Will Rare ever make an AAAE game again?

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#1 SolidGame_basic
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After playing Rare Replay I realize how special Rare used to be. Then I did some research on the games they made post MS acquisition and they weren't nearly as good. It seems like the old Rare people are gone. The new Pirates game looks alright - but does SW really have faith in Rare to make another classic? I ask you guys because you're my mentors.

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#2 -God-
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I dunno man, the Pirate game seems more fun than any PS4 title.

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#3 Phreek300
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That all depends on Microsoft and Rare if they will be great again. I hope so, but I'm cautiously optimistic. Most of their talent that made them great are in other studios now. Here's to hoping they can return to form.

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#4  Edited By MonsieurX
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Why not

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#6 nintendoboy16
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Even if they did, they'd still be disliked for "not being the same." They are much like Bungie (since Destiny) at this point

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Mebe

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#8 360ru13r
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Depends. Ask yourself this are you truely blown away by how fun the games are or are you blown away by the nostalgia factor it makes you feel like a kid again? Becuase Rare did make Kameo: Elements of Power and Viva Pinata which had that RARE feel.

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#9 Ant_17
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Not holding my breath for it.

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Not a chance.

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#11 NyaDC
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I don't have a time machine, I couldn't tell you.

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#12 RR360DD
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Probably Viva Pinata 3 whenever they get around to it

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#13 Cloud_imperium
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I hope so.

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#14 Cloud_imperium
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@nyadc said:

I don't have a time machine, I couldn't tell you.

You could tell him but you don't even have time to tell him, why you can't tell him (or something like that).

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#15 Shewgenja
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Way too early to tell, but it's probably worth giving them a second chance if you have a Bone already.

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@-God- said:

I dunno man, the Pirate game seems more fun than any PS4 title.

lolno.

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#17 davem1992
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No.

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#18 LJS9502_basic
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The real Rare is gone. New devs with the name. I wouldn't expect the same results.

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#19 DaVillain  Moderator  Online
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Give me Goldeneye 2 and we'll see.

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#20 intotheminx
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Rare was split up. I have a feeling the team doing Yooka Laylee has the better talent.

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#21  Edited By deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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@freedomfreak said:

Mebe

I cannot tell you how much I approve of the new sig and avy, man.

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#22 CRUSHER88
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Not sure. I don't know how the Viva games rated but I know they were pretty solid. Just depends how MS views them. They were given the chance with two launch titles on the 360 that were okay. Couple more games mid gen and finished off the Kinect crap sadly. This pirates game looks interesting...just gotta wait for some more info.

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@charizard1605 said:

I cannot tell you how much I approve of the new sig and avy, man.

Yeah, been playing it this weekend. Got Kanji out.

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@freedomfreak said:
@charizard1605 said:

I cannot tell you how much I approve of the new sig and avy, man.

Yeah, been playing it this weekend. Got Kanji out.

Most useless best bro ever.

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#25 Ross_the_Boss6
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Why not? They made some good games under MS.

Nuts and Bolts is just fun (screw the haters), and Kameo was a damn great launch game for the 360. I also played the shit out of the Viva Piñata demo (although I admittedly never bought the game). It's one I'm really looking forward to playing when I pick up Rare Replay.

There's still talent at Rare. Even if they don't hit AAA for a little while, I still think they're capable of quality work when given the chance.

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#26  Edited By FoxbatAlpha
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Rare may be missing their former employees but still have all the support in the world. Microsoft has turned them loose again. We will see if The Pirates of Penzance shuts everyone's skepticism down.

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#27 foxhound_fox
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I'm not sure how anyone can have any faith in Rare after both the Perfect Dark and Banjo Kazooie teams left ages ago.

Free Radical has been relegated to making Crysis multiplayer and the Banjo vets are making their own game.

Why not support the developers themselves rather than put faith in the shell of the company?

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#28 cainetao11
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I don't understand, you did research on the xbox Rare Games? Why not just play them and decide for yourself if they aren't very good? Nuts n Bolts is a fun game, the Viva Pinatas and Kameo are as well. Did you play them TC?

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#29 B_rich84
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Is Rare really Rare anymore? I mean aren't all the people who made it great gone?

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#30 batosaims
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Microsoft could always hire new credible talent. Contrary to popular belief Rare has made some good games under their Microsoft including Kameo, Perfect Dark Zero (which was still decent) and both Viva Pinata games, I don't know if they can be an AAA developer but a solid AA developer seems plausible

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#31 SolidGame_basic
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@cainetao11 said:

I don't understand, you did research on the xbox Rare Games? Why not just play them and decide for yourself if they aren't very good? Nuts n Bolts is a fun game, the Viva Pinatas and Kameo are as well. Did you play them TC?

I'm not saying they aren't very good, just not same caliber as pre Microsoft era.

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@SolidGame_basic said:

I'm not saying they aren't very good, just not same caliber as pre Microsoft era.

What Rare games have you played?

Also, why are you not treating Sea of Thieves as a AAA title? Or are you talking review score and not budget?

