Will PS4's lead force next gen to come early?

PS4s monstrous lead has me worried, worried that the others will admit defeat and try to release their next consoles early to get a lead on the NEXT gen. Thoughts? I feel like long console cycles are great for the industry, it gives developers more time to release better games. Short console cycles can kill the whole industry in my opinion.

discuss.

Can we discuss your terrible opinion first?

Well Nintendo is already planning another device in the near future. I doubt MS will start too early

MS has a chance to give the XBone legs if they do some serious reinvestment into making more 1st party studios and drop the HDMI input in a new SKU to drop the price further. PS4 is at a point where they need to focus on getting games out there to push the platform. If anyone is being severely pushed into 9th gen, it's Nintendo.

why is that terrible?

Yeah? You enjoy same games re-released for 2nd or 3rd time so those devs can actually show their games how they wanted em to be originally but couldn't at that time because of 5+ years old hardware? No. Do not want. New consoles should be released in under 5 years with no exceptions.

No, it will only make this gen better by focusing on the gamers.

no.

the big 3 dont really care of they are leading. there is only one important question: are they making money? nintendo are not. are MS with the X1 (i honestly dont know and am too lazy to look for it)? sure its always nice PR to have the best selling console or the console with the highest attachment ratio or to be regarded as the go to console for 3rd party games. but these companies are not about to drop all the R&D and all that just because they are not winning the sales race.

also remember that it takes years to design a console. no one is in a position to have a new console ready at the moment.

in saying that i dont think this gen will last as long as the last. last gen went on too long...it should have been knocked on the head a year earlier than it was.

What are we supposed to 'discuss'? Are you asking if MS and Nintendo are going to bring out new consoles next year because the PS4 is currently the market leader? No, they are not. Any other questions?

Yeah that 29% more power that the PS4 has over the Xbox One is a really huge margin. If MS does make another Console in four years time they better make the most powerful one.

no...

What a terrible thread. lulz

I don't think MS will but Nintendo are currently working on the NX. Who knows they might release early since the WiiU is tanking really hard.

I kinda agree, the console that releases earlier always wins a generation but fails to carry on the momentum to the following gen. It is the natural order of things.

I honestly don't believe for a second that NX is a home console. It's going to be some kind of weird tablet thing or even another handheld they would lose all the goodwill of their fanbase if they release another console so soon after they bought the Wii U, shitty piece of junk though it may be.

@xhawk27: Lol the percentage is different everyday with you people.

MS has too much invested and has so much to unlock in the future to start researching another console right now. Once Teh Cloud and DX12 are mainstream, then they can set forth building on that.

Sony has too much momentum to change a thing. The PS4 sells on its own. No games required. Plus the gaming division supporting the rest of the company that is dying can't last long. I don't think they would willingly invest in PS5 tech right now.

Nintendo can come out with a super console and I still don't think anyone will label it next gen. You have to take them seriously first.

@ps4hasnogames: Long console cycles are good for the industry? Is that a joke? Do we not remember all the people saying the PS3/360 gen would be the end because of the massive sales decline? The best thing for the industry would be three to four year cycles with full backwards compatibility.

If Nintendo come out with a super console (i.e. one that isn't completely shit which let's face it is unlikely) they would have all the third parties on board and also the manchilds who absolutely must have more Mario jumping up and down etc. They would rule completely. But they won't, so er, they won't.

It is currently tanking so hard that sales are up every month?

Sony wouldn't give a **** about anybody elses "lead on next gen", so long as the ps4 were still selling, so it's kinda irrelevant.

I think the weakness of the machines will cause this gen to be shorter than the last one. PS4 is the most powerful console of the three but even it is considerably weaker than it should have been. I'm not one of these guys calling for 4K capable machines cuz I think that's silly but PS4 and X1 should have had around 24 GPU compute units in them rather than 18 and 12. And they both should have had proper CPU cores or if you're gonna use weak Jaguar ones it should have been more than 8 of them.

Pretty much this.

Current gen consoles are WEAK. They won't be able to keep up with other technology (PC, tablets, TVs, etc.) if this cycle is as long as the last. Hell, they can't even do what they PROMISED to do in the first place (1080p/60fps), so they are already behind from the start.

If the big 3 are smart they should release new consoles no more than 4 years from now.

I definitely hope we get new consoles after 5 years. Last year's generation lasted way too long. I think 5 years is the perfect lifespan for a console.

We should try and find a negative PS4 point of view that no one has done before.

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Well when MS realized the Xbox wasn't working they went right to work on the 360. So it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility. But since they launched at the same time as the PS4 I kinda think they want to keep the same console cycle. The real wildcard will be Nintendo. I actually hope they keep the Wii U going until 2018 or 2019 until they fully master HD gaming and get their online situations figured out with DeNA.

