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mate, when you get crap like todays fiasco,..then yup me for one does think it should be free.toz66What was today's fiasco? Sorry haven't been able to go on Xbox Live today.
I think most people who like social online gaming at all would agree that the service is worth it. I mean, I really don't care if Xbox games use P2P connections. It's a service that's easy to use and makes the games more fun.
You could get one $60 game, or you could get a whole year of XBL for $50. XBL is the better value. It's going to make you play your Xbox games longer.
dude you have to look at it from there point of view, there paying for an online service, and for some little 12 year old playing an online game to come on and make the experience bad for you would make anyone think twice about paying for the online, its pretty frustrating, i pay for online but i do get a little annoyed when people ruin the experience for melinkin_guy109
Theres getting to many to mute...its not only 12 year olds either.
I can only wonder how crappy XBL would be without the fee. God it would suck hard. Its way worth it.
Geeez... how many people on this board can't afford $5 a month!?!? You'd have to be a hobo not to afford that. That's like a few cents a day FFS! mr-sheep
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Sure, I can afford it. Yes, I'm forced to pay for it. But I'd much rather buy another game a year than spend money on a service that really should be free.
I'm pretty sure every console has free online besides the 360, so perhaps it's the principle rather than the actual cost. white_sox
Exactly. It's not a matter of if I can afford it. It's a matter of right and wrong. Every other console and system has free online multiplayer. Paying for a P2P service is a complete ripoff no matter how much it costs. It shouldn't cost a dime.
I still don't understand how it is considered expensive. The average cost of a gallon of gasoline in the US is $2.82. A gallon of milk cost over $4 here in Florida. A can of soda from the vending machine here at work is $.65. A movie ticket cost $7.50. It cost $1.00 to play a game of pool. A cup of coffeefrom the Circle K is$1.39. So $5 a month is expensive? How much does Basic Cable cost?
$5a month shouldonly be expensive to someone living check to check or on welfare. If you fall into either of those categories then you probably should get you priorities straight before thinking about gaming. If you think it is expensive because the tooth fairy only left you a dollar under your pillow, your opinion on what is expensive doesn't count.
what part of FREE XBL = PSN dont you ppl understand? please compare the two.Antox-RX8
Dedicated servers > P2P
hey sony and nintendo dont charge for their online service so how come we have to payovc1489
For me im an owner of both systems (PS3, 360) and there is no comparison to how much content the 360 has. The PSN network is horrible in comparison. The demos alone on PSN come out weeks later for one and i wish PS3 would charge just to be up to par with the 360. To the people that complain about todays prvt chat and not logging on to games this is nothing new for the PS3, this happens everday. Honestly this is the 2nd or 3rd time something like this has happend in the past 3-4 years i have had live. To me its well worth it.
For me im an owner of both systems (PS3, 360) and there is no comparison to how much content the 360 has. The PSN network is horrible in comparison. The demos alone on PSN come out weeks later for one and i wish PS3 would charge just to be up to par with the 360. To the people that complain about todays prvt chat and not logging on to games this is nothing new for the PS3, this happens everday. Honestly this is the 2nd or 3rd time something like this has happend in the past 3-4 years i have had live. To me its well worth it.
War_Juggernaut
The stuff you're talking about is free with XBL silver, therefore you don't actually have to pay to get it.
We should be getting dedicated servers for paying, but we're not. We are getting awful P2P servers that are only as good as the hosts connection, often causing lag, where as that never happens with dedicated servers.
For me im an owner of both systems (PS3, 360) and there is no comparison to how much content the 360 has. The PSN network is horrible in comparison. The demos alone on PSN come out weeks later for one and i wish PS3 would charge just to be up to par with the 360. To the people that complain about todays prvt chat and not logging on to games this is nothing new for the PS3, this happens everday. Honestly this is the 2nd or 3rd time something like this has happend in the past 3-4 years i have had live. To me its well worth it.
War_Juggernaut
Thank you!! someone sees it exactly the same way as me!! its just the motive, why work hard to add stuff to your marketplace if your not seeing any profit? its like their playing rock paper scissors to see whos the unlucky one that has to put up the new madden demo? its not just kindness that puts the bread and milk on the table... lol bread and milk
I've been gaming online with console's since the Dreamcast and its dial-up modem. I've been a Gold subscriber since day one. At the time I signed up I owned a PS2 & Xbox. I tried playing online with the PS2, it was too much of a hassle. I had different username and passwords for every game, games were buggy, and there were never any other players online.
Then Microsoft promised me that they had an online service that would give me one username and login, keep track of my friends, give me built in voice chat, and a whole lot more. They gave me a few months for free and I was hooked. They have continued to innovate with their service since then and I'm more than willing to continue to give the $5 a month as long as they keep it up. I would rather ride the cutting edge of an interactive community for a small fee than watch from the sidelines with an inferior online service as it tries to keep up.
