Will DreamCast 2 Crash gaming in 2012?

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#1 comstrikeiscool
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If DreamCast 2 comes out in 2012, would gaming take a crash with 4 consoles on the market? http://www.videogamer.com/news/06-12-2007-7049.html

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#2 BambooBanger
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If DreamCast 2 comes out in 2012, would gaming take a crash with 4 consoles on the market? http://www.videogamer.com/news/06-12-2007-7049.html

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Um no, the market has grown DRAMATICALY since the last crash, I doubt another one would happen soon unless several other companies jumped on the bandwagon.

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#3 Prince_Denspion
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No, it will save us from a gaming crash in 2012, we just gotta worry about the end of the world :p.
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I didn't realise Sega had the kind of funding needed to get into the console race anymore.
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#5 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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The dreamcast one couldnt even put a dent in gameing what makes you think another one will "crush" gameing as we know it :lol:

I see the dreamcast like killzone the 1st on was complete garbage (They had a couple of good games though) so why support the second :?

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The only reason I wouldn't have touched a Dreamcast is because all of it's best games were coming out only in Japan :/
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#7 BambooBanger
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The dreamcast one couldnt even put a dent in gameing what makes you think another one will "crush" gameing as we know it :lol:

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People wont be looking back fondly and wishing the Wii were still around in 10 years time.

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The dreamcast one couldnt even put a dent in gameing what makes you think another one will "crush" gameing as we know it :lol:

I see the dreamcast like killzone the 1st on was complete garbage (They had a couple of good games though) so why support the second :?

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While the dreamcast managed to flop abit. You cant say it was "garbage". it had some fantastic games on it! shenmue, Sonic adventure, powerstone 1 and 2, Resident evil Code veronica, resident evil 1-3, capcom vs snk, Marvel vs capcom, Jet set Radio, metropolis street racer, fur fighters, dead or alive 2, crazy taxi, Virtua Fighter 3. Just to name a few lol :)

seriously. it was a great console, and the fact it flopped and sega layed off the console market, was quite possibly the biggest travesty in gaming history.

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#9 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

The dreamcast one couldnt even put a dent in gameing what makes you think another one will "crush" gameing as we know it :lol:

I see the dreamcast like killzone the 1st on was complete garbage (They had a couple of good games though) so why support the second :?

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While the dreamcast managed to flop abit. You cant say it was "garbage". it had some fantastic games on it! shenmue, Sonic adventure, powerstone 1 and 2, Resident evil Code veronica, resident evil 1-3, capcom vs snk, Marvel vs capcom, Jet set Radio, metropolis street racer, fur fighters, dead or alive 2, crazy taxi, Virtua Fighter 3. Just to name a few lol :)

seriously. it was a great console, and the fact it flopped and sega layed off the console market, was quite possibly the biggest travesty in gaming history.

I said it had a couple of good games but in all it was an overhyped system that failed to meet my expectations. And sorry but I HATED shenmue I wasted 60 bucks on that pile :(.
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#10 Xire_XII
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I doubt it will but I honestly don't think there's a new for another system. I'm already feeling a bit light in my wallet due to owning all three of the systems right now. We'll see though, as long as it has good games it's a buy. Yet I don't think gaming would crash once more, at least with the introduction of DC2.

Also, on another subject. What would we call followers of the DC2? Dreamers? Possibly because they "Dream" about the games that will come but never do?

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Oh god it would be a disaster if Sega re-entered the console market, they have nothing. All their game franchises have gone down hill.
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Yes it won't.
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If a V.G. crash is forthcoming; on this one, Sega will not challenge Nintendo Wii for that historical distinction as Nintendo has that one wrapped up should it really happen again - some say it's precisely what "N" is trying to do.

Great for "N" - bad for gamers. :?