No. How is the fact that a console with good hardware design and lots of support from devs, being in the lead, a bad thing? Same happened last generation and it was awesome.

I see this gen as a kind of interim gen, what i mean by that is the makers release an averagely powerful console they can immediately make a profit on to rake in some money for a few years and then once things seem more settled they release a real full on powerhouse console the following gen.

I hope it doesn't, the gen is just getting started and they are great games still yet to come out on both systems that I'm waiting for. The games will come for both consoles people just need to wait and besides, it isn't like there's no games to play right now on the consoles. Dying Light, Bloodborne, MKX, Sunset, Halo, CoD, Battlefield, Ori, Hell Divers......There's plenty to play if people stop whinning, bitching and moaning about numbers, graphics and my console is better than yours and see what games are out there to actually play right now.

Yes and coincidently Sony will drop the PS4 when Halo 5 hits the street, weird eh? :P

Long cycles are good for sony, Microsoft, and nintendo.. Allows them to sell a console that's pretty cheap to produce.. It's awful for consumers.. These current consoles already struggle to keep up with PC standards.. This gen needs to be over in the next 3 years or the gap between pc and console is going to be huge..

@quadknight: well wiiu will be 3 years old this year so announcing new Nintendo console next year makes sense they may be the reason that ms or even Sony is forced into a new console also would have to do w how long they waited before releasing ps4:Xbox one

Microsoft had NO reason to be arrogant but they did. PS3 surpassed 360 and they still didn't see that as threat. Now we are here with the PS4 taking 50% of the market. It's sad, really.

MS and Nintendo's crappy hardware is more likely to force an earlier release than Sony's sales.

Don't hold your breath. Nintendo is releasing a new system to be able to compete better with the PS4 and XB1. The manufacturing costs of the PS4 and XB1 are just to high for either company to consider releasing a new console in the next 3 to 4 years. I don't know why you aren't happy with the power that already sits under the hood of your PS4. As this was a much bigger jump in hardware technology compared from to the last 2 previous gen's jump in technology. You pretty much have a low end gaming rig.

Will PS4's lead force next gen to come early?

NO.

The best strategy for consoles is to release moderately powerful machines every 5 years for no more then $400

The PS4's lead will ensure Microsoft launches the xbox 720 no later then 2018, forcing Sony to launch then too.

Don't care about lenght but i hope microsoft at least will learn the lesson and don't make a piece of garbage console next time.

You're too smart for SW, please leave now.

well it definitely wont be next year or even the year after that before a console is released so closest possible time I can see is 2018 which would be about 5 years later . 5 years seems like a reasonable time to debut/release a new console

Nintendo will probably launch their next console earlier than Sony and Microsoft again, since they have discussed its development. But that probably won't even happen until a few years from now - 2-4 years I'll assume is when the NX will launch.

The other two will probably wait longer than that, but I assume Microsoft will want to move on to the next-gen before Sony. Microsoft was eager to usher in a lot of ideas that fans forced them to revise this gen.

I'll give Microsoft their 5 years then they will come out with a new console and probably drop all support for the current.

Although I would be more debating if they will even make a new console or double down on PC...

I hope not, i've got my PC for if i want to make frequent upgrades to keep near the top end graphically. I like consoles for their value, i like being able to drop £300 on a machine and feel comfortable that i can get 6+ years out of it. The games really needed the extra power by the end of the last gen and there's been a good jump in user friendliness through the better OS's and multitasking that make the consoles feel like big improvements. If the gen ends earlier i don't think we'd see the same level of improvements so i'd need something really game changing to convince me. Last gen brought multimedia and online gaming, this gen has given us a far more user friendly experience and multitasking, where could the next gen consoles go bar more graphical power?

Heck people complain about the lack of power in the current consoles but want much shorter gens? Fewer years to a gen to recoup on R&D and subsidizing hardware will only lead to skimping on hardware in consoles compared to the PC and further nickle and diming. Never mind that first year game lineups are usually mediocre.

The PS2's lead wasn't why MS pushed the Xbox 360 out, it had to do with it's problems with Nvidia supplying the GPUs and not being flexible on the price, it partially why none of the big three want anything to do with Nvidia on their 8th gen systems and why Nvidia was so butthurt by it. Nvidia had amassed a good fortune on licensing for Xbox emulation BC on Xbox 360 and also had a hand in the PS3's Reality Synthesizer GPU feature. After that both MS and Sony and Nintendo wanted nothing to do with Nvidia, and Nvidia went all publically bitter about it like an angry ex-girlfriend.

Anyhow, the PS4's dominance won't signal start of the 9th gen, rather Nintendo's 8th gen failure will take care of that by itself.

The wii had stronger sales if I recall. It didn't make the gen any shorter...

Probably. I can see the next Ninteno console out soon because the Wii U unfortunately did not set the world alight.

There won't be another Xbox console so there's no point anticipating that though.