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Blizzard would never agree. Doubt Valve would allow it either. They're not trying to prove which game is better they don't care, but if you were ever to reach high Elo in a competitive game you'd understand hat Overwatch is not competitive.

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@swatleader: Give top CS:GO players a week and they will have these pros whipped. CS:GO, DotA 2, League and Starcraft 2 are completive games with high skill caps that are competitive games. Overwatch is too simple and too hand holding.

This League is paying out for those players currently but it's not looking promising for those teams that have a 20 Million Dollar buy in. The game may be popular but when the entire player base is casual players, they won't care about esports.

I've been at the top part of completive games. Diamond in League, LEM in CS:GO and Master Tier in Starcraft 2. I know what competitive gaming is, and even with all the spam about their new League in the client the numbers aren't pleasant for the investors. Blizzard can pay shills to promote it all they want but it's a joke, and with Overwatch numbers going lower every month it's going to get worse. The game won't last like League, CS:GO or DotA 2. Starcraft 2's death was the game was too hard for most folks, it was for me, that's for sure and I was at the top. But the other 3 games I listed are old as hell and still popular.

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Nobody cares about a competitive league for a casual game. This is like competitive Mario party, it just don't matter. Leave the competitive scenes to games that take a degree of skill, not this "stand on square and spam projectiles" stuff. Fun game, not competitive.

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If the game took any degree of skill this League might be successful, but when all your players are casual they won't care about competitive in any form. The game is just too easy to be competitive, there is no skill floor.

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@justerthought: So Temporal Anti Aliasing and Motion Blur aren't on PC? Cause I can use those on almost any game. And I do unless it's a more competitive game like CS:GO. The 30FPS being different on console is plain wrong. Unless the animations are set to be played at a certain FPS it'll always look better high. 30FPS is 30FPS. You've never rendered anything if you really believe that.

Most of your claims sound like you're trolling. I really can't tell but you need to read more about these kinds of things before you add your input on matters. It's just wrong. Dev's can optimize a PC game but the console is going to be more optimized. Same reason software runs better on Mac's or IOS stomps any other mobile device by huge margins. Set in stone hardware is going to be 100 times easier to develop for.

I have a PS4 and Uncharted 4 looks fantastic I agree. It's easily the best looking game I've played so far, even over anything on PC. The art style is just so awesome that I can ignore certain washed out textures. Graphically Uncharted 4 is the king. I own a PS4 for a reason and it's those awesome exclusives. My PC however does everything else. Destiny 2 runs like a dream on PC. It's a perfect example of the difference you see on PC. Something like Overwatch showed small differences but graphically it's not super impressive. My console friends adore my constant 155 FPS (fast sync with a gsync monitor) but it looks really the same as console. They didn't push the limit at all for that game. Destiny 2 however they thought those pre rendered cutscenes were a huge step up from the game, then they saw my PC run it. Those pre rendered cutscenes look like trash. Capped at an ugly 30 FPS (that looks the exact same if I were to compare it to PS4 footage) and it just looks worse in general than the rendered game. FPS can be spikey but is generally above 100 and as long as I'm above 100 it's super smooth.

PC is the ideal for me because I can't stand ugly frame drops and washed out textures and mandatory settings. I'm converting more and more people I meet to PC gamers. My state (Alabama) has always been an Xbox state since the 360, and even before then on the Xbox, but I'm getting people left and right to jump ship. If you care about looks don't bother with these console upgrades. Get a real upgrade and save that PS4 for the Last of Us 2.

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@slypher9: Flawless for me isn't 30FPS. Even at 2k these machines still will struggle with shadows and CPU reliant features like grass.

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@khanwashere: Most console gamers I know download their titles. You have to install the whole thing to the super small Hard drives anyways. I use disc because PSN downloads are slower than molasses, and Steam and Blizzard have me spoiled with decent download servers. Xbox downloads might not be bad, I wouldn't know because I've never bothered with Xbox, seeing as it has no games worth justifying the price. The Switch and Playstation 4 have some stellar titles and more coming but the Xbox, well anything it can do my PC can do but 100 times better so why have an Xbox?

Also Steam refunds are allowed and Steam's family sharing let's me share my library so I can share if I need to. No setup is perfect but for me, I want the highest quality experience and money isn't an issue so I go PC primarily until an awesome PS4 exclusive comes out.

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@angrycreep: That's fine for you, but you're not in charge of everyones wallet. Personally I think the Xbox One X price point is fine if it does 4k. It won't be the quality settings of a PC considering how much they're going to have to trim with that awful processor and the GPU is not even close to what the top tier GPU's are. But it'll look better than what the PS4 Pro can output.

My problem with the Xbox One X is the same issue I have always had, is the lack of exclusives. Now my PS4 may be collecting dust as we speak for months but at least I feel justified owning it, knowing I'll have The Last of Us 2 coming out next year. When it comes to Xbox and deciding if I should buy one, it's always seemed to me that anything the Xbox can do, my PC can do but 10 times better. If people want upscaled "4K graphics" for 500$ they'll find it on the Xbox One X, and I hope they're happy with it.

As for you being content with a 250$ that's fine too. I have the iPhone SE because I'm not one for spending too much on a phone as well. But others don't have a Mac at home to text from and make calls from when they're home, or an Apple Watch to do things on the fly while out. My Phone is just sort of a cellular key for my other devices but some people only have their phones, so they need to go all out on it and 1000$ in a phone is less than I've spent on other devices to use for entertainment. Different strokes for different folks.

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@kaminobenimizu: It's similar to how Mac OS went about. It was Mac OS 8, then Mac OS X was announced, and Mac OS 9 released later to bridge the gap. Maybe that's their process? It's not X, on the presentation they call it the "Ten" but it's labeled X. Really awkward but oh well.