Xbox 360 is 10.000.000 systems ahead of PS3 for western developers

Games like Fallout 3 have sold better on 360 in Japan (90.000) than PS3

Also most games sell about same on PS3 and 360 in Japan (Reasonance of Fate)

So, developers dont really care much for PS3 sales in Japan, since their games sell nothing there, especially WRPGs and generally games made outside Japan

In short, for developers 360 is still 10.000.000 systems they can sell their games on ahead, which is huge

That is why most games have far more huge sales on 360 than PS3

What do you think ?

PS. Soon with Kinect that gap with reach 15.000.000 for sure by 2011 end

LINKS

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27495920&page=0

http://gamingnews247.blogspot.com/2010/10/ps3-sells-416-million-playstation.html

Any links to that info?

My reaction, soooo many incongruences, missinformation :?

If you say so

where the bloody norah are you pulling your numbers from...the gap between consoles are 2mil going by recent press statements bout the PS3 and the x360.

where the bloody norah are you pulling your numbers from...the gap between consoles are 2mil going by recent press statements bout the PS3 and the x360.

razgriz_101

You mean 3.

Any links to that info?

Grawse

What info ? The sales data is widly avaialble on google, PS3 has huge sales in Japan and is the only reason it is only 4.000.000 behind 360, if you consider that most games sell nothing in Japan, then the real gap as far asdevelopers are concerned is 10.000.000+

i also a bit surprised he could count that high.

where the bloody norah are you pulling your numbers from...the gap between consoles are 2mil going by recent press statements bout the PS3 and the x360.

razgriz_101

45-41 = 4 million

BY the latests statements, as you said

[QUOTE="Giancar"]

My reaction, soooo many incongruences, missinformation :?

waltefmoney

Or maybe he's just ' ***ya?

[QUOTE="Grawse"]

Any links to that info?

AbleFa3

What info ? The sales data is widly avaialble on google, PS3 has huge sales in Japan and is the only reason it is only 4.000.000 behind 360, if you consider that most games sell nothing in Japan, then the real gap as far asdevelopers are concerned is 10.000.000+

the difference is 2.9 millions

[QUOTE="Grawse"]

Any links to that info?

AbleFa3

What info ? The sales data is widly avaialble on google, PS3 has huge sales in Japan and is the only reason it is only 4.000.000 behind 360, if you consider that most games sell nothing in Japan, then the real gap as far asdevelopers are concerned is 10.000.000+

My reaction, soooo many incongruences, missinformation :?

Giancar

[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

[QUOTE="Grawse"]

Any links to that info?

Giancar

What info ? The sales data is widly avaialble on google, PS3 has huge sales in Japan and is the only reason it is only 4.000.000 behind 360, if you consider that most games sell nothing in Japan, then the real gap as far asdevelopers are concerned is 10.000.000+

the difference is 2.9 millions

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27495920&page=0

45.0-41.6 = 3.4 million

Now with Kinect that gap will go to 4 milion in no time, if it has not got there already

My reaction, soooo many incongruences, missinformation

Giancar

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27495920&page=0

45.0-41.6 = 3.4 million

AbleFa3

want to play the game?

Ok those 45 millions number included the month of october, it was most likely an estimate

so using the last financial reports and using basic maths:

2.8 million XBOX 360s sold; LTD of 44.6 million units.

2.8/3 = 0.93 millions per month 44.6 + 0.93 = 45,53 millions (more than 45 millions)

now with Sony

3.5 million PS3s sold; LTD of 41.6 million units

3.5/3 = 1,16 millions per month 41.6 + 1.16 = 42,7 millions :o

45,53 - 42,7 = 2,83 millions The difference got smaller :o

Heck...use official financial numbers =|

[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27495920&page=0

45.0-41.6 = 3.4 million

Giancar

want to play the game?

Ok those 45 millions number included the month of october, it was most likely an estimate

so using the last financial reports and using basic maths:

2.8 million XBOX 360s sold; LTD of 44.6 million units.

