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EA settles OT dispute, disgruntled "spouse" outed

Publisher will pay $14.9 million to programmers for overdue overtime; identity of blogging "EA spouse" that brought matter to attention revealed.
By Tim Surette, GameSpot
Posted Apr 26, 2006 10:57 am PT

In late 2004, Electronic Arts was tainted by the public revelation of a class-action lawsuit that asked for unpaid overtime to "a good number" of EA employees. The suit contended that several EA employees were not paid properly for long work hours--EA claimed they were exempt.

Jaime Kirschenbaum vs. Electronic Arts was filed earlier that year on behalf of many of the company's graphic artists. Kirschenbaum was, at the time, a member of The Sims 2 team. The suit was settled last year for $15.6 million.

The matter really came to the forefront of the media when a blog post by someone who claimed to be the spouse of an EA employee ripped into EA for unfairly treating its workers. The blogger compared working at EA to being incarcerated, making note of time "off for good behavior" and describing a typical workweek as stretching from 9 a.m. to 10 p.m, Monday through Saturday.

Though the blog post had no legal firepower behind it, its description of an EA widow hit the heartstrings of fellow "EA spouses" and employees. The words were simply a personal account of what one person was going through, but they rallied a movement among employees against EA, which the blogger described as a "money factory."

A few months later, a second lawsuit against EA came to light representing EA's engineers and programmers, also seeking unpaid overtime wages. The lawsuit was brought on by Leander Hasty, an engineer from EALA who claimed that he and fellow workers "do not perform work that is original or creative and have no management responsibilities and are seldom allowed to use their own judgment." In short, Hasty claimed he and others were simply part of an assembly line.

Today, EA is settling Hasty's suit to the tune of $14.9 million, which will be divided among "former and current [EA] computer programmers." In addition, EA is reclassifying nearly 200 positions as eligible for overtime pay--however, they will no longer be given stock options.

The proximity in timing of the suit's filing and the blog post are more than simple coincidence. In the wake of the settlement of the EA engineers' class-action lawsuit, the San Jose Mercury News today revealed the identity of the "EA spouse" that helped EA employees bring their matter to the courts. Mercury reporter Nicole Wong posted an interview with Erin Hoffman, who, until today, had remained anonymous. Hoffman is the formerly disgruntled and current spouse of Hasty, the first plaintiff in the EA engineers' class-action lawsuit.

Hasty resigned shortly after his contract with EA expired, and he and Hoffman moved to Troy, New York, where they both work at independent developer 1st Playable Productions. Hoffman has since started the Web site GameWatch.org, a forum where game-industry workers can openly discuss their employers' operations.

Though Hoffman and Hasty had their differences with EA's policies, one company edict wasn't ignored--EA's old motto of "Challenge Everything."

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soulcalibur7

I've been to EA's main studio in Redshores, pretty nice facilities, they offer everything from a cafeteria to a child care center which is unusual since most game companies are smaller and don't have as many benefits, however, I have also heard from fellow classmates that end up there that you have no creative direction, which sucks for any artist.

Posted Aug 16, 2007 2:11 pm PT
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goldeneye_basic

colbster "They drove the James Bond franchise into the ground. Assclowns."

They sure did. As you can tell by my nick, I like Goldeneye. I'm also pissed that they have that exclusive deal with the NFL.

Posted Jul 26, 2007 11:00 pm PT
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nth1739

gFORCEFAN hit the nail on the head. Typical engineering positions do not pay overtime. I work as a design engineer (non-gaming related) and do not receive compensation for any work past 40 hrs a week. I wouldn't hold it against EA that they don't pay overtime since most large companies use the same pay policy for their engineers. However an employer can abuse this situation and it sounds like that may be the case at EA. Best advice for those entering the work force is talk to other company employees before you agree to accept a position. Don't be afraid to ask blunt questions like, do you like working here? Do you like your hours? What don't you like about your company?

Posted Jul 26, 2007 1:43 pm PT
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Gforcefan

Many employees in many different industries don't get overtime. You receive a flat salary - usually with possible bonuses or stock options, etc. Lawyers (associates), doctors, most engineers, management positions, creative artists, writers, etc. We get a flat sum no matter how much we work. That is why they are taking away the stock options. They are being re-classified as hourly employees.

