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#1 Zero_epyon
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I'm still leaning toward Xbox not releasing a new console next gen and the graph above seems to be more evidence of that.

As you can see, the Xbox brand was born from standalone hardware & software. I remember reading that when Xbox was created, it came with a promise to Bill Gates that any tech that came from its development would eventually make it to PC and that the consoles would become obsolete.

I think we're at the final stages of that and Full Convergence will be the elimination of the traditional Xbox Console in exchange for a lite gaming PC that's cloud connected. Thinking the Chromebook of gaming.

What do you think?

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#2 SecretPolice
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I'm leaning towards an Xbox XXX console. ;o

Mature audiences only. lol :P

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#3 R4gn4r0k
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Are chromebooks and intel atom still a thing?

I mean once COVID hit everyone needed a laptop, there was nobody working from home on a Chromebook or intel atom device.

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#4 daredevils2k
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I’m sad to say this, but the rise and fall of the Xbox is in the early days now.

2028 the anti-console will be is upon us and it’s up to Sony and Nintendo to save us from armageddon.

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#5  Edited By Zero_epyon
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@R4gn4r0k said:

Are chromebooks and intel atom still a thing?

I mean once COVID hit everyone needed a laptop, there was nobody working from home on a Chromebook or intel atom device.

Unfortunately, Chromebooks are still a thing. My kid's school uses them sometimes over standard windows laptops and he hates them. I think the newer ones use Celerons now.

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#6 Antwan3K
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Microsoft’s Next-Gen Xbox Console Already in the Works

not really sure what else there is to discuss..

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#7  Edited By Zero_epyon
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@Antwan3K said:

Microsoft’s Next-Gen Xbox Console Already in the Works

not really sure what else there is to discuss..

Also Phil Spencer under oath:

https://wccftech.com/microsoft-may-exit-gaming-business-if-game-pass-subscribers-off-console-dont-increase-enough-by-2027/

conveniently that would be a year before they’d release their next console in 2028.

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#8  Edited By GhostOfGolden
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@Zero_epyon said:
@Antwan3K said:

Microsoft’s Next-Gen Xbox Console Already in the Works

not really sure what else there is to discuss..

Also Phil Spencer under oath:

https://wccftech.com/microsoft-may-exit-gaming-business-if-game-pass-subscribers-off-console-dont-increase-enough-by-2027/

conveniently that would be a year before they’d release their next console in 2028.

You’re gonna hurt Antwan’s feelings…

Email Phil and PR Phil couldn’t be more different. It’s my favorite part of the leaks. Phil has referenced leaving the console business multiple times now, but Lems dont wanna hear that

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#9 kuu2
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As long as Sony has a console MSoft will always have one.

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#10  Edited By Zero_epyon
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@ghostofgolden: people keep falling for these public pr statements. Like Jim Ryan being all against the deal acting all offended but in court he’s all “whatever bro” lol

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#11 GhostOfGolden
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@Zero_epyon said:

@ghostofgolden: people keep falling for these public pr statements. Like Jim Ryan being all against the deal acting all offended but in court he’s all “whatever bro” lol

Jim Ryan is a slime ball 100% of the time. Phil plays a convincing “good guy” on camera which is where they’re different. But what Phil is saying in these emails has got to be ripping out the hearts of the Lems. Phil sounds like a Cow in disguise, trying to tear down the brand from the top… Phil has now said multiple times that they need to focus on and grow PC/mobile substantially or they are out of the business. Then here comes @Antwan3K with that bullshit quote lmao! I almost feel bad…

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#12  Edited By Zero_epyon
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@kuu2 said:

As long as Sony has a console MSoft will always have one.

I’m sure Sega said the same thing about Nintendo at some point.

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#13 Zero_epyon
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@ghostofgolden: almost lol

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#14  Edited By Zero_epyon
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@ghostofgolden: but seriously I still hope they don’t exit and keep making consoles. We can’t have consoles going to just Sony. Especially under Jim Ryan. And Nintendo seem good with the handheld stuff for now.

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#15  Edited By GirlUSoCrazy
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@Zero_epyon said:

https://wccftech.com/microsoft-may-exit-gaming-business-if-game-pass-subscribers-off-console-dont-increase-enough-by-2027/

conveniently that would be a year before they’d release their next console in 2028.

If off-console doesn't take off, then they want to end their gaming presence completely?

I feel like the console market segment is its own thing, and they would struggle to transfer console gamers to PC gaming, just like you can't get herms to convert to console.

The idea that they want "full convergence" seems like they will be trying some kind of one size fits all approach, and I don't think that will work. Instead of pleasing everyone, they might end up alienating everyone.

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#16  Edited By KvallyX
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@Zero_epyon said:

I'm still leaning toward Xbox not releasing a new console next gen and the graph above seems to be more evidence of that.