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#33 guard12
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I hate to say this but Rare hasn't been the same since they left from Nintendo. Rare Replay kinda shows that since a majority of the greats they did like Banjo, Perfect Dark, Killer Instinct Gold, Jet Force Gemini were all Nintendo games. I hope the new Pirate game turns it around for them though.

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Who knows, most of the talent that made that studio great is long gone.

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#35 jg4xchamp
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Rare's best game is Viva Pinata, #ComeAtMeBro

Anyway as far as them making another "AAAE" probably no, and they don't necessarily need to. Being a developer that makes consistent good games isn't something to be frowned upon, Microsoft just needs to be willing to retool that studio with some talent.

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@-God- said:

I dunno man, the Pirate game seems more fun than any PS4 title.

The sooner you let your fear of the PS4 not control you....the more in control of your thoughts you will be.

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#37 locopatho
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I expect Rare to continue what they have always done under MS. Consistently make great (AA) games.

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@ReadingRainbow4 said:

Who knows, most of the talent that made that studio great is long gone.

Yup and MS decided to kill the remaining studio with Kinect.

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@cainetao11 said:

I don't understand, you did research on the xbox Rare Games? Why not just play them and decide for yourself if they aren't very good? Nuts n Bolts is a fun game, the Viva Pinatas and Kameo are as well. Did you play them TC?

I always thought Rare was okay....but lately they seem to be over rated. Not sure why that is. Nostalgia?

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#40 SecretPolice
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Sea of Thieves AAAAAAAAAE, Bank. :P

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#41  Edited By cainetao11
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@LJS9502_basic said:
@cainetao11 said:

I don't understand, you did research on the xbox Rare Games? Why not just play them and decide for yourself if they aren't very good? Nuts n Bolts is a fun game, the Viva Pinatas and Kameo are as well. Did you play them TC?

I always thought Rare was okay....but lately they seem to be over rated. Not sure why that is. Nostalgia?

I liked the games on 360 that I mentioned. I never played the N64 and older games. I didn't grow up a Nintendo kid, Sega was where I played. So they have been fun to play.

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#42  Edited By -God-
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@mr_huggles_dog said:
@-God- said:

I dunno man, the Pirate game seems more fun than any PS4 title.

The sooner you let your fear of the PS4 not control you....the more in control of your thoughts you will be.

Same goes for your fear of GodC and its first place status.

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I hope so, but isn't the true Rare now Playtonic? I expect Playtonic to put out a AAA game, not sure on Rare though. Sea of Thieves could turn out good, but it looks like it may go down the path of f2p like Fable Legends. Not saying it is a bad thing, but I'm not sure how the MMO elements will work. If they have big crew battles where a crew controls a ship and it's cannons against an opposing team, it could be cool, but I'm being skeptical about it right now. This is the first time Rare has been allowed to make a game they actually wanted to make in years so I hope they prove themselves as a worthy successor to the name Rare.

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Yeah if they rejoin Nintendo. Other than that, no

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#45  Edited By Mr_Huggles_dog
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@-God- said:
@mr_huggles_dog said:
@-God- said:

I dunno man, the Pirate game seems more fun than any PS4 title.

The sooner you let your fear of the PS4 not control you....the more in control of your thoughts you will be.

Same goes for your fear of GodC and its first place status.

WTF is a GodC?

Is that some sort of V8 juice?

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#46 -God-
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@mr_huggles_dog said:
@-God- said:
@mr_huggles_dog said:
@-God- said:

I dunno man, the Pirate game seems more fun than any PS4 title.

The sooner you let your fear of the PS4 not control you....the more in control of your thoughts you will be.

Same goes for your fear of GodC and its first place status.

WTF is a GodC?

Is that some sort of V8 juice?

See, you're doing it again. The trembling is real.

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#47  Edited By Mr_Huggles_dog
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@-God- said:
@mr_huggles_dog said:
@-God- said:
@mr_huggles_dog said:
@-God- said:

I dunno man, the Pirate game seems more fun than any PS4 title.

The sooner you let your fear of the PS4 not control you....the more in control of your thoughts you will be.

Same goes for your fear of GodC and its first place status.

WTF is a GodC?

Is that some sort of V8 juice?

See, you're doing it again. The trembling is real.

Uh...ok.

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#48 rosko123
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Nope. Maybe if Microsoft hadn't taken so long to realise they had purchased a great studio and hadn't put them to work on kinnect games. Hardly any (if any) of the names that made games in Rares golden era are still with the company so not looking to good.

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#49  Edited By Suppaman100
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@-God- said:

I dunno man, the Pirate game seems more fun than any PS4 title.

Bloodborne >>>>>>...

But hey I can't blame you for your ignorance since you're not able to play such a masterpiece on that overpriced back-up system you call PC.

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#50  Edited By -God-
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@Suppaman100 said:
@-God- said:

I dunno man, the Pirate game seems more fun than any PS4 title.

Bloodborne >>>>>>...

But hey I can't blame you for your ignorance since you're not able to play such a masterpiece on that overpriced back-up system you call PC.

Backup system with more aaa/aa/a than ps4, best gfx, best fps, most hardware/software gaming sales, most players, best online and competitive scenes by exponential margins, and better version of 90% of released games this gen