TNA Genesis - January 11, 2009

TNA World Heavyweight Championship
Rhino vs. Sting

The Rematch
Kurt Angle vs. Jeff Jarrett

6-Man War
Mick Foley, AJ S_tyles, & Brother Devon vs. Booker T, ???, & Scott Steiner
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TNA World Tag Team Championship
Beer Money, Inc. vs. Abyss & Matt Morgan vs. Jay Lethal & Consequences Creed

X-Division Championship - The Final Round of the X-Division Tournament
Chris Sabin vs. Alex Shelley

  Knockout Tag Team Match
ODB, Roxxi, & Taylor Wilde vs. The Kongtourage
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Grudge Match
Shane Sewell vs. Sheik Abdul Bashir

Tag Team Elimination Bout
Eric Young, & The LAX vs. Jimmy Rave, Sonjay Dutt, & Kiyoshi
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* - Prediction freebie

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TNEH's new first PPV of the new year, and guess who's on the cover. :)

Discuss this upcoming 2009 PPV in nyah.

TNA is so lame.

But I think everyone knows that already, but I think Rhino getting to face Sting is very dumb, and I think Foley's team will win, and Hemme, will lose, and I can't remember the other matches, so I guess I haven't been watching TNA, but last week was super LAME. IMO

Finalized the card. Should be interesting for the X-Division title bout.

Send in your predictions now. I'm sure we all know who Blackbond is going for in the Tag title match. :P

One match on that card appeals to me (if it takes more than one guess, you clearly aren't paying attention to what I say). Wouldn't be shocked if it goes three minutes before, I dunno, Scott Steiner comes out and kills them both.

Kurt Angle vs Jeff Jarrett is a rematch? Much less "The Rematch." Joe-Angle, that was a "The Rematch." Angle-Lesnar at Summerslam, that was a "The Rematch." Its only a "The Rematch" when the other guys matter. Jeff, you don't matter.

Its hard to believe, but there was actually a time when I loved TNA. How did we end up here?

THE_DUDE, DID YOU GET MY PM A COUPLE DAYS AGO?!  

Anyways, Sabin vs. Shelley should be awesome...SHOULD. They'll be given 5 minutes and will be very very disappointing tho. Shelley will be awesome tho.

So, in matter of weeks, Rhino goes from just step shy of jobber, to the main event of a pay-per-view. Yep. Nothing wrong with that. Nothing at all.

Kurt Angle vs Jeff Jarrett is a rematch? Much less "The Rematch." Joe-Angle, that was a "The Rematch." Angle-Lesnar at Summerslam, that was a "The Rematch." Its only a "The Rematch" when the other guys matter. Jeff, you don't matter.The_Dude14

Its hard to believe, but there was actually a time when I loved TNA. How did we end up here?

The_Dude14

First step was probably not putting the belts on the Motor City way back when they shoudl have. Second step was them having way too many segments and not enough wrestling. Third was Beer Money losig the tag belts.

So, in matter of weeks, Rhino goes from just step shy of jobber, to the main event of a pay-per-view. Yep. Nothing wrong with that. Nothing at all.

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I remember when he was so without a role he was teaming with Taylor Wild against Billy Gun and the Beautiful People.

Beer Money will be bringing back the Gold again. You know what TNA needs? Less stupid segments and more wrestling. And if you're going to have segments can we have more Beer Money segments? Or hell how about my favorite segments. The ones with Royal T in his locker room where J.B comes in.

I guess since they renovated the Impact Zone Royal T lost his sweet pad. Shame shame.

I remember when he was so without a role he was teaming with Taylor Wild against Billy Gun and the Beautiful People. Blackbond

[QUOTE="The_Dude14"]

Its hard to believe, but there was actually a time when I loved TNA. How did we end up here?

Blackbond

First step was probably not putting the belts on the Motor City way back when they shoudl have. Second step was them having way too many segments and not enough wrestling. Third was Beer Money losig the tag belts.