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#14 SyinnX
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I truly think Dreamcast was a great system. It was something new, and I guess some people were scared or something. But at the same time Sega did waste lots of money on stupid things. Lets see there was sega genesis, sega 32x, sega cd, sega gamegear, sega saturn ... and more. But you get my point, they wasted lots of money on stupid things. But when I thought they finaly did something good (Dreamcast), they decide to pull the plug. But it would be great to have Sega back, it would def have some great games. Shenmue for one was a great game, loved that game.
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yeah having to many options is bad, all that would do is cause even more games to go multiplat since fans of series of agame will be spread out between the4 and exclusive games wont sell well, plus now devs will have to speand more time and more money porting it to the dreamcast 2. unles dreamcast2 only has sega games on it which it most likely wont
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let me get the flame shield ready:

there we are...now as for my 2 cents.

if the dreamcast 2 and sega were to enter the console war in 2012, there may still be 3 consoles: the xbox 720, the nintendo (future project), and the sega dreamcast 2. where's the sony ps4, you ask? well they will not be in the console race anymore. with things going the way they are for sony and the ps3, them entering the console war for another battle is out of the question. they sold off their share of the cell to toshiba and said they will no longer be involved with it. by sony's own admission, they said that they will be restructuring their company by selling off unprofitable divisions and focusing on their profitable divisions (cameras, tv's, and computers.) they have lost billions in the R&D and production of the ps3 which will take them years to make back (like ms...beat you to it cows :P). also, the most tell tale sign of them all, ms and nintendo not only have already started to design their new consoles, they let us know fo their intentions. ms said they will design and manufacture their own cpu of the xbox 720 and nintendo said their forthcoming console will incorporate 1080p. sony has remained mum on this matter. for those that feel "so what. this doesn't mean anything", remember, sony started designing the ps3 one year BEFORE the launch of the ps2.

next gens competitors will be the xbox 720, nintendo (future project), and the sega dreamcast.

on a personal note, hopefully ms enters the portable gaming market.

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let me get the flame shield ready:

there we are...now as for my 2 cents.

if the dreamcast 2 and sega were to enter the console war in 2012, there may still be 3 consoles: the xbox 720, the nintendo (future project), and the sega dreamcast 2. where's the sony ps4, you ask? well they will not be in the console race anymore. with things going the way they are for sony and the ps3, them entering the console war for another battle is out of the question. they sold off their share of the cell to toshiba and said they will no longer be involved with it. by sony's own admission, they said that they will be restructuring their company by selling off unprofitable divisions and focusing on their profitable divisions (cameras, tv's, and computers.) they have lost billions in the R&D and production of the ps3 which will take them years to make back (like ms...beat you to it cows :P). also, the most tell tale sign of them all, ms and nintendo not only have already started to design their new consoles, they let us know fo their intentions. ms said they will design and manufacture their own cpu of the xbox 720 and nintendo said their forthcoming console will incorporate 1080p. sony has remained mum on this matter. for those that feel "so what. this doesn't mean anything", remember, sony started designing the ps3 one year BEFORE the launch of the ps2.

next gens competitors will be the xbox 720, nintendo (future project), and the sega dreamcast.

on a personal note, hopefully ms enters the portable gaming market.

latinrage69

Note highlighted.

I just can't wait for the loyal sheep this gen who shout from the roof top how graphics, A.I. On-line and the rest don't matter only to have them same sheep next gen argue how Nintendo has the best or most powerful console and the graphics are the selling point !

You all know this will be the case don't you ? :lol:

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Sega simply dont have to income to support a new console anymore, as all of it's traditional brands have either been sold off to other companies or become plain terrible. As for the PS3, it will probably win over the 360 eventually, but i dont think it will have a landslide victory like the PS2 did. The Wii's days are numbered once games with graphics and gameplay that games such as Killzone 2 will offer become common, probably around 2009 ish is my best guess.
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[QUOTE="latinrage69"]

let me get the flame shield ready:

there we are...now as for my 2 cents.

if the dreamcast 2 and sega were to enter the console war in 2012, there may still be 3 consoles: the xbox 720, the nintendo (future project), and the sega dreamcast 2. where's the sony ps4, you ask? well they will not be in the console race anymore. with things going the way they are for sony and the ps3, them entering the console war for another battle is out of the question. they sold off their share of the cell to toshiba and said they will no longer be involved with it. by sony's own admission, they said that they will be restructuring their company by selling off unprofitable divisions and focusing on their profitable divisions (cameras, tv's, and computers.) they have lost billions in the R&D and production of the ps3 which will take them years to make back (like ms...beat you to it cows :P). also, the most tell tale sign of them all, ms and nintendo not only have already started to design their new consoles, they let us know fo their intentions. ms said they will design and manufacture their own cpu of the xbox 720 and nintendo said their forthcoming console will incorporate 1080p. sony has remained mum on this matter. for those that feel "so what. this doesn't mean anything", remember, sony started designing the ps3 one year BEFORE the launch of the ps2.

next gens competitors will be the xbox 720, nintendo (future project), and the sega dreamcast.

on a personal note, hopefully ms enters the portable gaming market.

