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#1 allnamestaken
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You may remember the good ol' days of the N64 when many multiplayer games including the incredible Perfect Dark, would allow you to place computer controlled opponents in multiplayer matches.

Those days are apparently gone, recent releases like Halo 3, CoD4, Blacksite and others have not included bots and they seem to be fading from FPS games everywhere. I loved playing against bots, to build up my skills when none of my friends were over in the old days and would love to see them reintroduced into the shooter genre.

How do you guys feel?

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#2 grunt1096
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They're dissapearing mainly because of live and other online gaming.
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#3 sarakin
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timesplitters 4....nuff said.

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#4 Z-Bombz
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they were fun especially while practicing on CS
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#5 Dead_Prophecy
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It seems as games have adopted player vs. player online, bots have faded. It personally doesn't bother me because I would never bother to play against bots. But, for the people who do want to play against bots, I don't know why developers choose to ignore putting them in their games.
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#6 nyc05
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Agreed sir, 100%

Bots are sadly missing from most games these days. Obviously with the rise of online gaming the need for bots has dwindled, but I hope that developers change this pattern. I loved loading up tons of bots on the hardest difficulty setting and fighting them all with just me, or like in Perfect Dark Zero, you could play with bots online. Me and my buddy would play against tons of bots together online with the difficulty cranked up and we just drank, played and chatted.

Ahh, good times.

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#7 BLAS1AN
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online gaming is killing bots. hopefully Timesplitters keep ther tradition of bots
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#8 illbitcrusher
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PD0 has bots but that game is just so bleh I think because games are now getting more complex and controllers have much more freedom of movement it just looks out of place for bots to be running around especially as we are now more used to seeing human behaviour. Back in the days of the N64 with the likes of Goldeneye and Perfect Dark, the maps were fairly small and thus the AI was more easily controlled although it was mainly just stand and shoot and the difficulty just meant that bullets would actually head in your direction as opposed to the ceiling on an easier difficulty. I think there are still bots in Unreal Torny games but I think they behave the same as above, run and gun.
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#9 X_GuitarHero_X
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Agreed sir, 100%

Bots are sadly missing from most games these days. Obviously with the rise of online gaming the need for bots has dwindled, but I hope that developers change this pattern. I loved loading up tons of bots on the hardest difficulty setting and fighting them all with just me, or like in Perfect Dark Zero, you could play with bots online. Me and my buddy would play against tons of bots together online with the difficulty cranked up and we just drank, played and chatted.

Ahh, good times.

nyc05

Good times with bots. Timesplitters 2 was a blast to play with a friend by your side, teaming up against a wave of bots.

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#10 Kennyofhearts
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I could care less for bots, therepathetic and predictable like season 6 of Family Guy. If you have LIVE or some freinds you can play against them to improve your skill, it's much more fun than playing against the computer.
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#11 steveslugga
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i think the next gears should have bots, the a.i. is so good in that game that i would have a blast with a couple buddies n some bots, its better than getting whopped by some punk 12 year old IMO
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#12 allnamestaken
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[QUOTE="nyc05"]

Agreed sir, 100%

Bots are sadly missing from most games these days. Obviously with the rise of online gaming the need for bots has dwindled, but I hope that developers change this pattern. I loved loading up tons of bots on the hardest difficulty setting and fighting them all with just me, or like in Perfect Dark Zero, you could play with bots online. Me and my buddy would play against tons of bots together online with the difficulty cranked up and we just drank, played and chatted.

Ahh, good times.


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Good times with bots. Timesplitters 2 was a blast to play with a friend by your side, teaming up against a wave of bots.

Man I cannot believe I forgot about Timesplitters in my original post. That game with bots was awesome! My friends and I, used to this thing called a Timesplitters league, similar to any pro sports league, were you could draft bots, as they all had different ratings and trade them and stuff. Then each player would take themselves and there bot team through a season on various team deathmatch maps. That was so much fun.Man I cannot believe I forgot about Timesplitters in my original post. That game with bots was awesome! My friends and I, used to this thing called a Timesplitters league, similar to any pro sports league, were you could draft bots, as they all had different ratings and trade them and stuff. Then each player would take themselves and there bot team through a season on various team deathmatch maps. That was so much fun.

