Epic To Charge For New Gears of War Content -- Mark Rein, Epic Games

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#1 SPHYNXA
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Well this appears to be the final stance on the saga that is "Microsoft forcing Epic to charge for new content for Gears of War". Mark Rein, in a post over at the Gears of War Forums has just stated that they will be charging for the new Gears of War content, but that it will be done in the same fashion as the Halo 2 map pack. Meaning that you can either pay for the content, or wait a "few months" for it to become free.

"Epic thinks the way to maximize the return on Gears of War is to give the maps away for free and Microsoft thinks the way to maximize the return on Gears of War is to sell the maps. So what we've agreed to do is to put these maps on sale at a reasonable price then make them free a few months later. They did this with the original Halo2 map pack and it was a huge success. Lots of people bought the maps and lots of people downloaded them when they became free. That's what is going to happen and it seems like a fair compromise for both companies and a win-win for Gears players. --Mark Rein

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#2 jet2892
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Well this appears to be the final stance on the saga that is "Microsoft forcing Epic to charge for new content for Gears of War".  Mark Rein, in a post over at the Gears of War Forums has just stated that they will be charging for the new Gears of War content, but that it will be done in the same fashion as the Halo 2 map pack.  Meaning that you can either pay for the content, or wait a "few months" for it to become free.

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SPHYNXA
Kinda stupid, but w.e ill get it free later on
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#3 theoryc2
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I hope its later content that will be charged and not this update were getting very shortly.
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#4 -Zaku-
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Great job MS :roll: I guess they had a compromise. MS can charge for it now but after a set time, Epic gets their way and can have the content made free as intended. Yet people will still 'buy' the content which is only making moves like this in the future more common.
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#5 contaminated
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depends cause mass effect is around the corner and if it goes out on schedule i think that can make me wait.
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#6 SPHYNXA
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I hope its later content that will be charged and not this update were getting very shortly. theoryc2
Apparently according to some of the posts on there Epic Games has had four new maps ready for months, but refused to release them due to Microsoft wanting there to be a fee. So I would guess that this is strictly for those maps, and that the Annex gametype will be included in the free update.
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#7 crazymunda6
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M$ wins once again....When is it coming out then?
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#8 crazymunda6
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My Bad Double Post  :(

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#10 goallie
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I will have no problem waiting for the maps to go free, I haven't touched the games online in weeks.
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#11 SHARPSHOOTER25
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As "evil" as you think this move might be, it makes the most sense.

 

Put yourself in the shoes of one of the top executives of the gaming division of Microsoft. You have a game, that has reached Halo-esque heights in popularity and critical acclaim, and the developers are ready to release more content for it. Being that GoW has sold so many millions of copies, you havea HUGE market just for the download content. With the accessibility of the marketplace, you have an easy to use distributer. You want more money as part of a corporation, and a business's goal is to...MAKE MONEY!

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#12 SPHYNXA
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WTF is M$'s problem? They are a billion dollar corporation, they don't make the games, they have no right whatsoever to force epic to charge for maps. It's downright wrong. Way to make a bad relationship with one of your number one exclusive franchises.bolt2448

Here was Mark Rein's explanation:

"Why does Epic not have control over this even though we created this content on our own time and our own dime?  Quite frankly Xbox Live Marketplace isn't our store.  It's Microsoft's store.  Like any retailer they have the right to figure out what goes on the shelves of their store and what price they sell it at.  They spend the money to operate the store and deliver the conent.  They've also spent billions of dollars to create and build Xbox and subsidize it's the price so you can afford it and we can make games for it.  As our publisher, they also invested tens of millions of dollars marketing Gears of War, and have done an awesome job for us, so they have a right to a good return on that investment"

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#13 bolt2448
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[QUOTE="bolt2448"]WTF is M$'s problem? They are a billion dollar corporation, they don't make the games, they have no right whatsoever to force epic to charge for maps. It's downright wrong. Way to make a bad relationship with one of your number one exclusive franchises.SPHYNXA

Here was Mark Rein's explanation:

"Why does Epic not have control over this even though we created this content on our own time and our own dime? Quite frankly Xbox Live Marketplace isn't our store. It's Microsoft's store. Like any retailer they have the right to figure out what goes on the shelves of their store and what price they sell it at. They spend the money to operate the store and deliver the conent. They've also spent billions of dollars to create and build Xbox and subsidize it's the price so you can afford it and we can make games for it. As our publisher, they also invested tens of millions of dollars marketing Gears of War, and have done an awesome job for us, so they have a right to a good return on that investment"

ok... then i now see there reasoning and I agree with it. Depending on the cost, I may just wait.
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#14 unknown-phenom
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Great job Microsoft. Money-hungry jerks.
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#15 ipath4life
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WTF is M$'s problem? They are a billion dollar corporation, they don't make the games, they have no right whatsoever to force epic to charge for maps. It's downright wrong. Way to make a bad relationship with one of your number one exclusive franchises.bolt2448
ummm....they kinda do have the right to make epic charge for the dlc because they developed Gears of War.Although, for a billion dollar corporation, they are rather cheap.
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#16 bolt2448
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[QUOTE="bolt2448"]WTF is M$'s problem? They are a billion dollar corporation, they don't make the games, they have no right whatsoever to force epic to charge for maps. It's downright wrong. Way to make a bad relationship with one of your number one exclusive franchises.ipath4life
ummm....they kinda do have the right to make epic charge for the dlc because they developed Gears of War.Although, for a billion dollar corporation, they are rather cheap.

