@zombieweekend: yeah bumpers are slightly close. i haven't found them that useful though (unlike the triggers which are a bit more of an issue). I have PS4 and Xbox One, and the xbox one controller feels better. For fighting games actually the old Xbox 360 controller gave me a little bit of an ache for some reason after several hours in the middle. The new controller form fits the palm more possibly because of the narrower top. both are vastly improved controllers. Everyone whose come over say the Xbox One controller feels better, and presses buttons better (not to mention looks better). (it should be given the time and investment MS spent on it) I'm waiting for Capcom to release a Street Fighter game on PS4 to really test out which D-pad is better.