Miyamoto on Wii, new side project

  • By Walt Wyman, GameSpot
  • Posted Aug 22, 2006 11:24 am PT

Mario creator talks to the Japanese press about his involvement in a museum installation and explains why Nintendo decided to "destroy the paradigm" of the games industry.

The Japanese site Nintendo Dream is currently running a huge interview with Mario creator Shigeru Miyamoto. In the first part of the interview, Miyamoto discussed his recent work and feelings on the overall direction of the games industry.

Interestingly, some of Miyamoto's recent handiwork can be found not in a new game, but a museum. The gaming luminary was involved in developing interactive exhibits for Shigureden, a high-tech museum in Kyoto Japan devoted to Japanese culture. The museum allows visitors to play a Nintendo DS version of Hyakunin Isshu, a traditional card game based on famous poems. Regarding such nonstandard uses of gaming gear, Miyamoto was enthusiastic: "I'm interested in entertainment in general--I like aquariums and art museums that have interactive exhibits. When the topic of Shigureden came up, I immediately wanted to work on it... I'd always wanted to try using the DS in public spaces, such as museum exhibits... Since Nintendo has no plans to get involved in such attractions, I suggested to [former president Hiroshi] Yamauchi that we try it at Shigureden." Miyamoto also hinted that he will work more on this project, promising "this isn't the end."

The DS popping up in places like museums is perhaps not all that surprising, considering the system's popularity in Japan. Miyamoto attributes this success directly to Nintendo's corporate principles. "We have always done what we think is right," he said. "We're often told that the world doesn't work based on 'what's right' alone, and this is certainly true. Nonetheless, Nintendo has always seriously and steadily done the right thing; we felt this would pay off eventually, and I feel that [the DS's success] has redeemed us."

Miyamoto also emphasized the importance of staying in tune with the outside world, saying, "If you're on top, you get spoiled and surrounded by cheerleaders. A few years ago, people were saying that Nintendo had slipped off top place. But actually the game market itself had lost touch with the real world; this offered opportunities to the one who noticed first."

Regarding the question of what direction the game industry needs to take, Miyamoto said Nintendo's response is summed up by the company's catchphrase, which translates as "providing enjoyment, from five to 95." Miyamoto elaborated. "Of course we're not rejecting current games, but an increasing number of people don't want to play games because they're hard, and a lot of people think games are irrelevant to them."

Miyamoto also expressed some irritation with the industry for not questioning why users have grown indifferent to gaming hardware. "Instead, people in the industry ask, 'Will simulations catch on after the RPG boom?' 'What genre is the game play?' 'Who made it?' We've lost site [sic] of essential enjoyment, which is the basis of gaming. In developing the Wii, we asked ourselves once more, 'What kind of game console do people want in their homes?'"

The result of Nintendo's soul searching was the streamlined design and now famous Wii controller. "It's nonthreatening," Miyamoto said of the system. "Our larger theme was to make something that wouldn't intimidate women and nongamers when we showed it to them."

Attracting nontraditional demographics is not Nintendo's only reason for the radical simplification of the console and in particular its controller. "We think that game designers, including us, have hit a dead end. It's assumed you will develop for a given environment, and [the developers] don't know what they should make. To break out of this stagnation, we first have to radically change the paradigm. We have to try destroying [the paradigm] ourselves, and see what is born out of its destruction. If this cycle isn't repeated, nothing new will be created... We decided to base a product around [this idea] and offer it as a challenge to the game designers of the world. So, although I don't reject today's games, if we don't do this sort of thing, no new forms of gameplay will appear."

254 Comments

  • Fiku42

    Posted Aug 27, 2006 8:20 pm PT

    I like the idea of nintendo wii. A console for everyone. i got a good slogan for the nintendo wii how about "Wii will rock you!" lol

  • boocreepyfootdr

    Posted Aug 26, 2006 6:04 am PT

    Destroy the paradigm of the games industry? Revolution? All marketing ploys, but some crazy fun Raving Rabbits is all I ask for!