SecretPolice

Note highlighted.

I just can't wait for the loyal sheep this gen who shout from the roof top how graphics, A.I. On-line and the rest don't matter only to have them same sheep next gen argue how Nintendo has the best or most powerful console and the graphics are the selling point !

You all know this will be the case don't you ? :lol:

that's so true. case in point: cows. last gen they had a console with the worst graphics but the most sales in units. this gen cows say that the ps3 has superior graphics (despite the fact that every game on the 360 looks better. one specifically: gears of war.) and that sales don't matter, only waiting does. the ps2 also had the most games of any of the last gen consoles while the ps3 is virtually devoid of games. hell of a movie player though, although i can download full-length HD movies from the xbox live video marketplace and stream HD video from my computer to the xbox while the ps3 doesn't have an online movie store and the video streaming is limited to mpeg 2 and some, but anot all mpeg 4 (no divx, xvid, or avi, just h.264).

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Sega simply dont have to income to support a new console anymore, as all of it's traditional brands have either been sold off to other companies or become plain terrible. As for the PS3, it will probably win over the 360 eventually, but i dont think it will have a landslide victory like the PS2 did. The Wii's days are numbered once games with graphics and gameplay that games such as Killzone 2 will offer become common, probably around 2009 ish is my best guess.thekodaman

all of the highlighted is BS.

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SAVE_US.DC2
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let me get the flame shield ready:

there we are...now as for my 2 cents.

if the dreamcast 2 and sega were to enter the console war in 2012, there may still be 3 consoles: the xbox 720, the nintendo (future project), and the sega dreamcast 2. where's the sony ps4, you ask? well they will not be in the console race anymore. with things going the way they are for sony and the ps3, them entering the console war for another battle is out of the question. they sold off their share of the cell to toshiba and said they will no longer be involved with it. by sony's own admission, they said that they will be restructuring their company by selling off unprofitable divisions and focusing on their profitable divisions (cameras, tv's, and computers.) they have lost billions in the R&D and production of the ps3 which will take them years to make back (like ms...beat you to it cows :P). also, the most tell tale sign of them all, ms and nintendo not only have already started to design their new consoles, they let us know fo their intentions. ms said they will design and manufacture their own cpu of the xbox 720 and nintendo said their forthcoming console will incorporate 1080p. sony has remained mum on this matter. for those that feel "so what. this doesn't mean anything", remember, sony started designing the ps3 one year BEFORE the launch of the ps2.

next gens competitors will be the xbox 720, nintendo (future project), and the sega dreamcast.

on a personal note, hopefully ms enters the portable gaming market.

latinrage69

Sorry to tell you this, but microsoft will end up in last place this console gen.

PS3 has already seen a huge boost in sales since the lower priced models have came out. The xbox 360 hasn't sold more than 4.5 million units since the PS3's launch. the Ps3 has. And now they are selling enough, that soon they will over throw xbox 360 for 2nd place. But they won't overthrow The Wii from 1st. It's impossible to beat nintendo this generation, they have played their cards tooooooo damn well. And won.

Seriously consider how much the xbox has only sold 80% of their hardware in the USA only. and 18% in europe and other surrounding countries. And less than what? 400k in Japan?

Think without your fanboy mind for a second, and you will agree with my statement. And soon it will be proven a fact.

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Sorry to tell you this, but microsoft will end up in last place this console gen.

PS3 has already seen a huge boost in sales since the lower priced models have came out. The xbox 360 hasn't sold more than 4.5 million units since the PS3's launch. the Ps3 has. And now they are selling enough, that soon they will over throw xbox 360 for 2nd place. But they won't overthrow The Wii from 1st. It's impossible to beat nintendo this generation, they have played their cards tooooooo damn well. And won.

Seriously consider how much the xbox has only sold 80% of their hardware in the USA only. and 18% in europe and other surrounding countries. And less than what? 400k in Japan?