Posted Jul 26, 2007 12:11 pm PT
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EarthThatWas

Could someone please explain to me how an employer can be exempt from paying overtime? Sounds like EA is the Walmart of the gaming world.

Posted Jul 26, 2007 11:33 am PT
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GrayHalo

I stopped calling any thing from EA software, to me its all disappoinment-ware

Posted Jun 27, 2007 4:29 pm PT
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colbster

They drove the James Bond franchise into the ground. Assclowns.

Posted May 24, 2006 12:51 pm PT
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Robinvd

EA cant make games. Stupid EA only wants to see people buying there games. and thats why i hate them

Posted May 21, 2006 9:28 am PT
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pyth0n13

tha's what they deserve

Posted May 11, 2006 5:46 am PT
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Fuuuuureakkkk

So thats why catwoman sucked

Posted May 10, 2006 8:15 am PT
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Flimsyfishy

this article makes me not want to be absolved by ea... oh well, it will be work when i graduate in 3 years for game design

Posted May 8, 2006 12:27 pm PT
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RockMan-NEO

man man man...the only games that are good for me are Fight night round 3,
Def Jam: Fight for NY, and burn out revenge. It seems that all the other games that came out realy really suck!

Posted May 4, 2006 2:19 pm PT
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GPSnake03

lol

Posted May 3, 2006 1:21 pm PT
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BonelessBone

EA has finally opened its eyes and ears.

"So EA treats thier programmers like crap. Mabey that's why thier games suck so much."---delusional696

Haha, I concur. Although Black was alright.

Posted May 1, 2006 2:37 pm PT
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mierdahp

We should boycott EA!!!!

Posted Apr 30, 2006 10:17 pm PT
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mierdahp

I wonder why so many people still buy games like NBA of FIFA Soccer every year or why they buy them at all.

Posted Apr 30, 2006 10:16 pm PT
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Chedda925

Corporate people suck when really the regular man do the work

Posted Apr 30, 2006 8:50 pm PT
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00Rambol00

EA do my head in..... these developers workin their asses off an EA treats them like poo

Posted Apr 29, 2006 5:58 am PT
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PR3D4TOR2

huh ? i like burnout revenge on xbox360 ^^ i dont think they really sux hehehehe
well i didnt play many games of ea company but i think the burnout game is kewl ^^ keep on

Posted Apr 28, 2006 5:03 pm PT
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masiisam

#### EA there games suck anyways...

Posted Apr 28, 2006 2:15 pm PT
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Night_Frost

Wow...no wonder EA Games suck so much

Posted Apr 28, 2006 1:15 pm PT
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barJerubsheol

yeah EA does suck...but if everybody keeps bying their sucky games just cause they recognize the names nothings gonna change...seriously everybody should just buy up the competitions products....STOP BUYING MADDEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it sucks anyways...espn 2k5 was better than madden 06....and by the way..shame on the NFL for being a freaking sellout...thats my two cents

Posted Apr 28, 2006 11:55 am PT
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Deepfreezed

EA does suck big time.

GameSpot could do more to help with this situation. They should be harsher on ports and mediocre games. When doing hands-on or previews, tell the truth rather than going around it.

Posted Apr 28, 2006 11:39 am PT
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geoffclark

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Posted Apr 28, 2006 8:47 am PT
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alabaster46

Has anyone had any good experiences working with a video game company? In light of this conversation, it seems that 'EA sucks and Video Game Publishers are money hogs,' but has anyone had any good experiences with the game industry?

To add my comment about the article, I think that what EA did is terrible and if they are still treating their employees like this, they are going to end up like Interplay... Bankrupt

Posted Apr 28, 2006 8:30 am PT
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PatlaborAV98

well physichally and mentally they are exhausted not only that but theres more pressure from managers and stuff trying to push thier games out fast which isnt good for the workers

Posted Apr 28, 2006 7:16 am PT
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darknferno12

I don't get how there employees work from sun up to sun down and there games suck

Posted Apr 28, 2006 3:21 am PT
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Mordamir

EA used to make good games, but now it's no more than a Enterprise Behemot

Posted Apr 27, 2006 11:28 pm PT
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cruzroja

Yeah, that was when the game industry actually had money, and even then it depended on the company. What I'm wondering is if these are reasonable suits. 15.6 and 14.9 million, for overtime? Guess everyone's stingy nowadays...

