is a CAUSE. I could lie about my decision though. If one was to assume I did it purposely, it could only be classified as a REASON.

Once again, I disagree. A thought leads to an action, ergo a thought is a cause, not necessarily a reason.

Anyway, the CAUSE of anything popping up on the screes was the result of the battery hitting it, is because you felt like picking it up, and letting it go, directly over the keypad. The REASON that anything, in this case a number 5 showing up on the screen was a result of the laws of nature (the force of gravity) directing it to strike the 5 key, as it did. Without the reason (gravity) I could have let go of the battery and have it hit nothing, as it could have just floated around without hitting anything. See how the reason and the cause are NOT seperate? ;)LJS9502_basic

Nope. Gravity is the cause. My decision was the reason. Gravity isn't a reason. It's an undeniable fact, thus it is a CAUSE. I could lie about my decision though. If one was to assume I did it purposely, it could only be classified as a REASON.

By the way Mr. Dictionary, synonymous means similar or related, not exact.

Fat and overweight are synonymous, but they can also mean two different things.

[QUOTE="The_Versatile"]Lesson of the day. I have a battery in my hand. I will drop it on my numeric keypad. Let's see what happens... 5 OK, it landed right in the middle on the 5 key. The reason (the why) a 5 ended up on the screen is because I felt like dropping a battery on the numeric keypad. The cause (the how) of the 5 ending up on the screen was because I released my grip on the battery and let gravity take over from there. You're welcome. Class dismissed. :)LJS9502_basic

The reason your key is broke is because you dropped a battery on it. The dropped battery caused your computer key to break.

Yep...same meaning.

It's not broken... :roll:

Anyway, the REASON anything even had a chance of popping up on the screen as a result of a battery hitting it, is because I felt like picking it up, and letting it go, directly over they keypad. TheCAUSE of anything, in this case a number 5, showing up on the screen was a result of the laws of nature (the force of gravity) directing it to strike the 5 key, as it did. Without the cause (gravity) I could have let go of the battery and have it hit nothing, as it could have just floated around without hitting anything. See how the reason and the cause are seperate? ;)

P.S. - Definitons in dictionaries change over time, as society evolves and gives new, more, or less meaning to words. But then again, you're a guy who also thinks the bible is infallble, so I guess I'll never get through to you...

[QUOTE="The_Versatile"]Lesson of the day. I have a battery in my hand. I will drop it on my numeric keypad. Let's see what happens... 5 OK, it landed right in the middle on the 5 key. The reason (the why) a 5 ended up on the screen is because I felt like dropping a battery on the numeric keypad. The cause (the how) of the 5 ending up on the screen was because I released my grip on the battery and let gravity take over from there. You're welcome. Class dismissed. :)BlueBirdTS

Well, not really. I could say that the fact that you felt like dropping a battery on the keypad is an extension of the cause and that there is no reason.

I'm not going to put down drugs, because I think it's the person choice to do them. And some drugs we need, like the ones in your medicine cabinet.

1) Serial Killers
2) Pollution
3) Fast Foods

acidicadis

Although if this was a list about pet peeves, I'd agree with you 100%.

[QUOTE="BlueBirdTS"]

[QUOTE="Hungry_Jello"]

1. Condoms

2. Weed

3. Porn

These three things are bringing down society.

Hungry_Jello

How is that bringing down our society?

Because now everyone and their grandma thinks its ok to have sex whenever. People should wait until they're married so that we have less abortions and orphans and etc.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

[QUOTE="danwallacefan"]Foxhound, there always has to be a cause for things which dont exist necessarily.

Do you understand the massive epistemological problems that pop up when we say that the principle of sufficient reason isn't necessarily true?

LJS9502_basic

Reason is the why, cause is the how.