  • osheamo

    Posted Aug 26, 2006 5:56 am PT

    I think the wii remote is a cool idea. I just hope game developers make full use of its functions. eg. DS

  • spermahare

    Posted Aug 26, 2006 2:30 am PT

    GrimBee. Regarding your statement
    "man, fps games are going to be extremely sweet on the wii.. im so excited"

    The games or game demos that have been the most trouble-some so far are FPSs. On E3 Metroid Prime 3 was reported (by Gamespot as far as I remember) to be quite exact in movement as long as you held the controller on one level (I'm guessing the vertical level). As soon as you changed position with your hands the game started acting weird and you had to find that old position for your hands.
    Other reports state the same. FPS isn't as optimal as one might think. I even remember one person asking for a game that locked the hair cross in the centre of the screen, but you all know that that won't work.

    The games that so far are impressing are those that you play in a way that does not replace a mouse on a PC. Or as Mr_BodyWave stated:
    "I don't really believe that you will be able to use it that well for pointing (like a mouse or something)."
    So far Wario Ware, Wii sports and Mario Galaxy are those games that have received the most positive responses. Red Steel, Metroid Prime and even Elebits have all been given a chilly reception. But if we're all lucky someone will crack the problem in a not-to-distant-future.

  • -Ophiuchus-

    Posted Aug 23, 2006 5:16 pm PT

    Does anyone know about any translated version of this interview?

  • kalniel

    Posted Aug 23, 2006 2:06 pm PT

    Mr_Bodyware, I think the point is that we shouldn't even be at a point where we have to face a 5000th goblin - where's the fun in such repetition?

  • Mr_Bodywave

    Posted Aug 23, 2006 10:55 am PT

    GrimBee--See, I think the remote will become seen as "gimmicky". I might be wrong--hell, there is a good chance of htat--but that is my gut feeling. I think I believe this because I think the novelty will wear off. After a few months of playing with it, I don't htink users will see it as awesome as they do now. (of course Nintendo fans will, but they aren't enough to grow the platform). Plus, I just don't think it will be fun to swing your sword at the 5,000 goblin and will in fact get old. But hey--I am a cynic.

    Plus I don't really believe that you will be able to use it that well for pointing (like a mouse or something). Sure, it might work fine for pointing to a few choices on screen, but I just don't bleieve that it would be useful for something like circling your troops in a RTS for group movement or combat orders or whatnot.

    I really see a lot of game shoehorning the remote into gameplay where it doesn't really belong or adds very little. As for the pricing--I really think they should debut it at $250. They are going to sell out no matter what--so why not get the $$. Then once supply catches up (sometime in the spring)--they can lower the price at E3 to $200.

  • twilight-X

    Posted Aug 23, 2006 10:44 am PT

    Miyamoto and Nintendo rocks

  • Fitipali

    Posted Aug 23, 2006 9:50 am PT

    Grimbee you rock! I love nintendo

  • sk1

    Posted Aug 23, 2006 9:04 am PT

    Way to go Miyamoto. Best of luck on a successful Wii launch!

  • Konfusion

    Posted Aug 23, 2006 8:23 am PT

    I like that catch phrase. mweheheh.

  • GrimBee

    Posted Aug 23, 2006 7:49 am PT

    Thanks mr bodywave I can imagine the classic controller becoming a very popular item aswell, Its very simple design too, and i hope they release a huge variety of colours for it!

    The wii remote, some people regard it in the same way as, say, a dance mat. But just because it seems like a gimmik, it doesnt meant that it IS a gimmik. Good point made saying "now can you imagine a game console where that was the main input device for EVERY game?". thats what i meant before, but i never said it that great lol. I think people are dissing the wii because they think that every game will be like a quick fix dance mat game, or games like buzz or things like that. But the wii remote is an absolutely stunning device, from what I have seen so far.

    You can use it like a steering wheel (end of sonys new pad's features)

    It rumbles (hahaha, sony said they removed it because it was interupting the gyripoff feature?)

    It has depth of sound, this gives the controller a unique ability to make a sound (i can imagine this being used a lot.. hey, if you had 4 controllers.. you could basically have 5.1 surround HAHAAH.. now THATS an idea.. LOL)

    It knows exactly where it is in the room, meaning the gameplay posibilities are freaking a sweet. It knows where it is facing, how far away it is from the screen etc. And also..

    You can use it as a pointing device

    AND, you will be able to insert it into other devices. Making other peripherals relatively cheap to purchase seeming that the remote will do all the work.. i guess..

