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#451 Dudersaper
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You just summed up my thoughts on English anime dubs. 

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I hate most english dubs, but like in S-Cry-ed, the english dub is much better, and with DBZ and Rurounin Kenshin, I like the Portuguese dub much better.
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#452 megamannt123
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the three best english dubs i've seen are Medabots, DBZ, and Lucky Star, and Gunslinger Girl did a pretty good job with theirs too, but for other series, i prefer Japanese voices
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#453 Dudersaper
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the three best english dubs i've seen are Medabots, DBZ, megamannt123
Agreed about Medabots, I liked the english dub better than the portuguese dub (never heard the japanese yet), but DBZ I still prefered the Portugese dub, although I'd rather see the English dub over the Japanese anyday.
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[QUOTE="megamannt123"]the three best english dubs i've seen are Medabots, DBZ, Dudersaper
Agreed about Medabots, I liked the english dub better than the portuguese dub (never heard the japanese yet), but DBZ I still prefered the Portugese dub, although I'd rather see the English dub over the Japanese anyday.

i tried watching Medabots in Japanese, and it's amazing how different the voices were, i didn't like them at all...
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The English dub of DBZ was terrible. The voice actors had no emotional range. 

The Japanese voice acting is always far superior to the English dub.  

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The Japanese voice acting is always far superior to the English dub.  

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In most cases yes. There are exceptions though.
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#457 ktulu007
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[QUOTE="ktulu007"]

The Japanese voice acting is always far superior to the English dub.  

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In most cases yes. There are exceptions though.

There are no exceptions. The English anime dubbing industry has a sum total of zero talented people who commonly work on it.

English anime dubs range from annoying to incredibly terrible.

Sometimes I think they're actually trying to sound awful because constantly doing that badly by accident takes a level of incompetence that's mind staggering. 

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#458 Dudersaper
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Don't agree.
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#459 macrules_640
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At least cartoons have good voice acting most of the time that is.
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#460 Soniczero1993
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WHAT AM I FIGHTING FOR!!!!????
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WHAT AM I FIGHTING FOR!!!!????Soniczero1993

Pizza, Dude.  

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#462 mitu123
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WHAT AM I FIGHTING FOR!!!!????Soniczero1993
Reminds me of Mega Man X4.:lol: Game has some of the worst English voice acting.
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#463 megamannt123
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[QUOTE="Soniczero1993"]WHAT AM I FIGHTING FOR!!!!????mitu123
Reminds me of Mega Man X4.:lol: Game has some of the worst English voice acting.

i still have to try the original X games, i have played X7 and X8 (7 was okay, 8 was really good)
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[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="Soniczero1993"]WHAT AM I FIGHTING FOR!!!!????megamannt123
Reminds me of Mega Man X4.:lol: Game has some of the worst English voice acting.

i still have to try the original X games, i have played X7 and X8 (7 was okay, 8 was really good)

Those games are better than X7 and X8, I would say X7 is the worst X game in the series, but isn't a bad game. Yes, I've played them all.
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#465 macrules_640
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Now that was quite random...
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[QUOTE="megamannt123"][QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="Soniczero1993"]WHAT AM I FIGHTING FOR!!!!????mitu123
Reminds me of Mega Man X4.:lol: Game has some of the worst English voice acting.

i still have to try the original X games, i have played X7 and X8 (7 was okay, 8 was really good)

Those games are better than X7 and X8, I would say X7 is the worst X game in the series, but isn't a bad game. Yes, I've played them all.

X6 was a trainwreck. RANDOMIZED levels!? WTF!

X4 was fun.

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#467 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="megamannt123"][QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="Soniczero1993"]WHAT AM I FIGHTING FOR!!!!????Soniczero1993

Reminds me of Mega Man X4.:lol: Game has some of the worst English voice acting.

i still have to try the original X games, i have played X7 and X8 (7 was okay, 8 was really good)

Those games are better than X7 and X8, I would say X7 is the worst X game in the series, but isn't a bad game. Yes, I've played them all.

X6 was a trainwreck. RANDOMIZED levels!? WTF!

X4 was fun.

X7 is mostly 3D with controls, auto lock-on and camera that needs serious work and X had to be unlocked halfway through the game, lol.

X1-X3 are awesome and X4 and X5 are up there with them.

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Sucks the one who dominates all over X4 and X5 is Zero.
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#469 megamannt123
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[QUOTE="Soniczero1993"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="megamannt123"][QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="Soniczero1993"]WHAT AM I FIGHTING FOR!!!!????mitu123

Reminds me of Mega Man X4.:lol: Game has some of the worst English voice acting.

i still have to try the original X games, i have played X7 and X8 (7 was okay, 8 was really good)

Those games are better than X7 and X8, I would say X7 is the worst X game in the series, but isn't a bad game. Yes, I've played them all.