He is referring to TNA 2005...back when it was actually good. The turning point was the SpikeTV deal. Huge decline in quality after that.

He is referring to TNA 2005...back when it was actually good. The turning point was the SpikeTV deal. Huge decline in quality after that. sephy37

[QUOTE="sephy37"]He is referring to TNA 2005...back when it was actually good. The turning point was the SpikeTV deal. Huge decline in quality after that. Link256

TNA 2005 had a "good" heavyweight division after March until the SpikeTV deal. Abyss, Raven, Rhino, Jarret, Styles, Sabu, and Sean Waltman (when he showed up, he delivered).

 Hard Justice had Jeff Jarret in his best match of his TNA career against AJ Styles, Raven winning the title at Slammiversary and the rest of the summer had very good title defenses and even when Jarret returned, he wasn't going after the title right away and was still in good matches (the tag match at Sacrifice comes to mind).

The problems all started with the SpikeTV deal. They took a month off before the debut and during that time, they hotshotted the title to Jarret so he'd have it for the debut. It was retarded and then debut and subsequent injury of Kevin Nash didn't help. The final straw was depushing the X-Division into the lesser division even though up until that point that year, the X Division was the true focus of TNA. 

They also had the completely burnt out and sloppy as hell Jeff Hardy, whenever he showed up in the heavyweight division. The heavyweight division became dead to me as soon as Double J won the belt back from Rhino. That just killed me. I was really excited to see Rhino get this kind of run, as I had always felt he was capable of being an extremely solid contributor. And with TNA's rules (lack thereof) it could have played to Rhino's strength. Plus, he was not a Jeff. Rhino was in great shape, over huge with the Impact Zone (which was why he became the heel turn stepping stone for Christian and AJ) and was just a fresh face. He may not have been the biggest name in TNA (that'd be Hardy), he may not have been the best wrestler in TNA (the X Division) but he was interesting. He was not Double J.

The other huge problem was the X Division title picture became completely about Joe-AJ-Daniels. You had Sabin, Shelley, Strong, Aries, and eventually Low Ki and those guys were never treated in the same league as the big three. It was completely about those three and when they were bumped up to the heavys, the guys that were left were never given a shot to connect with the fans, opening the door for TNA to completely turn the X Division, the thing that seperates them from the WWE, the thing they say they are always going to focus on, into the joke that's not very funny.

Here's mine......

TNA World Heavyweight Championship
Rhino vs. Sting
WINNER: Sting (Pinfall)
FINISH: After someone from MEM interferes (which'll turn into an MEM/Frontline brawl), Sting hits the Scorpion Death Drop on Rhino while his back is turned for the pinfall victory.
INTERFERENCE?: Yes

The Rematch
Kurt Angle vs. Jeff Jarrett
WINNER: Kurt Angle (Submission)
FINISH: Angle will get some help from his fellow MEM members while the ref is down.  He applies the Ankle Lock for a long period of time before Jarrett finally taps out.  (Angle will probably still hold it until it "breaks".)
INTERFERENCE?: Yes

6-Man War
Mick Foley, AJ S_tyles, & Brother Devon vs. Booker T, Kevin Nash, & Scott Steiner
WINNERS: Mick Foley, AJ S_tyles, & Brother Devon (DQ)
FINISH: MEM will utilize some dirty tactics as usual.  While the ref is down, they'll take out Foley.  Then they proceed to use weapons and finishers on AJ and Devon.  The ref will regain consciousness to see what was going on and disqualify MEM, though the onslaught on the Frontline will continue.
INTERFERENCE?: No

TNA World Tag Team Championship
Beer Money, Inc. vs. Abyss & Matt Morgan vs. Jay Lethal & Consequences Creed
WINNERS: Jay Lethal & Consequences Creed (Pinfall)
FINISH: After Abyss & Matt Morgan are taken out on the outside by the flying Lethal Consequences, the tag champs will go back into the ring with Beer Money at wait.  Beer Money will attempt a double-team finisher, but are met with Creed and Lethal's finishers.  Lethal hits the Flying Elbow Drop on one guy from Beer Money to finish it with a clean win.  Morgan is still pissed.
INTERFERENCE?: Yes