    But you dont HAVE to stick with this controller, as you will notice, with all the thousands of backwards compatible games you will play on the wii.

    And never forget that the classic controller is not limited to that of the virtual console. So in other words, you have one great console which plays pretty much everything out of the box. You have one unique controlling device (which is FAR more superior than just a dance mat).. man, fps games are going to be extremely sweet on the wii.. im so excited!

    Heck, to soften peoples fears.. the wii remote would be awesome for real time strategy aswell, because you would POINT to your units instead of drag a mouse or boringly push a slow analog stick..

    At the end of the day, its these things which i love about the wii -

    1) the price being cheaper than any next gen on the market

    2) the unique and exciting new ways to play old and new games

    3) the virtual console

    4) the free internet service and connectability with the ds wifi

    5) the endless possibilities of what new games could come out next.. someone could release a standard style control game, someone could release a "knife stabbing sim".. lol.. someone could release simply an old style nes or arcade game..

    Everything about the wii for me is so positive. The ps3 and xbox all have some downsides like the price, or the lack of truely awesome games to NEED to play.. and what you get for your price..
    for me there is hardly anything negative i can say about the wii. And miyamoto's statement above is FAR more exciting than Kaz hirais ps3's announcements like "blu ray this.." and "blu ray that.."

  • Mr_Bodywave

    Posted Aug 23, 2006 7:19 am PT

    GrimBee--yeah the dance pad for DDR is a good example of a unique interface being popular. Now can you imagine a game console where that was the main input device for EVERY game? How quickly would that die out? I bet one of the best selling accessories for the Wii will be a "regular" gamepad.

  • hemakm3

    Posted Aug 23, 2006 7:19 am PT

    I agree

  • noamattd

    Posted Aug 23, 2006 7:09 am PT

    He's right, though. So many people I know (especially my wife) avoid games because they're too hard to get used to. But she loves simple, easy to pick up stuff like Wario Ware and Katamari Damacy. She's excited about the Wii because it looks fun, and not the PS3 because to her, PS2 = too many buttons and motions and combinations to memorize.

  • GrimBee

    Posted Aug 23, 2006 6:56 am PT

    Here is a point that people REALLY forget.. and that is the wii is DESIGNED to be great for DEVELOPERS and GAMERS (and non gamers).

    See it this way - The ps3, and the xbox 360 are relatively expensive pieces of kit. For you to really have a unique gaming experience, you would probably have to buy a peripheral of some sort. FPS games ALWAYS need an analog stick for consoles. The pc is designed to be used on a desk (not on a floor etc) and it presumes that you can sit comfortably and play this way (using a mouse etc).

    Consoles are used in such a variety of ways (on a desk, on a floor, in a friends house, in a shop etc) that ONE controller style (say mouse for example) wont be able to cut it. Which is why analog sticks have been around since the sega saturn! Consoles will never get out of their place (living room, bedroom etc). And because games are becoming more demanding and FUN (they have to)... Games are technologically becoming more advanced, and are constantly aiming to offer you new things to do. Which is the whole point of sequels and add ons etc and why sequels sell so well.

    But somewhere along the line, things like SINGSTAR or more importantly DANCE DANCE REVOLUTION.. those simplistic looking, but FUN (and HUGELY popular) games are the ones which end up being churned out all the time.

    If it wasn't for the dancemat, that generation would never of come out.

    Arcade systems are dying out very surely because of consoles, back in the day..tona.. (lol) people were stunned by arcades.. but today, consoles offer a brilliant entertainment medium that all your friends and family can enjoy (which is a lot harder to achieve with the pc and its limited situation (where it is designed to be played etc). But graphics is not enough to sell games.
    The ds has proven this many times over. The psp, although offering far more features and power, is suffering because it is not doing what people really think it should.

    When people "play games", it is usually a case of this -

    1) you read a magazine or hear the name of the game or it is recommended by a review somewhere (or you just thought the box caught your attention)

    2) you buy the game (rent or borrow from a friend)

    3) you get home or a friends house and play it.

    It should never get any more complicated than that, because thats how everything else is. That is what every company strives for, simplicity.
    The ps3 is offering so much, blu ray and all that, so it will cut down on the complexity, and offer simplicity.