look up a lil pal, i changed my opinion now that i understand microsoft's logic, i would do the same thing.
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#17 ipath4life
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[QUOTE="ipath4life"][QUOTE="bolt2448"]WTF is M$'s problem? They are a billion dollar corporation, they don't make the games, they have no right whatsoever to force epic to charge for maps. It's downright wrong. Way to make a bad relationship with one of your number one exclusive franchises.bolt2448
ummm....they kinda do have the right to make epic charge for the dlc because they developed Gears of War.Although, for a billion dollar corporation, they are rather cheap.

look up a lil pal, i changed my opinion now that i understand microsoft's logic, i would do the same thing.

i noticed you chaged your opinion, im not commenting on that.im just saying that they can tell epic to do whatever they want.
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#18 LuigiLogik
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That seems fair.. as long as we don't have to wait too long for it to be free... anything longer then 2 months is too long
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#19 IXIAntiksIXI
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Ill pay for them but they better stop that glitching BS
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#20 RebornInFlames
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I don't mind paying even as long as it is 400 ms pts or less
did they say anything about what the maps are like?
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#21 s3lFc0nTr0l
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stupid M$ and their money
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#22 Cool-AN
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The price better be very low, if they expect me to pay for it.
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#23 VegetaJr
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So much for Microsoft's claims that it doesn't control pricing on XBL, because right there you have Mark Rein confirming it. I love the Xbox 360. It's a great system. I don't think I really care for Microsoft itself very much at all though. I'll wait for them to go free.
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#24 CooVee
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Well I can wait I suppose. I would buy them but I need points and I lack a credit card or a convenient place to buy the cards from.
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#25 Sig12047
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Ugh...this is STILL going on? The update was delayed because of this. It's frustrating and I see where MS and Epic are both coming from, but why not give a little back to your loyal user base? Demanding that they charge for it isnt good for your  rep.
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#26 tumulisy
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ive never bought microsoft points and dont plan to
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#27 SPHYNXA
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Ugh...this is STILL going on? The update was delayed because of this. It's frustrating and I see where MS and Epic are both coming from, but why not give a little back to your loyal user base? Demanding that they charge for it isnt good for your rep.Sig12047
Well they did give those two first maps for free. Don't get me wrong though, I see what you're saying.
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#28 gatsbythepig
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This info is old, we all know this already.  It's free in a couple of months so we don't have to pay for it.
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#29 Rossdaboss777
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Not bad im hoping their like 5$
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#30 jmartinez1983
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Great job Microsoft. Money-hungry jerks.unknown-phenom
LOL, its a CORPORATION, that's what they do. Don't like it? Move to a communist country or something. This, like it or not, is capitalism at its finest.
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#31 SPHYNXA
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This info is old, we all know this already. It's free in a couple of months so we don't have to pay for it.gatsbythepig
Haha! Mark Rein made officially announced it today. But good try...
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#32 nickyb628
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I hope its later content that will be charged and not this update were getting very shortly. theoryc2
Me too, jerks.
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#33 fleasquire
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I just hope they dont put out mediocre maps and charge to much like they did with COD.
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#34 gatsbythepig
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[QUOTE="gatsbythepig"]This info is old, we all know this already. It's free in a couple of months so we don't have to pay for it.SPHYNXA


Haha! Mark Rein made officially announced it today. But good try...


People have been talking about this for weeks and it was already assumed. It seems that you need someone to point out the obvious.
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#35 SPHYNXA
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[QUOTE="SPHYNXA"][QUOTE="gatsbythepig"]This info is old, we all know this already. It's free in a couple of months so we don't have to pay for it.gatsbythepig


Haha! Mark Rein made officially announced it today. But good try...


People have been talking about this for weeks and it was already assumed. It seems that you need someone to point out the obvious.

Talking about it? Assumed? Yup... nothing like good 'ol romors to base your facts off of. Is that where you get yours, gatsbythepig? Epic announced it today, so that's pretty official.
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#36 gatsbythepig
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If the talk and the assumptions were correct sphincta, then it is not speculation or rumor, it is fact.  Since Epic announced it, that only reconfirms what we already knew... but hey, thanks for playing.
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#37 VegetaJr
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Rumors, gatsby, are just that until someone who has some authority speaks on the matter, only now has this happened. It could have gone either way. Seriously guys, find something better to argue about.
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#38 HungryTanner
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Ill probaly pay for the new maps when they come out instead of wait
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#39 perfect-dank-0
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Who cares I stopped playing gears after a couple of days and went back to pdz.

Gears is too simple and repetetive and tps suck.

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#40 DarkBalta_basic
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I agree entirely that it makes sense, and I know it sounds ridiculous but i almost kinda feel for the gaming division at MS... They have spent alot of money and havent made i dont think anywhere near it back.. so its an easy way for them to make money... But i think the 'best' decision would be to do what theyre doing OR make it incredibly cheap. If it was 100-300 MS points id have no argument at all. If they made it something cheap like 100-150, theyd sell to tons of people, while like 400+ is gonna push alot off.
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#41 treyskillz
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like I'm gonna buy the maps if they are going to be free later

I quess I won't return to Gears as soon as I thought

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#42 Rev2221
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ehh i'll take it.

not free at release but it will be free after a couple of months. not bad.

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#43 YoniKunda
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Just more proof that M$ has NO love for gamers. I bet Sony will have free maps for games like Resistance and Warhawk.
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#44 gruntkiller1
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Everyone just wait til it becomes free and they won't do this again