X-Division Championship - The Final Round of the X-Division Tournament
Chris Sabin vs. Alex Shelley
WINNER: Alex Shelley (Pinfall)
FINISH: Both combatants know each other very well and will try to bring back what the X-Division really meant.  (No layin' down in this one.)  After a long fight (and maybe a few kick-outs from finishers by both combatants), Alex surprises Sabin with a roll-up pin for the victory in the X-Divsion Tournament.
INTERFERENCE?: No

TNA Knockout Championship - Lumberjack Match
??? vs. Awesome Kong
WINNER: Awesome Kong (Pinfall)
FINISH: Even with some help from her fellow lumberjacks (-jills?), ???'s wrasslin' is no match for Kong's dominating strength.  She hits ??? with a vicious Awesome Bomb for the pinfall victory.

Grudge Match
Shane Sewell vs. Sheik Abdul Bashir
WINNER: Sheik Abdul Bashir (Pinfall)
FINISH: While the ref is down, Bashir continues to mame Sewell with some weapon shots.  While the ref is regaining consciousness, Bashir throws everything out and hits his finisher to put away the former referee.
INTERFERENCE?: No

Tag Team Elimination Bout
Eric Young, & The LAX vs. Jimmy Rave, Sonjay Dutt, & Kiyoshi
WINNERS: Eric Young, & The LAX
FINISH: Eric Young hits his finisher on Jimmy Rave followed by the legal man, Homicide, with a Frog Splash to put away the last guy.
INTERFERENCE?: No

Nevermind.  Christy Hemme's officially out.

Kong's opponent is yet to be determined.

*changes prediction slightly*

Angle vs Jarrett WINNER: Angle FINISH: Angle snaps on the Angle Lock and Jarrett taps, Angle attacks Jarrett after the match.

Rhino vs Sting WINNER: Sting FINISH: Sting pins Rhino after a Scorpion Death Drop after inference by both the MEM and Frontline members.

Foley, D-Von, AJ vs Booker, Nash, Steiner WINNERS: Foley, D-Von and AJ FINISH: Foley uses the manidble claw on Booker and Styles hits the S_yles Clash for the win.

Kong vs Taylor Wilde (ah hell slap anyone on) WINNER: Kong FINISH: Kong's group will knock out the rest of the lumberjills and Kong pins her with the Awesome Bomb.

Shelley vs Sabin WINNER: Shelley (hopefully) FINISH: Sabin goes for the Cradle Shock and after a few finisher teases Shelley hits Sliced Bread #2 for the win and X Division title.

Bashir vs Sewell WINNER: Sewell FINISH: Sewell uses the Floated Over inverted DDT (look at wiki) and a brawl happens between Bashir and Sewell and Suicide (Kaz) makes a HBK-WM rope entrance and breaks it up.

Abyss and Morgan vs Beer Money inc vs Lethal and Creed WINNERS: Lethal and Creed FINISH: Lethal hits the Lethal Combination on Roode for the win.

Thank goodness i came back on for this useless pan of a match.

Young, Shark Boy, LAX vs Kip, Rock and Rave and the other guy WINNERS: LAX's Team FINISH: LAX uses the 5150 for the win, i hope Daniels returns if that's the point of this match to attack Young and Sharky.

TNA World Heavyweight Championship
Rhino vs. Sting

Winner: Sting via pinfall. Interference: Definately.

The Rematch
Kurt Angle vs. Jeff Jarrett

Winner: Double J via pinfally via Guitar. Interference: Yup

6-Man War
Mick Foley, AJ S_tyles, & Brother Devon vs. Booker T, Kevin Nash, & Scott Steiner

Winner: Booker, Nash and Steiner. Interference: yeah, somehow. Bonus Prediction: Foley joins the old men's club.

TNA World Tag Team Championship
Beer Money, Inc. vs. Abyss & Matt Morgan vs. Jay Lethal & Consequences Creed

Winner: Macho Man and Apollo by pin. Interference: Sure.