    The wii is doing much the same.. but because people demand more from games (now and in the future) it is trying to make sure it is offering these FUN and NEW experiences in the simplist way possible. From the connect 24 service, to the dvd playback, to the full gamecube compatibility (no need to convert saves like with the ps3.. no need to hunt for compatibility lists like with the 360..), the virtual console.. download, play.. and finally, the wii remote.

    For any gamer, the concept of pointing at what you shoot, is a very awesome idea. Cutting, hitting things as you would in real life on a game, seems awesome. But its blending those ideas into a game which makes the BORING and OLD concepts (like golf, like tennis, like baseball..) all the more fun.

    Another thing people forget is that the wii is DESIGNED to be simple. If developers dont want to take advantage of the wii remote, they do not have to. They can simply either make their game control (with the remote turned sideways like a nes pad) OR use the classic controller setup.
    Just because the controller is there, it does not mean that developers NEED to use it all of the time.

    And this is why i really like what nintendo are offering. In all, they are offering you both a standard way to play PLUS a new way to play, right out of the box.

    The resident evil series was failing because of the old tried and tested system. The series was being slated for this.
    all of a sudden, resident evil 4 gives you a new way to play, and everyone sees how awesome it is. Same concept (shoot zombies, collect ammo and items), but just more interactive and fun to play.

    The reason why gta was so great every series was because it offered you MORE to do every time.
    So for this reason I can see why nintendo want to make the controller such a success. Not to make it a standard way to control, but to offer a new direction to go.. one which wont need to to buy this adaptor, or buy this dance mat, or buy this light gun, or buy this steering wheel etc. If you want to, you can of course, but what nintendo are offering is the multiple paths RIGHT OUT OF THE BOX, which is why people are getting so excited about it i guess.

    The ps3 is offering great graphics, and a steering wheel like gyripoff pad. There is only so much you can do with the ps3's gyroscope pad... You cant point it, you cant use it sideways etc, you couldnt use it like a gun.. so the ps3 pad is not offering a new GAME right there.

    Be honest, would red steel really be a MUST HAVE next gen title if it wasnt for the wii remote setup? Would dance dance revolution really be as fun to play if you had to use a control pad?

    People are so afraid that nintendo are saying that you have to be waving your arm around like mad for every game.. i dont see that it will be like this..

    Games are exciting things, its not a film, its entirely different. Mario galaxy, wii sports and all that stuff are games you would have to move your arm round quite a bit with. But this is not a NEW way to control ALL games, it is a new way to PLAY .. SOME.. games the way they should be.

    Some games like football (soccer) would probably have to use the classic controller.. unless of course you can strap the remote to your ankle...
    HEY.. now THATS a neat idea. You see how good it would be for developers?!

    I hope people will see the cool possibilities that you would get out of the wii, and especially for the price it is at! With the ds, i presumed that games would be very crap like MINI games, and i think that people will think this about the wii (and alot of people DO think this way). But the BEST games i have ever played are on the ds. The touch screen SEEMS to be like a gimmic, but once you play things like metroid prime on it, and especially advance wars dual strike, and games like sonic rush (advantage over the TWO screens), i find myself having more fun right there and i didnt even realise it.

    With the wii, i hope that i can just buy games like SILENT HILL and SONIC and MARIO and TRAUMA CENTRE and CALL OF DUTY and HALF LIFE 2 and play those on the wii. I hope that developers will take into account the power of the console (if it is like 2 times that of a gamecube, half life 2 should run just fine) and i really hope that so many people will buy the console, that developers will take their games, and put them on this, faithfully. That way I can see the gaming industry becoming a really awesome one.

    I hate the way that it is becoming merged with the movie and music industry, with the psp i am constantly being made aware of updates and internet and the need for my pc etc. But with the ds, i just turn it on and RIGHT THERE i am into a game within seconds.

    Man, old skool rocks!

  • thisisjosh

    Posted Aug 23, 2006 6:53 am PT

    heheh, "pro gamer". nintendo makes "pro gamers" angwee.