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#13 unbiasgamer
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yeah, if you dont have live. without bots the game basically ends after the SP is over. not having bots is pretty lame
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If you look at it not that many games really had it. Halo, Call of Duty, Counter-Strike, Doom, and Goldeneye... All games from different times, but all of the never had them (atleast from launch). Counter-Strike is the one game i know now has them (atleast Condition Zero had them, but i really haven't played Source much).

Bots were one thing that really never got to be all that big. Plus with the feature of online multiplayer the use of bots never really got its big chance to. Perfect Dark and Timesplitters are really the only names i can think of off the top of my head that have built mulitplayer with bots more than any other games and that being siad what other games really had bots (shooter genre, so other genres like racers and RTS don't count).

I wish that all games would allow bots in atleast offline mode... That way you could still play multiplayer without live and without it being on live you could have way more bots than people in a game.

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#15 SexyPorkins
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I disagree with the OP. I hate Bots! They are so predictable and will always find you if you are trying to hide, etc.
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#16 steveslugga
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I disagree with the OP. I hate Bots! They are so predictable and will always find you if you are trying to hide, etc.SexyPorkins
What harm does it do though, all were saying is that it should be an option
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#17 Vexx88
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Heck we are a barely getting offline multiplayer anymore...
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Pathetic People!
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#19 Absolutezerr
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I wish there would be a Star Wars Battlefront III on consoles... those games were great and the AI on hard mode were actually interesting to play against.
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#20 xKrayZee
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Check out Unreal Tournament, they have bots. Especially Unreal Tournament III, they can be as difficult as they can be. Since bots doesn't have upgraded health and damage, their accuracy, predictionsand directions seems to be incredibly accurate. Halo 3 would've had bots, but in the official Halo 3 forums, many players keeps denying bots and only accepts player vs player. If I imagined Halo 3 with bots, their difficulty setting would be a range from Easy to Legendary though the Campaign difficulty is purely on more damage and quantities of enemies with '100% accuracy' rather than predicted shots. TimeSplitters 4 will bring bots, obviously and there is no doubt that the bots will play fine on whatever map you're trying to make. I'm not even clearly sure if you could even change the bots difficulty setting from Future Perfect.

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#21 twopic58
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Yeah I wish they had bots. Timesplitters 2 was so fun.
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#22 SexyPorkins
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[QUOTE="SexyPorkins"]I disagree with the OP. I hate Bots! They are so predictable and will always find you if you are trying to hide, etc.steveslugga
What harm does it do though, all were saying is that it should be an option

I guess that most developers think that most of the people who play won't use the bots because they have access to Live, etc.

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#23 afflictatrophy
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i totally agree, bots were cool but now they wont make them so they can have you pay for xbox live its stupid but probably true :(
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#24 wKmike
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I miss the good old bots

I remember Starcraft and their computers.. a 2v6 was oh so fun

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#25 JBucc
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Seems like a good idea. With the more advanced AI they could be more humanlike than back in the day where they just ran around randomly. Plus sometimes you don't want to deal with all the little dorks on live.
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#26 RHCP87
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The bots in PDZ were good for getting achievements against.
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#27 Revelade
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Time Splitter bots were terrible. Even at 5 star they would do things like pause before each shot.

Perfect Dark was a revolutionary game. For a game at that time, it still has more features than many games released today. The bots were incredible.

I have a game called XIII that was overshadowed. It was a great game because it was balanced. It had a great story, online play and the multiplayer had bots! And these bots were quite challenging if you wanted them to be.

Bots are great if you just want to kick back or if you don't have many to play with.

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#28 Broc_Samson
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I really do think they should bring them back. Online play is fun and all but after getting yelled at over your mic by a seven year old who drives your warthog off a cliff for five hours I kind of want to sit back and kill fake people that are more polite than real people... plus its fun to tell the game that its cheating! :lol:
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#29 Xemmy
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i think the next gears should have bots, the a.i. is so good in that game that i would have a blast with a couple buddies n some bots, its better than getting whopped by some punk 12 year old IMOsteveslugga

Real men kow that defeat is inevitable, and embrace it.Even if it's from some "Punk 12 year old"

Anyways, i'm pretty sure that Timesplitters 4 will have bots.Even if it isn't on the 360.

