Nintendo needed a gimmick to get out of 3rd place?

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#1 Tony-Baxter
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N64 = 2nd place

Gcn = 3rd place

Wii = 1st place

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#2 12345678ew
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yes they did.

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#3 desmondsultanas
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If motion control is a gimmick then why are MS and Sony copying?
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#4 tbone29
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Companies need gimmicks to get places.
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#5 foxhound_fox
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No, they didn't "need" one... but they used one to get out of third. I personally would have prefered they stayed there. They still were making a handsome profit and some stupendous games.

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#6 Dycras
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First, i remember the n64 being in first. Next, ya it did need the gimick, every system needs some kind of gimmick, just like xbox had halo and playstation had blueray.

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#7 Tony-Baxter
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If motion control is a gimmick then why are MS and Sony copying?desmondsultanas
Cause they copy gimmicks? What kind of question is that?
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#8 Cherokee_Jack
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They needed to change their focus. Namely, they needed to focus on the huge untapped market of potential gamers.
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First, i remember the n64 being in first. Next, ya it did need the gimick, every system needs some kind of gimmick, just like xbox had halo and playstation had blueray.

Dycras

How was Halo a gimmick?

And this thread sucks by the way.

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First, i remember the n64 being in first. Next, ya it did need the gimick, every system needs some kind of gimmick, just like xbox had halo and playstation had blueray.

Dycras
Halo was a title, plain as that.
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#11 Cherokee_Jack
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every system needs some kind of gimmick, just like xbox had haloDycras
What's your definition of "gimmick"?
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#12 Tony-Baxter
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[QUOTE="Dycras"]every system needs some kind of gimmick, just like xbox had haloCherokee_Jack
What's your definition of "gimmick"?

Really:lol:
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#13 desmondsultanas
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[QUOTE="desmondsultanas"]If motion control is a gimmick then why are MS and Sony copying?Tony-Baxter
Cause they copy gimmicks? What kind of question is that?

A gimmick implies it has no lasting appeal. If it had no lasting appeal why would its competitors be copying it three years later?
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#14 hakanakumono
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First, i remember the n64 being in first. Next, ya it did need the gimick, every system needs some kind of gimmick, just like xbox had halo and playstation had blueray.

Dycras

Halo is a game and bluray is a media format. They're not gimmicks.

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#15 Nintendo_Ownes7
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The people that said Nintendo needed new Franchises they make new franchises every gen on the GCN they made 8 new Franchises on the GBA they also made alot of new Franchises.

They average about 7 new Franchises a gen for consoles and about 10 a gen for Handhelds.

Also I didn't care if they were in first place or not I liked their games but I'm happy they changed it up because they are still making great games now they are just doing what they've been doing they just changed places.

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3rd place Nintendo > 1st place Nintendo
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#17 Zaistev_basic
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3rd place Nintendo > 1st place Nintendocomeonthehoops
The sales, the overall gamers (casuals included), even the media does not say so. You're thinking is only a thinking of an gamer elitist. Hardcore gamers such as myself and others accept any form of gaming like the Wii.
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[QUOTE="comeonthehoops"]3rd place Nintendo > 1st place NintendoZaistev_basic
The sales, the overall gamers (casuals included), even the media does not say so. You're thinking is only a thinking of an gamer elitist. Hardcore gamers such as myself and others accept any form of gaming like the Wii.

Yeah, it's all good.

=right?

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3rd place Nintendo > 1st place Nintendocomeonthehoops
So you rather see Nintendo burn and rot in a Video Game Museum along with Sega consoles and Atari, rather than see the Wii beat your beloved PS360?
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#20 surrealnumber5
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no they needed sony to put out a 600$ console
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#21 desmondsultanas
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The fact that threads like this are even being made after E3 09 is downright embarassing. Sony and MS needed to copy a "gimmick" to get out of second or third place? /thread
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[QUOTE="comeonthehoops"]3rd place Nintendo > 1st place Nintendohiphops_savior
So you rather see Nintendo burn and rot in a Video Game Museum along with Sega consoles and Atari, rather than see the Wii beat your beloved PS360?

I don't think Nintendo would've burned since they were making a profit off of the GCN they profited off of every one of their systems excpet I think Virtual Boy.