  • GKBeetle

    Posted Aug 23, 2006 5:42 am PT

    vivi_orniter52
    ...And the golden rule is:
    If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all. Peace

    Actually, the Golden Rule is, "treat others as you want them to treat you." Both are very good ways to live. However, sometimes you have to say something that is not nice, as not saying anything may endanger someone or cause a greater wrong to be committed. However, saying someone is an idiot or its equivalent because they don't agree with you on which console is the best, is not one of those cases. The rule about treating others as you want them to treat you, is never a bad idea.

  • ste90

    Posted Aug 23, 2006 3:23 am PT

    I think the idea of trying to make games feel a lil fresh and feel new is needed, maybe not right now but sooner or later we would need this to happen. Games would become to predictable sooner or later and if they can find new gameplay mechanics thats fine but this controller brings new mechanics straight away and for me thats a very exciting prospect. So i dont know why people have said games will be easier people just seem to think that because Nintendo is trying to makes games for people who dont play them. The controller is to invite people to play it but it doesnt mean the game itself will be easier. In other the interface or the controller wont scare them (which i dont think it would usually but if it does fair enough) So if the Wii makes people play gams that didnt play them that is a great thing.
    But people dont look to far into this all Miyamoto is saying was that games are becoming stale in senses which i do kinda agree but this is a good thing because games can become fresh and were all here to see it change and thats cool. So as with the ds the games are neccesarily easier there just more approachable and thats why people who dont play games (why are you not?!) are now playing them. So do not basically make up that games will be easier because im sick of it. Oh and yes games are fun now but i myself would not want to play the same games over and over and mechanics in games nowdays are either a mix of other stuff or a tweak on something, so if a game can feel new because of this controller im totally into the idea and i hope the games make use of the controller and then games will feel different and maybe the release of the Wii will cause a stir because people will want to know if it does what its supposed to do so lets wait and see what happens like with the DS.

  • bobreturns

    Posted Aug 23, 2006 2:33 am PT

    i play gams and have fun i dont know what you are talking about

  • vivi_orniter52

    Posted Aug 23, 2006 2:20 am PT

    Does anybody else remember the time when people used to play games and have fun? Come on people, this is the entertainment industry. You're supposed to enjoy yourself. So many people are constantly bickering about Sony or MS not doing anything innovative and Nintendo just wussing out of the competition. Lets just stop and think: Sony and MS are doing something innvoative. They're creating these incredibly realistic environments that immerse a player in the game. Nintendo is going for a different demographic and allowing those who want to (remember: no one is forcing anyone to play these games) to be able to have more physical involvement in the game.
    Can't people just stop trying to force their opinions on everybody else and let people play whatever console they want? Personally I'm not really interested in the 360, but im not sitting here and verbally abusing all those who don't agree with me. And the golden rule is:
    If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all. Peace

  • PMC11

    Posted Aug 23, 2006 12:55 am PT

    Everybodys complaining about the end of real games due to nintendo, why? Miyamoto sed nothing of the sort, he just wanted to point out that nintendo are also going to concentrate on non-games to get other ppl interested, like ur nan, so whats the problem? Nintendo what to do something completely different which is a dam good thing, cus im fed up off crappy FPS and GTA rip-offs. and another thing, how are nintendo going to kill professional gaming? if you want that get a 360 or a ps3, nintendo is taking a different approach with its console to attract new markets, which i think is a good thing.

  • kungl

    Posted Aug 23, 2006 12:26 am PT

    Dante200X wrote:
    HAHA, i can't imagine how many hours you must have put into SSB:M/Eternal Darkness/mario kartD/RE4 or any combination of them. Those are just about the ONLY games worth playing that aren't on another system (besides RE4 now) and probably done better. Really, that's just sad. You're really deprived if you have all three current gen. systems and play your GC the most.