Think without your fanboy mind for a second, and you will agree with my statement. And soon it will be proven a fact.

grandlx2
Yep, because the 360 is only beating the PS3 in sales worldwide(America+Europe+Japan) every month and the PS3 has yet to change that trend. You sir are right. Nice FACT you posted. That'll show 360 Fanboys :-|
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sony will be out of the race by then.
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[QUOTE="grandlx2"][QUOTE="latinrage69"]

let me get the flame shield ready:

there we are...now as for my 2 cents.

if the dreamcast 2 and sega were to enter the console war in 2012, there may still be 3 consoles: the xbox 720, the nintendo (future project), and the sega dreamcast 2. where's the sony ps4, you ask? well they will not be in the console race anymore. with things going the way they are for sony and the ps3, them entering the console war for another battle is out of the question. they sold off their share of the cell to toshiba and said they will no longer be involved with it. by sony's own admission, they said that they will be restructuring their company by selling off unprofitable divisions and focusing on their profitable divisions (cameras, tv's, and computers.) they have lost billions in the R&D and production of the ps3 which will take them years to make back (like ms...beat you to it cows :P). also, the most tell tale sign of them all, ms and nintendo not only have already started to design their new consoles, they let us know fo their intentions. ms said they will design and manufacture their own cpu of the xbox 720 and nintendo said their forthcoming console will incorporate 1080p. sony has remained mum on this matter. for those that feel "so what. this doesn't mean anything", remember, sony started designing the ps3 one year BEFORE the launch of the ps2.

next gens competitors will be the xbox 720, nintendo (future project), and the sega dreamcast.

on a personal note, hopefully ms enters the portable gaming market.

Sdur001

Sorry to tell you this, but microsoft will end up in last place this console gen.

PS3 has already seen a huge boost in sales since the lower priced models have came out. The xbox 360 hasn't sold more than 4.5 million units since the PS3's launch. the Ps3 has. And now they are selling enough, that soon they will over throw xbox 360 for 2nd place. But they won't overthrow The Wii from 1st. It's impossible to beat nintendo this generation, they have played their cards tooooooo damn well. And won.

Seriously consider how much the xbox has only sold 80% of their hardware in the USA only. and 18% in europe and other surrounding countries. And less than what? 400k in Japan?

Think without your fanboy mind for a second, and you will agree with my statement. And soon it will be proven a fact.

Yep, because the 360 is only beating the PS3 in sales worldwide every month and the PS3 has yet to change that trend. You sir are right. Nice FACT you posted that'll show 360 Fanboys :-|

Worldwide eh? Show me the 360's sells for Europe, and Japan.

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sony will be out of the race by then.shoeman12
Yeah because Sony doesn't make money on anything but the PS3. Let us not count the PSP/PS2/PS3 that are still selling well.

I really hope you guys are not adults!

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Interesting. more choices for the consumer the better. I had some good times on the Dreamcast, good luck Sega if this pans out that is!
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#29 Sdur001
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Worldwide eh? Show me the 360's sells for Europe, and Japan.

grandlx2

LOL, I knew I was gonna have to elaborate on this to you. I mean combined sales. The 360 is outselling the PS3 in combined sales. If you need proof please go to any website that post console sold this year (or even you can combine the NPDs for this year).

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[QUOTE="latinrage69"]

let me get the flame shield ready:

there we are...now as for my 2 cents.

if the dreamcast 2 and sega were to enter the console war in 2012, there may still be 3 consoles: the xbox 720, the nintendo (future project), and the sega dreamcast 2. where's the sony ps4, you ask? well they will not be in the console race anymore. with things going the way they are for sony and the ps3, them entering the console war for another battle is out of the question. they sold off their share of the cell to toshiba and said they will no longer be involved with it. by sony's own admission, they said that they will be restructuring their company by selling off unprofitable divisions and focusing on their profitable divisions (cameras, tv's, and computers.) they have lost billions in the R&D and production of the ps3 which will take them years to make back (like ms...beat you to it cows :P). also, the most tell tale sign of them all, ms and nintendo not only have already started to design their new consoles, they let us know fo their intentions. ms said they will design and manufacture their own cpu of the xbox 720 and nintendo said their forthcoming console will incorporate 1080p. sony has remained mum on this matter. for those that feel "so what. this doesn't mean anything", remember, sony started designing the ps3 one year BEFORE the launch of the ps2.

next gens competitors will be the xbox 720, nintendo (future project), and the sega dreamcast.

on a personal note, hopefully ms enters the portable gaming market.

grandlx2

Sorry to tell you this, but microsoft will end up in last place this console gen.