2.8/3 = 0.93 millions per month 44.6 + 0.93 = 45,53 millions (more than 45 millions)

now with Sony

3.5 million PS3s sold; LTD of 41.6 million units

3.5/3 = 1,16 millions per month 41.6 + 1.16 = 42,7 millions :o

45,53 - 42,7 = 2,83 millions The difference got smaller :o

Heck...use official financial numbers =|

Nice, only problem you have there is that you inflated PS3 numbers, when in fact 360 is outselling it by miles

The numbers are clear, Sony annouced 41.6 and MS 45, the difference is 3.4 millon and will be 4 million soon with Kinect sales

Nice, only problem you have there is that you inflated PS3 numbers, when in fact 360 is outselling it by miles

The numbers are clear, Sony annouced 41.6 and MS 45, the difference is 3.4 millon and will be 4 million soon with Kinect sales

AbleFa3

Damage control is hilarious.

TC PS3 sold more software in 2010 than 360 and has jumped 60% acc to Sony

[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

Nice, only problem you have there is that you inflated PS3 numbers, when in fact 360 is outselling it by miles

The numbers are clear, Sony annouced 41.6 and MS 45, the difference is 3.4 millon and will be 4 million soon with Kinect sales

Giancar

You mean consoles sell the same every month ? Are you serious about that ?

[QUOTE="Giancar"]

[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27495920&page=0

45.0-41.6 = 3.4 million

AbleFa3

want to play the game?

Ok those 45 millions number included the month of october, it was most likely an estimate

so using the last financial reports and using basic maths:

2.8 million XBOX 360s sold; LTD of 44.6 million units.

2.8/3 = 0.93 millions per month 44.6 + 0.93 = 45,53 millions (more than 45 millions)

now with Sony

3.5 million PS3s sold; LTD of 41.6 million units

3.5/3 = 1,16 millions per month 41.6 + 1.16 = 42,7 millions :o

45,53 - 42,7 = 2,83 millions The difference got smaller :o

Heck...use official financial numbers =|

Nice, only problem you have there is that you inflated PS3 numbers, when in fact 360 is outselling it by miles

The numbers are clear, Sony annouced 41.6 and MS 45, the difference is 3.4 millon and will be 4 million soon with Kinect sales

[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

[QUOTE="Giancar"] *sighs*

want to play the game?

Ok those 45 millions number included the month of october, it was most likely an estimate

so using the last financial reports and using basic maths:

2.8 million XBOX 360s sold; LTD of 44.6 million units.

2.8/3 = 0.93 millions per month 44.6 + 0.93 = 45,53 millions (more than 45 millions)

now with Sony

3.5 million PS3s sold; LTD of 41.6 million units

3.5/3 = 1,16 millions per month 41.6 + 1.16 = 42,7 millions :o

45,53 - 42,7 = 2,83 millions The difference got smaller :o

Heck...use official financial numbers =|

soulitane

Nice, only problem you have there is that you inflated PS3 numbers, when in fact 360 is outselling it by miles

The numbers are clear, Sony annouced 41.6 and MS 45, the difference is 3.4 millon and will be 4 million soon with Kinect sales

LINKS

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27495920&page=0

http://gamingnews247.blogspot.com/2010/10/ps3-sells-416-million-playstation.html

[QUOTE="Giancar"][QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

Nice, only problem you have there is that you inflated PS3 numbers, when in fact 360 is outselling it by miles

The numbers are clear, Sony annouced 41.6 and MS 45, the difference is 3.4 millon and will be 4 million soon with Kinect sales

AbleFa3

You mean consoles sell the same every month ? Are you serious about that ?

[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

Nice, only problem you have there is that you inflated PS3 numbers, when in fact 360 is outselling it by miles

The numbers are clear, Sony annouced 41.6 and MS 45, the difference is 3.4 millon and will be 4 million soon with Kinect sales

AbleFa3

LINKS

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27495920&page=0

http://gamingnews247.blogspot.com/2010/10/ps3-sells-416-million-playstation.html

The gap when ps3 laucnhed was close to 11 million. Now it's 2,9 mil. Make your own theories about it but even after the redesign of the 360 the gap keeps narrowin, even when many many people own multiple 360, let it be because of hardware failure or one to play pirated games and the other to play online.

The gap when ps3 laucnhed was close to 11 million. Now it's 2,9 mil. Make your own theories about it but even after the redesign of the 360 the gap keeps narrowin, even when many many people own multiple 360, let it be because of hardware failure or one to play pirated games and the other to play online.

blitzcloud

http://www.lazygamer.net/aaron-greenberg-corrects-the-major-and-proves-us-right/

Now it is 3.5 million and will grow with Kinect

Also developers dont care for PS3 sales in Japan

There needs to be a new board:

Financial Wars

Y'know, so System Wars can go back to being about the systems and not numbers that everyone loves to manipulate.