    You truly are a retard I have a PS2 and a GCN. GCN gets played far, far more than PS2. I have >20 GCN games, only 2 or 3 of which are multiplatforms. And I'm not talking Mario Sports games either. Rogue Squadrons, Fzero, Metroid Primes, Zeldas, Fire Emblem, theres loads of games. This may amaze you, but some people prefer Nintendo exclusives to the third party games that release on other consoles. And Mario Kart DD sucks. Flame me if you want fanboys, but MK64 and MKDS are both better. Other points: Wii is not ignoring the hardcore, Nintendo knows that their fanboys and anyone who regards themself as a hardcore gamer will probably buy it anyway. There aren't enough of them to make it succeed, and thats why we're seeing stuff like Wii Sports. It won't appeal to you or me but to someone who doesn't play games they'll say "hey that looks neat, give me a go". The same person seeing a tennis game in high definition probably couldnt care less. That being said, us serious gamers will still have the awesome deep games, Metroid Prime 3 for example, and by the sounds of it, a bunch of new IPs Nintendo is working on. Look to DS for a representation of what Wii games could be like, you have some 'non-games' like Brain training and some proper games like Metroid. Nintendo is by no means going back to ye olde style gaming, but trying to find what made those games fun - pure gameplay that could be enjoyed by all. Finally, graphics: Graphics is not the holy grail of gaming. Yes, it is important. But not $600 console important. Games like Wii Sports look like crap on purpose, because its cheap and simple. Such games will be sold at a budget price and will probably be rarely played by hardcore. But thats not who theyr aimed at. So stop whining. Zelda and Metroid and Mario and everything else will still have awesome graphics. Not 360 awesome, but do I, or most other Wii-planning-to-buy-ers care? no. I agree with Miyamoto. Graphics have reached the point where they don't really improve gameplay any more. Back in previous generations it did, with better framerates, 3d objects actually resembling real things, and more characters onscreen and such. Play Zelda Ocarina of time now for the first time and its low res graphics might disappoint, but the gameplay will make you keep playing. Play NinetyNine Nights and you might be wowed by the graphics but from what I hear the gameplay sucks arse. Finally again, sure Nintendo didnt invent touch screen, analogue, rumble, motion sensor, etc. But they WERE the first to succesfully implement and mass market them for a console.

  • s0l0123

    Posted Aug 23, 2006 12:19 am PT

    Awesome read.

  • mhder

    Posted Aug 23, 2006 12:17 am PT

    MoodyFlame
    oh good god, what has become of this world, will it be that one day i will pick up metroid or zelda, and it will be so easy i could finish it in an hour so that non-gamers will not be intimidated by difficult games? will it come to this? huh nintendo?!

    Easy to play, not to finish.. or is that concept beyond your limited thinking?

  • Fallout_red

    Posted Aug 22, 2006 11:44 pm PT

    ... And Nintendo is going to destroy all the pro gamers with Wii. Really, as a pro gamer I dont want that kind of games Wii is giving. Nintendo is destroying the "pro gamer" term with likes of DS games and endless Mario sequels. The game industry has lost touch with the real world right? MGS, Halo, Resident Evil, Devil May Cry were bad for gaming while endless Mario and Zelda sequels were not? In the days of Nintendo nobody knew games but now even hollywood directors are going for games, Spielberg, Carpenter, Wes Craven and everyone's favorite Clive Barker (Undying).

  • Payback7

    Posted Aug 22, 2006 11:31 pm PT

    VIVA LA NINTENDO!!!!

    I LOVE YOU!!!!

  • marioman50

    Posted Aug 22, 2006 11:30 pm PT

    "...something that wouldn't intimidate women and nongamers..." HAHA, women.

  • csanjuro

    Posted Aug 22, 2006 11:16 pm PT

    Great Graphics don't do a good game, good ideas are

  • arnoldx04

    Posted Aug 22, 2006 11:05 pm PT

    Miyamoto SAVE US FROM OURSELVES! ~ thanks

  • MoodyFlame

    Posted Aug 22, 2006 10:57 pm PT

    oh good god, what has become of this world, will it be that one day i will pick up metroid or zelda, and it will be so easy i could finish it in an hour so that non-gamers will not be intimidated by difficult games? will it come to this? huh nintendo?!

  • ItsNotAllGood

    Posted Aug 22, 2006 10:57 pm PT

    Miyamoto is a pimp, and hes pretty smart too.