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#23 Zaistev_basic
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The fact that threads like this are even being made after E3 09 is downright embarassing. Sony and MS needed to copy a "gimmick" to get out of second or third place?desmondsultanas
Oh the IRONY! and HYPOCRISY!
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#24 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="desmondsultanas"]The fact that threads like this are even being made after E3 09 is downright embarassing. Sony and MS needed to copy a "gimmick" to get out of second or third place?

sony tried at the start of this gen and its part of why they are in third now
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#25 hakanakumono
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no they needed sony to put out a 600$ consolesurrealnumber5

That was a part of it, but the public was so excited over the wii it really would have been successful even with a competently priced sony console.

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[QUOTE="desmondsultanas"]The fact that threads like this are even being made after E3 09 is downright embarassing. Sony and MS needed to copy a "gimmick" to get out of second or third place?surrealnumber5
sony tried at the start of this gen and its part of why they are in third now

PS3 Sixaxis controller is "what not to do" on making a controller with motion sensing. No wonder it failed. Plus from what I heard before, sixaxis was a rushed controller to counter the Wii during launch. I guess that did not work. Now Sony and Microsoft are making motion sensing ADD-ONs. One without a controller, and the other, a wand.
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#27 creativeminded
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Who says it was a gimmick? I new step in the right direction, yes
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#28 Tylendal
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[QUOTE="Tony-Baxter"][QUOTE="desmondsultanas"]If motion control is a gimmick then why are MS and Sony copying?desmondsultanas
Cause they copy gimmicks? What kind of question is that?

A gimmick implies it has no lasting appeal. If it had no lasting appeal why would its competitors be copying it three years later?

"an ingenious or novel device, scheme, or stratagem, esp. one designed to attract attention or increase appeal." There's the dictionary definition for Gimmick. I don't know when gimmick started being a negative word.
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#29 hiphops_savior
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[QUOTE="hiphops_savior"][QUOTE="comeonthehoops"]3rd place Nintendo > 1st place NintendoNintendo_Ownes7

So you rather see Nintendo burn and rot in a Video Game Museum along with Sega consoles and Atari, rather than see the Wii beat your beloved PS360?

I don't think Nintendo would've burned since they were making a profit off of the GCN they profited off of every one of their systems excpet I think Virtual Boy.

Profit is not a problem, lack of support and relevance is. It's a huge problem, and there's no way Nintendo wants to be irrelevant in the Console Industry. What are you going to do if you find yourself losing popularity and relevance?
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#30 GundamGuy0
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[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]

[QUOTE="hiphops_savior"] So you rather see Nintendo burn and rot in a Video Game Museum along with Sega consoles and Atari, rather than see the Wii beat your beloved PS360?hiphops_savior

I don't think Nintendo would've burned since they were making a profit off of the GCN they profited off of every one of their systems excpet I think Virtual Boy.

Profit is not a problem, lack of support and relevance is. It's a huge problem, and there's no way Nintendo wants to be irrelevant in the Console Industry. What are you going to do if you find yourself losing popularity and relevance?

Are they losing relevance... or are gaming elitest loosing relevance... I'd say Nintendo has never been more Relevant... to everyone... and less relevant to the shrinking minority...
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#31 DeadEndPanda
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what?

arent motion controles cool now? :P

acording to wikipedia. most things are gimmicky, like blue-ray and natal

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#32 majadamus
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[QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="desmondsultanas"][QUOTE="Tony-Baxter"] Cause they copy gimmicks? What kind of question is that?

A gimmick implies it has no lasting appeal. If it had no lasting appeal why would its competitors be copying it three years later?

"an ingenious or novel device, scheme, or stratagem, esp. one designed to attract attention or increase appeal." There's the dictionary definition for Gimmick. I don't know when gimmick started being a negative word.

I know. It's strange how fanboys can make anything seem like a bad thing.
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#33 GundamGuy0
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[QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="desmondsultanas"]A gimmick implies it has no lasting appeal. If it had no lasting appeal why would its competitors be copying it three years later?majadamus
"an ingenious or novel device, scheme, or stratagem, esp. one designed to attract attention or increase appeal." There's the dictionary definition for Gimmick. I don't know when gimmick started being a negative word.

I know. It's strange how fanboys can make anything seem like a bad thing.

I don't think you can call Motion Control a gimmick anymore... because it's standard now...
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#34 SquatsAreAwesom
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If motion control is a gimmick then why are MS and Sony copying?desmondsultanas
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#35 chocolate1325
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No they targetted a new audience and also Sony had a huge price tag on the PS3. Also why are Sony and Microsoft copying Nintendo now with motion controls. I don't call it a gimmick if the other 2 are deciding to do it too now.