As you can see, the Xbox brand was born from standalone hardware & software. I remember reading that when Xbox was created, it came with a promise to Bill Gates that any tech that came from its development would eventually make it to PC and that the consoles would become obsolete.

I think we're at the final stages of that and Full Convergence will be the elimination of the traditional Xbox Console in exchange for a lite gaming PC that's cloud connected. Thinking the Chromebook of gaming.

What do you think?

It actually sounds like they are planning on releasing even further generations out, which is what Phil has stated as well. Great news for gamers. Xbox gamers that is.

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#17  Edited By robert_sparkes
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Was wondering what next gen would bring the controller looks great looks like physical media is dead.

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#18 hardwenzen
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Holy shit and now Spencer himself is saying that they might be exiting the gaming business by 2027? And you were wondering why Halo Infinite is as shitty as it is😆Infinite is most likely your last Halo title, and THIS is how you will remember the IP as. WOW!

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#19  Edited By hardwenzen
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@kuu2 said:

As long as Sony has a console MSoft will always have one.

This is not the time to be plugged in into your copium tank. Please create at least 50 GP accounts, and sub for the next few years. Your future is in great danger if you don't.

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#20 xhawk27
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@hardwenzen: Yeah sure a 87 rated game is terrible that 9 Game spot gave it sure makes you salty! 😆

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#21 hardwenzen
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@xhawk27 said:

@hardwenzen: Yeah sure a 87 rated game is terrible that 9 Game spot gave it sure makes you salty! 😆

Why did they fire everyone, and nobody plays your 87 game?😁Yea, its one of the worst AAA titles to come out in the last 15 years.

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#22 Silentchief
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I'm leaning toward Playstation/Nintendo products in the future.

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#23 kuu2
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@Zero_epyon said:
@kuu2 said:

As long as Sony has a console MSoft will always have one.

I’m sure Sega said the same thing about Nintendo at some point.

Sega didn't have a console becasue they were out of cash my man.

Sony will be the Sega of this decade.

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@kuu2: no one is going to be Sega. All 3 have a future in gaming. You're just mad that despite having the most money, Microsoft is the worst at it.

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#25 Pedro
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Damn, Sony fannies have been praying daily for Xbox to close up shop but the opposite is perpetually happening. It remind me of the days when people were complaining about Microsoft not investing in gaming and now that they are investing billions but for some reason they're going to jump out of gaming 🤣

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@Pedro said:

Damn, Sony fannies have been praying daily for Xbox to close up shop but the opposite is perpetually happening. It remind me of the days when people were complaining about Microsoft not investing in gaming and now that they are investing billions but for some reason they're going to jump out of gaming 🤣

It's always a bad idea to predict the future of a company based off outdated redacted documents. Why would MS leave the gaming market after spending a ton of money on their recent moves.

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#27 KvallyX
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Looks like Phil has shit all over this parade, lol.

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@Zero_epyon said:
@R4gn4r0k said:

Are chromebooks and intel atom still a thing?

I mean once COVID hit everyone needed a laptop, there was nobody working from home on a Chromebook or intel atom device.

Unfortunately, Chromebooks are still a thing. My kid's school uses them sometimes over standard windows laptops and he hates them. I think the newer ones use Celerons now.

What's so bad about Chromebooks? My kids use them at school, and they seem fine as a low priced computer for basic tasks. I wouldn't buy one myself, but if someone just wants to do internet and word processing, it works.

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#29 Pedro
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@kvallyx said:

Looks like Phil has shit all over this parade, lol.

/thread

but teh conspiracy.😂

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#30 Zero_epyon
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@Pedro said:
@kvallyx said:

Looks like Phil has shit all over this parade, lol.

/thread

but teh conspiracy.😂

@ghostofgolden Exhibit B lol

Phil's words under oath are a conspiracy now. Can't make this up.

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#31 Pedro
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@Zero_epyon said:
@Pedro said:
@kvallyx said:

Looks like Phil has shit all over this parade, lol.

/thread

but teh conspiracy.😂

@ghostofgolden Exhibit B lol

Phil's words under oath are a conspiracy now. Can't make this up.

You are only embarrassing yourself now.😂

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#32 Zero_epyon
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I wonder if regulators have the real plans instead of the old outdated plans...

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#33 Zero_epyon
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@Pedro said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@Pedro said:
@kvallyx said:

Looks like Phil has shit all over this parade, lol.

/thread

but teh conspiracy.😂

@ghostofgolden Exhibit B lol

Phil's words under oath are a conspiracy now. Can't make this up.

You are only embarrassing yourself now.😂

What ever you say...

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#34  Edited By Pedro
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@Zero_epyon said:

What ever you say...

...is true.

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#35 Fedor
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Phil getting exposed today has been fun, enjoying all the banter on Twitter.

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#36 Zero_epyon
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Anyway...