Nice damage control go on buddy :P.

this number 10.000.000 means 10 so the xbox is 10 sales ahead of the ps3 :P

you just made so much crap up then, it made me laugh.. besides, in raw sales, the PS3 should be beating 360, more than 3 million 360s have only been sold because the buyer's first one got RROD, so i think their real sales are about 38mil - 360 and maybe 41mil for PS3

This use to be entertaining, now its just getting sad. *sigh* Do these people hold stock in MS/sony?

Games like Fallout 3 have sold better on 360 in Japan (90.000) than PS3

Also most games sell about same on PS3 and 360 in Japan (Reasonance of Fate)

So, developers dont really care much for PS3 sales in Japan, since their games sell nothing there, especially WRPGs and generally games made outside Japan

In short, for developers 360 is still 10.000.000 systems they can sell their games on ahead, which is huge

That is why most games have far more huge sales on 360 than PS3

What do you think ?

PS. Soon with Kinect that gap with reach 15.000.000 for sure by 2011 end

AbleFa3

this is an epitome of being desperate.

Games like Fallout 3 have sold better on 360 in Japan (90.000) than PS3

Also most games sell about same on PS3 and 360 in Japan (Reasonance of Fate)

So, developers dont really care much for PS3 sales in Japan, since their games sell nothing there, especially WRPGs and generally games made outside Japan

In short, for developers 360 is still 10.000.000 systems they can sell their games on ahead, which is huge

That is why most games have far more huge sales on 360 than PS3

What do you think ?

PS. Soon with Kinect that gap with reach 15.000.000 for sure by 2011 end

LINKS

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27495920&page=0

http://gamingnews247.blogspot.com/2010/10/ps3-sells-416-million-playstation.html

AbleFa3

you forgot to minus the 8 million RROD 360 that were thrown into the trash.

so the real figure is, the 360 is leading by 2 million. you lose

This is damage controlling and spinning sales figures on a whole new level.

:lol:

Good one TC for making the rest of 360 fans look bad.

this is just my personal opinion...

I think at this moment since the gap between the 2 is small, its impossibile to determine which system has the larger install base... First companies post their shipped units and honestly am not sure if they just count the units sold to consumers or just those sold to stores.. It might easily be the case where there are 1 million consoles lying around in stores/warehouses around the world not sold yet...(so for Sony/MS those are sold but in reality they dont currently form part of the actual install base)

Secondly one must keep in mind that there might be gamers who own 2 or more from the same consoles... I got a friend who has 2 PS3's at home, so for Sony that means 2 x PS3's sold but in reality you cannot add 2 x gamers to the install base but only 1.. this is info which is impossible to retrieve...

Finally does anyone know if MS count all consoles shipped but reduce the returned units (RROD) when issuing their official nos? Personally i had to buy a second 360 (when my 1st one died, over here we're not covered by the 3 yr warranty) as did a couple of friends of mine.. Do MS count the replaced units as sold units ? If they do count replaced units as normal sold units then i'm pretty sure the PS3's install base is already larger than the 360 one..

[QUOTE="spookykid143"]

i also a bit surprised he could count that high.

getyeryayasout

On topic: TC actually makes some sense, but how many games are developers strictly developing for the 360 only? It really doesn't matter that the 360 has a higher attach rate, same games are on the PS3.

360 is the console to own definitely.

Games like Fallout 3 have sold better on 360 in Japan (90.000) than PS3

Also most games sell about same on PS3 and 360 in Japan (Reasonance of Fate)

So, developers dont really care much for PS3 sales in Japan, since their games sell nothing there, especially WRPGs and generally games made outside Japan

In short, for developers 360 is still 10.000.000 systems they can sell their games on ahead, which is huge

That is why most games have far more huge sales on 360 than PS3

What do you think ?

PS. Soon with Kinect that gap with reach 15.000.000 for sure by 2011 end

LINKS

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27495920&page=0

http://gamingnews247.blogspot.com/2010/10/ps3-sells-416-million-playstation.html

I agree with TC.