  • mophead

    Posted Aug 22, 2006 10:44 pm PT

    Dear Hitomo, you're not too smart, are ya? You must thank God for the day that Mortal Kombat was released and all of the "non-gamers" stopped playing games. Why do you believe that it would be a bad thing to broaden the market a little bit? Why do you not want more chicks to play video-games? Why do you think it would be a "Nightmare"? Are ya gay Even so, if we broaden the market, more homosexuals will play, too. I wouldn't mind getting raped (not literally) by a gay guy in "Red Steel". And i DEFINENTLY wouldn't mind playing co-op with my girlfriend. Video gaming doesn't HAVE to be isolating, it just is because of how the Developers made then. Video-Gaming doesn't have to be unsocial, but, once again that was the choices of the companies. Now, the games can become the opposite of those things, it'll be like watching a movie with your friends (But, apparently, ya got a problem with that, too). Imagine meeting a girl at an arcade and playing games with her, a tad more fun than shopping, wouldn't ya think?

    And when you tell me the Nintendo isn't innovative, you must be crazy, look at the facts man, each one of those "resamples" (e.g. Mario, Zelda etc)is good enough to get another "resample". Why do you think that is? Because there's always something new about them. Enough new things to keep everybody, who liked the first, going. I ask you, if you wrap a chocolate bar with paper that says "Chocolate" on it, it's chocolate, right? But, if you wrap a chicken wing in paper that says "Chocolate" is it still chocolate?

    Finally, when you think about what you just said, all you're saying is that the game companies will do the same thing for the same people over and over again. Hmm, well, wouldn't that mean that they would only get the same amount of money over and over again until they make so little of a profit that they bump up the prices of games until everybody who used to pay for their games are turned away cause it's so expensive. Or would it be smarter to get a MUCH larger amount of people to pay the same amount as the old consumers, while also keeping the old consumers, therefore, making bucketloads of money?

    Listen, Hitomo, before you look at a thesaurus for big words, before you think of a crappy anti-social argument and, most of all, before you try to act smart...use some common sense. Sincerely,

    Mophead

  • Mr_Fluff_

    Posted Aug 22, 2006 10:39 pm PT

    hitomo, it's a good thing you don't run the gaming industry or else we would all be very, very bored about now. Oh, and i agree with everything that Dkg has posted in this thread.

    As a PC gamer, there was no reason for me to get consoles since they all do the same thing, but now we have the Wii and DS, something different and fresh. And when i badly need good graphics, i'll go back to my computer.

  • CaptainDingo

    Posted Aug 22, 2006 10:36 pm PT

    "again its mario, again its zelda"

    And again it's Halo, again it's Metal Gear Solid, again it's Resident Evil and again it's Grand Theft Auto.

    They're all good games, and all three companies have a franchise they milk the heck out of. So what was your point, again?

    Oh that's right, you don't have one. There's nothing any more gimmicky about a new controller than there is about playing the same exact games you were playing this gen except with a better coat of paint. I mean, if you want to simplify what Nintendo's doing as a gimmick, I figure I've got room to say that.

  • firebreathing

    Posted Aug 22, 2006 10:34 pm PT

    Nintendo may be rehasing games, but look at current next gen games.........you guys are up to the double digits in Final Fatasy for christs sake, Metal Gear Solid 4, Halo 3. I love it how people critisize nintendo for this when everyone else is also doing the same thing No one is really doing anything new so just get over it. Nintendo may be coming out with a more interactive solution for gaming but it's nothing no one has done. It may have more advanced hardware, but it's nothing really new. so how about we quit bashing each other and just enjoy the games/consoles for what they offer

  • ghsacidman

    Posted Aug 22, 2006 10:33 pm PT

    Nintendo noticed people were loosing interest in games and decided to put everything they have into going in a new direction. If Wii is good, we could see the renaissance of the video game market.

  • thepeter

    Posted Aug 22, 2006 10:33 pm PT

    Miyamoto is clearly a god.

  • Chainblast

    Posted Aug 22, 2006 10:28 pm PT

    hitomo, no one really does anything "new".

  • reformedgamer

    Posted Aug 22, 2006 10:16 pm PT

    I love what Nintendo is doing. It's taking what everyone loved about DDR and Guitar Hero and is implementing it in every game. Interactivity has one true word in there: "activity". You can't tell me that every gamer is dying to be a lazy bum. Technology isn't just how a game looks, but how a game plays. I can give nothing but high regards to Nintendo for looking at this appropriately. Go Big N!