Posted Apr 27, 2006 10:38 pm PT
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DiscGuru101

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Posted Apr 27, 2006 9:49 pm PT
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DiscGuru101

Big companies are treating all of thier key works like rats. Video game companies are no exception. They use to treat them like rock stars just a few years back... =(

Posted Apr 27, 2006 9:48 pm PT
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thekey

I don't know what all that over time was for, because 90% of there catalog sucks. (And so do the games.)

Posted Apr 27, 2006 8:34 pm PT
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i_love_my_ds

Damn..........EA seriuously sucks........hahaha i dont know i just wanted to say that really bad

Posted Apr 27, 2006 6:53 pm PT
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luis7989_7

and they only going to release fifas, maddens, etc. been sucessed by 07, 08, 09, for a thousand years, until they reach FIFA 2941 !!!!

Posted Apr 27, 2006 5:39 pm PT
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luis7989_7

first, the majority of EA´s games are so boring such as the Bond ones, except for EoN, being GoldenEye: Rogue Agent the worst of all. Then there are the boring medal of honor games, and other ones that have poor storylines, poor graphics and poor gameplay, and there is no innovation.

Posted Apr 27, 2006 5:36 pm PT
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luis7989_7

what the hell !!!

Posted Apr 27, 2006 5:34 pm PT
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homiebo

its pretty sad that the EA workers feed up with that for a long time jeez. guess it was time to strike back

Posted Apr 27, 2006 5:25 pm PT
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Mew3692002

Wow once I get into the industry as a game designer I'm not working for them!

Posted Apr 27, 2006 10:38 am PT
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OtterX

I live not too far from the EA Tiberon Studios.... Their terrible business reputation stretches all across the state of Florida. Time after time I hear of stories of a cheap, greedy and coldhearted company that cares little about its employees. Kudos to this wife who got the ball rolling in the right direction!

Posted Apr 27, 2006 9:19 am PT
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miggidy24

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Posted Apr 27, 2006 9:18 am PT
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miggidy24

Chebwa and cal_hooper;

So according to you guy's logic, a woman should just quit her job if she doesn't like to be sexually harrassed?

What EA was doing is ILLEGAL!
Why in the world do you think this is costing them to the tune of millions????

Posted Apr 27, 2006 9:15 am PT
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Cheshie

Yeah no wonder EA's games are so garbage.

Posted Apr 27, 2006 8:43 am PT
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DrKill09

What happened to the good EA of Road Rash and Desert Strike?

Posted Apr 27, 2006 8:14 am PT
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meowthrules

yay...

Posted Apr 27, 2006 8:07 am PT
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Nawras

It's funny how this giant is buying all the other companies but isn't paying its employees.

I think EA is the videogame "Microsoft"

Posted Apr 27, 2006 7:42 am PT
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bildo2020

EA SUCKS! hahaha

Posted Apr 27, 2006 7:41 am PT
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borashed

ea games sucks everyone knows this as a fact yet it sells millions copies of its periodly updated games how is that ???

boycott EA
boycott the evil corporation

Posted Apr 27, 2006 6:33 am PT
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mattdotexe

>>>> (btw....overtime is better than stock options)
depending on the company you work for like Microsoft. Since EA is still growing I wouldn't doubt that in a few years a decent amount of stock with them is going to be worth a helluva lot more than what you paid for it.

Posted Apr 27, 2006 6:02 am PT
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chrisdojo

nice work. ea should have to pay. (btw....overtime is better than stock options)

Posted Apr 27, 2006 5:39 am PT
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CoheedIV

Honestly, how hard is it to take Madden 05 and then tweak it for Madden 06?? Creating the same game every year and not paying people for there work is why EA is getting bigger. Keep paying $50 every year for the same game you morons!!

Posted Apr 27, 2006 4:49 am PT
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