PS3 has already seen a huge boost in sales since the lower priced models have came out. The xbox 360 hasn't sold more than 4.5 million units since the PS3's launch. the Ps3 has. And now they are selling enough, that soon they will over throw xbox 360 for 2nd place. But they won't overthrow The Wii from 1st. It's impossible to beat nintendo this generation, they have played their cards tooooooo damn well. And won.

Seriously consider how much the xbox has only sold 80% of their hardware in the USA only. and 18% in europe and other surrounding countries. And less than what? 400k in Japan?

Think without your fanboy mind for a second, and you will agree with my statement. And soon it will be proven a fact.

the gba was outselling the ps3 up until november so how is the ps3 selling well. even at $400 sony can't get enough people to buy their blu-ray player with some sort of "gaming" capability. seriously, it's been two years and though ms is at second place behind the wii (not by that much mind you), the ps3 will never catch up. it's said that first impressions speak volumes, and in sony's case, their first impression left everyone speechless. how the hell are you going to come into the market with a $600 console after saying that even if the ps3 came to market without any games, they will sell 5 million units. how did that go again? oh yea, they sold 1 million units then the sales came to a screeching halt until the euro launch 4 months later in march.

the ps3 will be in dead last until next gen and they will NOT enter the next gen. they have lost too much money on the utter failure that is the ps3. why do you think ken kutaragi is no longer leading the gaming division? if he didn't step down, they would have fired his ass for losing $2 billion in 2 months. ms didn't lose that much money until half way though the life of the xbox original (that's 2 YEARS not 2 MONTHS!)

say "goodbye" to sony and "welcome back" to SEGA!!!

edit:

off topic but this is for everyone: type kutaragi then do a spell check. click the word and see the first suggested correction. it's priceless.

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edit:

off topic but this is for everyone: type outrage then do a spell check. click the word and see the first suggested correction. it's priceless.

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lmfao
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The dreamcast one couldnt even put a dent in gameing what makes you think another one will "crush" gameing as we know it :lol:

I see the dreamcast like killzone the 1st on was complete garbage (They had a couple of good games though) so why support the second :?

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Dreamcast 2 that would rule.
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[QUOTE="latinrage69"]

edit:

off topic but this is for everyone: type kutaragi then do a spell check. click the word and see the first suggested correction. it's priceless.

itsme185



lmfao

about your sig:

"have you even heard of teh blu-ray?! it's teh future!!"

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[QUOTE="latinrage69"]

let me get the flame shield ready:

there we are...now as for my 2 cents.

if the dreamcast 2 and sega were to enter the console war in 2012, there may still be 3 consoles: the xbox 720, the nintendo (future project), and the sega dreamcast 2. where's the sony ps4, you ask? well they will not be in the console race anymore. with things going the way they are for sony and the ps3, them entering the console war for another battle is out of the question. they sold off their share of the cell to toshiba and said they will no longer be involved with it. by sony's own admission, they said that they will be restructuring their company by selling off unprofitable divisions and focusing on their profitable divisions (cameras, tv's, and computers.) they have lost billions in the R&D and production of the ps3 which will take them years to make back (like ms...beat you to it cows :P). also, the most tell tale sign of them all, ms and nintendo not only have already started to design their new consoles, they let us know fo their intentions. ms said they will design and manufacture their own cpu of the xbox 720 and nintendo said their forthcoming console will incorporate 1080p. sony has remained mum on this matter. for those that feel "so what. this doesn't mean anything", remember, sony started designing the ps3 one year BEFORE the launch of the ps2.

next gens competitors will be the xbox 720, nintendo (future project), and the sega dreamcast.

on a personal note, hopefully ms enters the portable gaming market.

grandlx2

Sorry to tell you this, but microsoft will end up in last place this console gen.

PS3 has already seen a huge boost in sales since the lower priced models have came out. The xbox 360 hasn't sold more than 4.5 million units since the PS3's launch. the Ps3 has. And now they are selling enough, that soon they will over throw xbox 360 for 2nd place. But they won't overthrow The Wii from 1st. It's impossible to beat nintendo this generation, they have played their cards tooooooo damn well. And won.