  • hitomo

    Posted Aug 22, 2006 9:56 pm PT

    stop the discussion, Nintendo is milking the costumers with nothing more than Gimmicks. with the Wii they stoped to participate in the actual game.industry. instead they invented some machine with wich they can resample and use all the old games and ideas again and again ... again its mario, again its zelda ... its a paradigm HA ... you are so blind, sorry guys they just dont do anything new, they will sell you the same stuff again and again, like the DS, just start thinking, remember the myriads of gameboy-versions? its a joke that that company is concidered to be inovative or creative - the best game I played from nintendo in the last years was METRIODRIME (something new?) wich was developed in america...

    all the high-tech will lead games to nothing more than being playable movies like and as boring and repeating as we already know them from cinema now, and the highest interactivity will lead to nothing more than highly adictive realms wich will provide exellent ways to escape from reality

    and hey, what a nightmare... gaming-girls ... thats an urban-legend
    videogaming is unsocial - video-gaming is isolating = TRUTH
    but its fun... and you can earn a whole ass of money with them nower days
    if gaming starts to get near physical work or activity it stops being fun !
    (swinging a sword, waving persistence pattern, dancing/acting like a moron in front of screen/camera or even holding a light-gun) okay, start growing an intelect and see it as it is - marketing

  • Game13a13y

    Posted Aug 22, 2006 9:50 pm PT

    and this is the reason why i still support Nintendo and will remain a loyal Nintendo fan till the end, you can see how their devotion and integrity for the industry left and right, even though some stupid fanboys said GC is a failure, but for a company with such deep history, of course there would be some mistakes that they made. but comparing to the great things they did, those mistakes are just so tiny. stupid fanboys, wake up and be appreciating what Nintendo have done !!

  • MajinGannon

    Posted Aug 22, 2006 9:42 pm PT

    puppiemaster wrote:
    I have all the present gen consoles and I can honestly say that the PS2 gets played the least and my gamecube the most. Its all about the individual and their likes.

    Dante200X wrote:
    HAHA, i can't imagine how many hours you must have put into SSB:M/Eternal Darkness/mario kartD/RE4 or any combination of them. Those are just about the ONLY games worth playing that aren't on another system (besides RE4 now) and probably done better. Really, that's just sad. You're really deprived if you have all three current gen. systems and play your GC the most. ======================================================================================================================= Actually I also have all current Gen consoles along with a 360 and my GC gets played the most. There are far more games worth playing on the cube by the way. Most of which are exclusive titles : P

  • Dkg

    Posted Aug 22, 2006 9:41 pm PT

    Neo_Strife100, And what exactly are MS and Sony doing that's "new"?
    please do tell. And don't Say Xbox Live b/c No, that's NOT new.

    elie05, you're an idiot

    Virtual Boy = Failure
    3DO = failure
    Jaguar = Failure
    Sega Saturn = Failure
    Philips CDi = Failure
    Ngage = failure
    Gizmondo = Failure
    GameCube =/= Failure. Not in the least Sense. Hopefully now you realize what it means to be a failed console, or are you still blinded by your own stupidity?

  • Neo_Strife100

    Posted Aug 22, 2006 9:38 pm PT

    Silly Nintendo fanboys. Acting like Nintendo is the only one trying new things. So ignorant.

  • elie05

    Posted Aug 22, 2006 9:36 pm PT

    They haven't always done what is "right". Look at the failure that is the GC.

  • Dkg

    Posted Aug 22, 2006 9:35 pm PT

    I agree. How many more Football games can we make before we blow our brains out. Or how many more generic FPS games must we endure before the next breakout hit comes along. Sure there will be some new games here and there with some great gameplay and ideas, and I'm glad that MS and Sony are keeping it tradtional, but I'm also glad that Nintendo is trying something different b/c after all these years of gaming I'm really looking forward to something different.

    Thank Goodness for Nintendo being the only ones with balls to try something like WIi and DS.

  • MrPuzzlez

    Posted Aug 22, 2006 9:35 pm PT

    I wonder how Nintendo will do VoIP?

  • Taegukki

    Posted Aug 22, 2006 9:31 pm PT

    Good article.

  • phSychO_AtDawn

    Posted Aug 22, 2006 9:23 pm PT

    Nintendo is truly the only Video Game console Maker on the Market now.

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