X-Division Championship - The Final Round of the X-Division Tournament
Chris Sabin vs. Alex Shelley

Winner: Sabin via pin (Cradle Shock). Interfernce: No. Time allotted: Under 10 minutes

TNA Knockout Championship - Lumberjack Match
??? vs. Awesome Kong

Winner: Kong via murder (we'll say pin). Interference: ... Its a Lumberjack match. ... in TNA so no, they won't touch anyone. I'm kidding (maybe). Yes, interference.

Grudge Match
Shane Sewell vs. Sheik Abdul Bashir

... who?

Winner: Shiek by pin. Interference: Why not.

Tag Team Elimination Bout
Eric Young, Shark Boy, & The LAX vs. Cute Kip, Kiyoshi, & The Rock 'n' Rave Infection

Winner: LAX and the lame punchlines by pin. Eric Young is probably the last man standing. Interference: In an 8 man? Sure. I'm kidding, no interference.

TNA World Heavyweight Championship
Rhino vs. Sting

Winner: Sting via Scorpion Death Drop. Interference: Yes

The Rematch
Kurt Angle vs. Jeff Jarrett

Winner: Double J via pinfally via Guitar. Interference: Yup

6-Man War
Mick Foley, AJ S_tyles, & Brother Devon vs. Booker T, Kevin Nash, & Scott Steiner

Winner: Booker, Nash and Steiner. Interference: yeah, somehow. Bonus Prediction: Foley joins the old men's club.

TNA World Tag Team Championship
Beer Money, Inc. vs. Abyss & Matt Morgan vs. Jay Lethal & Consequences Creed

Winner: BEER MONEY!

X-Division Championship - The Final Round of the X-Division Tournament
Chris Sabin vs. Alex Shelley

Winner: Alex Shelly with sliced bread. Sabin's had the belt enough. Wouldn't it be funny if they both won it and we had another Kaz thing with co-holders of a belt lol.

TNA Knockout Championship - Lumberjack Match
??? vs. Awesome Kong

Winner: Kong will crush who ever the stand in person is as Hemme is neck hurt

Grudge Match
Shane Sewell vs. Sheik Abdul Bashir

 

Winner: Shane Sewell by whatever his move is.

KingBond

Well hell.  There's yet another match added to the card.  Leave it to TNEH to post it at the last minute.

It's an 8-man tag team elimination match.  Update your predictions by 8pm ET tonight.

TNA World Heavyweight Championship
Rhino vs. Sting
WINNER: Sting (Pinfall)
INTERFERENCE?: No

The Rematch
Kurt Angle vs. Jeff Jarrett
WINNER: Kurt Angle (pinfall)
INTERFERENCE?: Yes

6-Man War
Mick Foley, AJ S_tyles, & Brother Devon vs. Booker T, Kevin Nash, & Scott Steiner
WINNERS: Mick Foley, AJ S_tyles, & Brother Devon (pinfall)
INTERFERENCE?: No

TNA World Tag Team Championship
Beer Money, Inc. vs. Abyss & Matt Morgan vs. Jay Lethal & Consequences Creed
WINNERS: Beer Money (Pinfall)
INTERFERENCE?: No

X-Division Championship - The Final Round of the X-Division Tournament
Chris Sabin vs. Alex Shelley
WINNER: Sabin (Pinfall)
INTERFERENCE?: No

TNA Knockout Championship - Lumberjack Match
??? vs. Awesome Kong
WINNER: ??? (Pinfall)
INTERFERENCE?: No

Grudge Match
Shane Sewell vs. Sheik Abdul Bashir
WINNER: Shane Sewell (DQ)
INTERFERENCE?: No

Tag Team Elimination Bout
Eric Young, Shark Boy, & The LAX vs. Cute Kip, Kiyoshi, & The Rock 'n' Rave Infection
WINNERS: Cute Kip, Kiyoshi, & The Rock 'n' Rave Infection (pinfall)
INTERFERENCE?: No

Lets see how well this goes considering I havent watched TNA in months

SUNUVA....They changed it again!