If things change then I'll be one of the first to jump ship, I am a consumer after all. But as of today Xbox Live is hands down the best online gaming service available. But don't take my word for it, look at the millions of gamers enjoying the service on a daily basis.
EDIT: And there will always be lag when gaming online, no matter what type of server you use. The laws of physics will not change.
[QUOTE="War_Juggernaut"]For me im an owner of both systems (PS3, 360) and there is no comparison to how much content the 360 has. The PSN network is horrible in comparison. The demos alone on PSN come out weeks later for one and i wish PS3 would charge just to be up to par with the 360. To the people that complain about todays prvt chat and not logging on to games this is nothing new for the PS3, this happens everday. Honestly this is the 2nd or 3rd time something like this has happend in the past 3-4 years i have had live. To me its well worth it.
Antox-RX8
Thank you!! someone sees it exactly the same way as me!! its just the motive, why work hard to add stuff to your marketplace if your not seeing any profit? its like their playing rock paper scissors to see whos the unlucky one that has to put up the new madden demo? its not just kindness that puts the bread and milk on the table... lol bread and milk
Developers would still make sure demos get on XBL because they want you to spend $60 on their games.
My issue stems from being in Canada and accessing XBL. We get no download-able media at all. No movies. No TV shows. Nothing! Not even crappy Canadian shows. So I'm paying about the same as the Americans and they get so much more! They should cut us a break here in Canada or get off their butts and get us some content!GTA_Edm
That's a legitimate complaint, I honestly feel like you (and the guys across the pond) are getting shafted on marketplace content.
of course is worth it, check out the Demos, Betas, XBLA and ALL the content, stats, and applications around XBL...do you think you would get that if it was free ?..compare it to what others have....
People take for granted all they have at hand with XBL.
[QUOTE="GTA_Edm"]My issue stems from being in Canada and accessing XBL. We get no download-able media at all. No movies. No TV shows. Nothing! Not even crappy Canadian shows. So I'm paying about the same as the Americans and they get so much more! They should cut us a break here in Canada or get off their butts and get us some content!daviwinn
That's a legitimate complaint, I honestly feel like you (and the guys across the pond) are getting shafted on marketplace content.
Many here, don't seem to realize that this is an issue for many who are complaining. It's hard to justify spending $60 a year for only the ability to play online.[QUOTE="Antox-RX8"]what part of FREE XBL = PSN dont you ppl understand? please compare the two.BioShockOwnz
Dedicated servers > P2P
have you played warhawk?!!!! i choose a workingp2p service over a bunch of broken dedicated servers
Cant believe people actually compare Xboxlive to that pos PSN, have you guys played on PSN before making comments...and if you can afford a 400 dollar console, TELL ME THAT YOU CANT SPEND less than 5 bucks a month.....
1. Standard headset so almost everyone talks, and fantastic quality on the voice.unlike PSN where its a ghost town and even if someone has a mic they sound like darth vader or squeak like a rat.
2. Tons of demos and trailers, movies, tv shows, music vids, betas through market place. im playing the bioshock and stranglehold demo and the COD4 beta on PSN!!.......oh wait........umm, yeah
3. THERES BARELY ABYONE PLAYING!!! so i go to look for a match on r6 vegas, i could barely find any games, "oh everyones playing warhawk".....???,,,,so is there like 10 people on psn? i can still go on cod2 onlive(A LAUNCH GAME) and find a match in 5 secs
4. NO UNIVERSAL FRIENDSLIST!!!??? are you kidding me. i cant even pull up the so called friend list in the middle of a game, THEN WHATS THE POINT OF THE STUPID "PS" BUTTON??!!! if youre gonna rip-off the 360 guide button atleast do it properly.
5. I cant send cross game invites or see what my friedns are doing or start a chat with them or sent them a voice message in 2 secs, or see their game history or what they have been doing on their ps3....WHATS THE POINT OF HAVING A FRIENDSLIST ON PSN!!???
6. "oh PSN has dedicated servers....." THEN HOW COME SERVERS ON WARHAWK ARE**** ****!!!!!! why do they lower my rank when i try to join or say servers full when it says theres only 8 people in that match and do other BS stuff. sorry but ill take A WORKING p2p service over a HALF BAKED CHEAP EXCUSE OF A SO CALLED "dedicated server"
7. and it takes 7 mins to even enter the psn store and find the item i wanna buy, jumping over all sorts of adds and commercials, and WTF is that bull crap "virtual wallet", first its a hassel to register my credit card, then its a pain to confirm the purchase!!!! wow.....and it took me 2 mins to buy bomberman live....
... i can keep this rant going on and on, but im off to play some COD4 beta (the games awesome BTW) just ,make sure you play on live before making ignorant comments.
and for that useless "its free.." reply, umm yeah, THEY SHOULD PAY YOU FOR USING THAT PATHETIC EXCUSE OF A SERVICE CALLED PSN!!!!
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