Really, strongly disagree with Tom about the characterizations. And I don't know where Tom gets the idea that Joel does anything shadier than working the 3rd shift at wherever he works. Tess, for me, was very sympathetic. Warm and fuzzy? No. But Sympathetic? Yes. Also, strongly disagree with the notion that TLOU's post-societal vision is "Ho-hum". Perhaps it IS similar to other post-societal visions, but maybe, just MAYBE, Naughty Dog went the direction it did, is BECAUSE IT'S LOGICAL?!? McShea seems to have either a)made up his mind to dislike the game, before he played it, or b) is simply a Troll.