Now it's a 6-man tag team elimination match.

You know what.....let's make that match a predictions freebie. :P

Geez.  More freebies might be handed out.

http://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.php?id=35767&p=1

Six-Man Elimination Tag Match: LAX and Eric Young vs. Jimmy Rave, Sonjay Dutt and Kiyoshi

Winner: Hernandez def. Rave via pinfall

Six-Man Elimination Tag Match: LAX and Eric Young vs. Jimmy Rave, Sonjay Dutt and Kiyoshi

Winner: Hernandez def. Rave via pinfallLink256

[QUOTE="Link256"]Six-Man Elimination Tag Match: LAX and Eric Young vs. Jimmy Rave, Sonjay Dutt and Kiyoshi

Winner: Hernandez def. Rave via pinfallrendai

[QUOTE="rendai"][QUOTE="Link256"]Six-Man Elimination Tag Match: LAX and Eric Young vs. Jimmy Rave, Sonjay Dutt and Kiyoshi

Winner: Hernandez def. Rave via pinfallLink256

Leave it to TNA to just kill the ending of a great match.Blackbond

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]Leave it to TNA to just kill the ending of a great match.Link256

Sabin vs Shelly. That ending was stupid.

TNA X-Division Title Tournament Finals:

Alex Shelley def. Chris Sabin via pinfall to become the NEW X-divsion champion

Sabin vs Shelly. That ending was stupid.Blackbond

Otherwise, looks as if you are not the only one. The guy over at 411 covering Genesis was rather "verbal" about it.

GET READY FOR THE BEST TAG TEAM IN TNA!!!!!!

GET READY FOR THE BEST TAG TEAM IN TNA!!!!!!

Blackbond

Shane Sewell def. Sheik Abdul Bashir via pinfall

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]GET READY FOR THE BEST TAG TEAM IN TNA!!!!!!

Link256

Except well that would be a highly ignorant statement as I do not know all the tag teams in the world or over in Japan and what not. There is a difference between being a fan and being a blind fanboy.

Beer Money is currently my favorite Tag Team in TNA and that's my opinion not a fact man.

Wow they really botched that Double Bulldog haha

[QUOTE="Link256"]At the very least, a REAL Beer Money fan would claim them to be the best tag-team in the ENTIRE BUSINESS, and not JUST TNA.Blackbond

Beer Money is currently my favorite Tag Team in TNA and that's my opinion not a fact man.

BEER!!!

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MONEY!!!

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BlackBond laughes at you haters!!!   :lol::lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

WOOOOOOOOOOOOT!!!

Whatever the case, if you are going to post spoilers in the normal threads, make sure to use the spoiler tag.

Whatever the case, if you are going to post spoilers in the normal threads, make sure to use the spoiler tag.

 

Link256

But everyone already knew they were going to win? Next time I just won't create the thread because well yeah that was the spoiler. My fault.

TNA Tag Team Title Match: Consequences Creed and Jay Lethal vs. Beer Money vs. Matt Morgan and Abyss

Winners, and NEW Tag Team Champions: Beer Money (Roode def. Morgan via pinfall)

TNA Tag Team Title Match: Consequences Creed and Jay Lethal vs. Beer Money vs. Matt Morgan and Abyss

Winners, and NEW Tag Team Champions: Beer Money (Roode def. Morgan via pinfall)Link256

I hate how Jarrett kicks out. Its perfect for a heel but as a face it seriously annoys the hell out of me. Because commentators always go on and on about how you have to use your energy to kick out and how it takes it out of you.

But really you don't. 95% of the pins in wrestling you can just lift your shoulder up without moving your body. And Jeff Jarrett does that. The most logical way of escpaing a pin. But in the end its annoying because its just so logical lol.

As a heel I used to always hate watching him do it but that was the point you were supposed to hate it lol. Its like god is magically summoning his arms up to the heavens! haha