X6 was a trainwreck. RANDOMIZED levels!? WTF!

X4 was fun.

X7 is mostly 3D with controls, auto lock-on and camera that needs serious work and X had to be unlocked halfway through the game, lol.

X1-X3 are awesome and X4 and X5 are up there with them.

that was stupid, at that point Axl and Zero (in X7) were already powered up, so there was no point in using X
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Zero was probably the best character to use in X4 and X5 because he gave the game some challenge.
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X 1is the only one I have played :(
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Megaman X is one of the best games in the series. :D
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Megaman X is one of the best games in the series. :Dmacrules_640
I really enjoy it :) though it's the remixed version for PSP :P
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#474 macrules_640
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That version is good too. :D
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#475 Soniczero1993
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Zero still doesn't know what he's fighting for.
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#476 macrules_640
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He's fighting for better X games.
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X8 wasn't too bad.
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i liked X8, a lot better than X7...
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#479 mitu123
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i liked X8, a lot better than X7...megamannt123
Same here.
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The 2D game play was much better than the 3D, that was horrible.
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#481 mitu123
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The 2D game play was much better than the 3D, that was horrible.macrules_640
If you're talking about X7, I agree though it's still playable and not the worst, but X8 only had like 1-2 3D levels and were on rails thankfully.
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They were playable, but Axl was so broken in X7.
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Axl was practically the only character i used in X7 :P
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#484 macrules_640
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Speaking of Megaman, anyone remember the old cartoon from the 90s? :P
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never saw it, but was it the one with the repetitive theme song? :P
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Yeah, that one. :P
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i take it you watched it all the way through? :P
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#488 mitu123
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Speaking of Megaman, anyone remember the old cartoon from the 90s? :Pmacrules_640
That show is so bad.
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I actually watched that before playing the games.
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I suppose for a 90s cartoon it was bad, but better than some of the Megaman shows they have today.
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I suppose for a 90s cartoon it was bad, but better than some of the Megaman shows they have today.macrules_640
Which wouldn't take much.:P
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It's sort of like saying "it's bad but it's better than the 4kids version of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles." You can apply that "praise" to almost anything and have it be true. As such it's basically meaningless. 

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At least those shows had some soul to them which some shows seem to be missing.
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It's sort of like saying "it's bad but it's better than the 4kids version of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles." You can apply that "praise" to almost anything and have it be true. As such it's basically meaningless. 

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what are you serious? that version was awesome
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The 4Kids version of TMNT was good up until a point, and then it got bad.
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#496 ktulu007
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[QUOTE="ktulu007"]

It's sort of like saying "it's bad but it's better than the 4kids version of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles." You can apply that "praise" to almost anything and have it be true. As such it's basically meaningless. 

megamannt123

what are you serious? that version was awesome

It was terrible. All the characters were reduced to being completely one-dimensional, not that they were very complex characters to start with but still...

Shredder and Krang were combined in an exceedingly stupid way.

The writing was awful.

The whole thing was a disgrace.  

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They never really cared for writing back in the 80s for shows, it wasn't until the later part of the 90s when they started caring about writing it seems.
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There were plenty of well written shows in the 80s. Even if you just look at cartoons. 

One of the major reasons that the original TMNT worked was that the writers knew the premise was ridiculous and they just had fun with it. The writing was silly, but it was done deliberately. The characters had clever dialogue that referenced that fact. 

The result was a cartoon with good action sequences that was fun to watch.

The 4Kids version took the same premise and tried to make it dark and serious. Rather like a bad 90s comic. They changed Raphael from being clever and witty to being a complete sociopath. They took out all the more light-hearted aspects of Leonardo's character and made him serious to the point of being dull. They also exaggerated Michelangelo's fun loving aspects to the point where he cant be serious even when the situation calls for it and they made Donatello a complete cliche nerd instead of just being smart. The result is that the characters have far less complexity and just aren't interesting. The way they changed Splinter's origin was both stupid and nonsensical. 

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the original was delibrately silly, and it worked well. the 4kids version was more serious, but that also worked very well. each character was well defined and there was plenty of clever dialogue. splinter's origin made more sense in the 4kids version how a rat got mutated into a bigger more intelligent rat, in the way the turtles also got bigger and more intelligent. mixing a rat with a human in the original was more nonsensical, but it did work.
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The 4kids version didn't make any sense. 

A pet rat can not learn martial arts. Nor can it be aware of renaissance art.

In the original he was a master martial artist before he mutated so it makes sense that he would be able to teach those skills and, since he was cultured, it makes sense that he would know art. 

As for the mutagen, that's going to require a suspension of disbelief no matter how you use it.Â