One thing they could be working on based on these leaks is a gaming OS that can be installed on or run on multiple devices. Without dependence on hardware, they could license this Xbox OS to other hardware manufacturers while still offering content for all devices running the OS and beyond.

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#37  Edited By GhostOfGolden
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@Pedro said:
@kvallyx said:

Looks like Phil has shit all over this parade, lol.

/thread

but teh conspiracy.😂

A cult…

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#38 X_CAPCOM_X
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We will share the "REAL PLANS" roflmao

Phil... that isn't it man.

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#39 Pedro
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@ghostofgolden said:

A cult…

...that you are part of. I agree. 😂

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#40 Fedor
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@X_CAPCOM_X said:

We will share the "REAL PLANS" roflmao

Phil... that isn't it man.

Lol, yeah he says that like his real plans aren't buying up the industry.

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#41 Zero_epyon
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@X_CAPCOM_X said:

We will share the "REAL PLANS" roflmao

Phil... that isn't it man.

He might have just admitted to hiding the real plans from regulators and courts. Or...those were the real plans lol

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#42  Edited By GhostOfGolden
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@Pedro said:
@ghostofgolden said:

A cult…

...that you are part of. I agree. 😂

The emails are from last year. Xbox submitted the emails to support their case… Phil’s words vs Phil’s words. You’re calling this a “conspiracy”? You are coming off like one of those MAGA goons.

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#43 Nonstop-Madness
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@Zero_epyon:

It's amusing that every time there's some bad news about Xbox's future plans they come out and say "our plans have changed". lmao

I completely understand that plans change but, the near term stuff doesn't change that dramatically. Ex. They aren't magically going to release a Series X Pro when they had no plans for it last year.

I 100% believe the next gen stuff could change. That's years away.

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#44 Pedro
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@ghostofgolden said:

The emails are from last year. Xbox submitted the emails to support their case… Phil’s words vs Phil’s words. You’re calling this a “conspiracy”? You are coming off like one of those MAGA goons.

I can tell you are stressed because you think my comment was the belief it is a conspiracy.😂 And to add the cherry on top, you are now deflecting to MAGA.🤣

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#45 Nonstop-Madness
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@X_CAPCOM_X:

"Lies of P" really did drop today. lol

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#46 mrbojangles25
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This is all business speak and everyone here, for or against MS, should be wary of what it means for the end consumer.

This might be good for shareholders and executives, we will need to wait and see how it turns out for the games and console.

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#47  Edited By GhostOfGolden
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@Pedro said:
@ghostofgolden said:

The emails are from last year. Xbox submitted the emails to support their case… Phil’s words vs Phil’s words. You’re calling this a “conspiracy”? You are coming off like one of those MAGA goons.

I can tell you are stressed because you think my comment was the belief it is a conspiracy.😂 And to add the cherry on top, you are now deflecting to MAGA.🤣

You brought up “conspiracy”. Using a man’s words against that man’s words doesn’t constitute a conspiracy. The spin you are engaging in here today is very MAGA.

Today on Xbox Twitter, first it was a dismissal of the leaks, met with “we need to go after the leakers“. Textbook MAGA. Once we learned Xbox was the leakers (lmao) we are creating a fictional world where none of this matters. MAGA again.

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#48 Pedro
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@ghostofgolden said:

You brought up “conspiracy”. Using a man’s words against that man’s words doesn’t constitute a conspiracy. The spin you are engaging in here today is very MAGA.

Today on Xbox Twitter, first it was a dismissal of the leaks, met with “we need to go after the leakers“. Textbook MAGA. Once we learned Xbox was the leakers (lmao) we are creating a fictional world where none of this matters. MAGA again.

Yes! The conspiracy of Xbox leaving console gaming. Did you even read the OP or did you see my name and got triggered.😂

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#49  Edited By Zero_epyon
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@Pedro said:
@ghostofgolden said:

You brought up “conspiracy”. Using a man’s words against that man’s words doesn’t constitute a conspiracy. The spin you are engaging in here today is very MAGA.

Today on Xbox Twitter, first it was a dismissal of the leaks, met with “we need to go after the leakers“. Textbook MAGA. Once we learned Xbox was the leakers (lmao) we are creating a fictional world where none of this matters. MAGA again.

Yes! The conspiracy of Xbox leaving console gaming. Did you even read the OP or did you see my name and got triggered.😂

I can fairly safely say that if Xbox does not make more progress than this off of console, they would exit the gaming business. If this were the outcome, I don't believe they'd still be in the business.

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#50 Pedro
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@Zero_epyon said:

I can fairly safely say that if Xbox does not make more progress than this off of console, they would exit the gaming business. If this were the outcome, I don't believe they'd still be in the business.

So now MS is going to exit the gaming business. 😂 Someone, give this man a shovel.