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#30 ArisShadows
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Bots were a quick way to have instant fun by yourself. I miss them so much. Unreal Tournament 3will have them tho.
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#31 TiKRuy
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Indeed i'm so disapointed at fps games on x360 because they didn't have bots (besides pdz)... And it seems we won't be getting any either..

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#32 volcomstoner180
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army of 2 has a different style of multiplay with bots...its 2 vs 2 player match and their are bots that try to attack each team or protect goals, so they arent on either team...its pretty sweet i love it (even tho it got the most biased and crap review on gamespot)

but timesplitter 2 bots...now that was some classic xbox gaming with a friend

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#33 deactivated-5de2fb6a3a711
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i love bots. i had lots of fun with bots in games like Jedi Academy and all. it'd be nice to bring them back.
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#34 PlayaCDubb
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I liked the bots cuz sometimes its fun to play against them with a few friends or even by yourself.
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#35 dojodawg
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James Bond Nightfire.... Good Times

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#36 Agent_Kaliaver
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You speak as if Bots were in every shooter. Most Shooters didn't come with bots and some added them either thru updates or expansion (is consider CS:CZ an expansion). Honestly a lot of games didn't come with them. The games i can remember having them would be Perfect Dark, Tribes, Timesplitters, and........ some other games i probably have never played. Most of those games were massive sellers such as Call of Duty or Halo.

You also speak as if it is news to you that Halo 3 and CoD 4 don't have bots. Those games have never had bots. If a franchise starts with bots there is a very good chance it will keep them like Perfect Dark to PDZ, but if a franchise doesn't start with bots it is much more unlikely that they will get them in the future. Of course Counter-Strike was an exception.

I wouldn't say bring back bots, but more so bring bots.

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#37 HilbillyRokstar
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army of 2 has a different style of multiplay with bots...its 2 vs 2 player match and their are bots that try to attack each team or protect goals, so they arent on either team...its pretty sweet i love it (even tho it got the most biased and crap review on gamespot)

but timesplitter 2 bots...now that was some classic xbox gaming with a friend

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Yea, Army of Two has m.p. bots and they are SMART. So pick it up and quit whining about the "good old days".
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#38 thrones
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They're dissapearing mainly because of live and other online gaming.grunt1096

True, true. But still, it's always fun to go into splitscreen with one other person, and feel like you're fighting a real battle.

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#39 Josepiphus
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I love UT3 for this very reason (among others)... bring on the bots!

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#40 akiraxander
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I liked Red Faction 2 for the fact that you created your own Botts, hope they bring them back in there next game.

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#41 tommat119944
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Agreed 100% aswell. I remember the days of the PS2 and when i played split screen Red Faction II with my sis aginst bots. I found it so fun. Even if online gaming is killing it, it wouldn't hinder the devs much to just add such a small yet effective feature.
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#42 pokemon94
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I also mishaving to people playing online on one 360. It was in Halo 3, but I really wanted it in COD 4
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#44 gullytolwyn
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All of the top tier shooter games have bots... Quake series, Unreal series, most games on Steam like Counterstrike, Team Fortress and whatnot. They would be a cool addition to have in non-ranked games so you could practice against godlike opponents.
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#45 callen3
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By the way, shadowrun has bots.
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#46 Links14
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what about PDZ for the 360???
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#47 Shmiity
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Perfect Dark Zero with bots was awesomeeeeeeeee
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#48 PureDante
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The world has forgotten about Unreal Tournament 3? Red Faction 3? Time Splitters 4?
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#49 Mr_Cumberdale
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Yeah, I'm dissapointing with the lack of bots. It seems like games are taking a step back this generation. I mean come on, adding bots wouldn't be too hard... they've got so much more memory on the disks now.

I really missed bots.. without em, game's would get boring very quickly. Take the Time Splitters series; you can customize the bots in so many different ways that you'd never get bored of the game.

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#50 Gamesmasterx
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Almost every game has a PC mod to include bots, like CoD4, just search PeZBOT on youtube. It's not fair. Now i've got to buy the game for PC just for the one thing I want.