Seriously consider how much the xbox has only sold 80% of their hardware in the USA only. and 18% in europe and other surrounding countries. And less than what? 400k in Japan?

Think without your fanboy mind for a second, and you will agree with my statement. And soon it will be proven a fact.

Unfortunately, I've been hoping for a total flop from Nintendo (the GameCube was close) that would send them the way of SEGA... how sweet would it be to buy Mario, Zelda, and Metroid games for your 360 or PS3? I dislike my Wii. I would rather have less quirky controllers to play Nintendo's great franchises.

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:oNostradamus is true:o The Dreamcast returns to purge the unbelievers in 2012!

All Hail Sega!

All Hail Dreamcast!

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#37 goodlay
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This article is from June 12th, 2007 :? I really don't think this is going to happen, not at all.
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This article is from June 12th, 2007 :? I really don't think this is going to happen, not at all.goodlay

You read it backwards dude.

6/12/07 in europe is 6th, December, 2007

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No, it will save us from a gaming crash in 2012, we just gotta worry about the end of the world :p. Prince_Denspion
Agreed. I don't think I'll make it to be 40 years old with the way the world is going...Man humans fight for such insignificant reasons.
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[QUOTE="oddballrulez"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]

The dreamcast one couldnt even put a dent in gameing what makes you think another one will "crush" gameing as we know it :lol:

I see the dreamcast like killzone the 1st on was complete garbage (They had a couple of good games though) so why support the second :?

Gh0st_Of_0nyx

While the dreamcast managed to flop abit. You cant say it was "garbage". it had some fantastic games on it! shenmue, Sonic adventure, powerstone 1 and 2, Resident evil Code veronica, resident evil 1-3, capcom vs snk, Marvel vs capcom, Jet set Radio, metropolis street racer, fur fighters, dead or alive 2, crazy taxi, Virtua Fighter 3. Just to name a few lol :)

seriously. it was a great console, and the fact it flopped and sega layed off the console market, was quite possibly the biggest travesty in gaming history.

I said it had a couple of good games but in all it was an overhyped system that failed to meet my expectations. And sorry but I HATED shenmue I wasted 60 bucks on that pile :(.

what do you know, thats about how i feel about the wii. i wasted 250 on it

i loved my dreamcast though....good times, good times

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[QUOTE="goodlay"]This article is from June 12th, 2007 :? I really don't think this is going to happen, not at all.Netherscourge

You read it backwards dude.

6/12/07 in europe is 6th, December, 2007

Ah, sorry I didn't notice.

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[QUOTE="latinrage69"]

let me get the flame shield ready:

there we are...now as for my 2 cents.

if the dreamcast 2 and sega were to enter the console war in 2012, there may still be 3 consoles: the xbox 720, the nintendo (future project), and the sega dreamcast 2. where's the sony ps4, you ask? well they will not be in the console race anymore. with things going the way they are for sony and the ps3, them entering the console war for another battle is out of the question. they sold off their share of the cell to toshiba and said they will no longer be involved with it. by sony's own admission, they said that they will be restructuring their company by selling off unprofitable divisions and focusing on their profitable divisions (cameras, tv's, and computers.) they have lost billions in the R&D and production of the ps3 which will take them years to make back (like ms...beat you to it cows :P). also, the most tell tale sign of them all, ms and nintendo not only have already started to design their new consoles, they let us know fo their intentions. ms said they will design and manufacture their own cpu of the xbox 720 and nintendo said their forthcoming console will incorporate 1080p. sony has remained mum on this matter. for those that feel "so what. this doesn't mean anything", remember, sony started designing the ps3 one year BEFORE the launch of the ps2.

next gens competitors will be the xbox 720, nintendo (future project), and the sega dreamcast.

on a personal note, hopefully ms enters the portable gaming market.

grandlx2

Sorry to tell you this, but microsoft will end up in last place this console gen.

PS3 has already seen a huge boost in sales since the lower priced models have came out. The xbox 360 hasn't sold more than 4.5 million units since the PS3's launch. the Ps3 has. And now they are selling enough, that soon they will over throw xbox 360 for 2nd place. But they won't overthrow The Wii from 1st. It's impossible to beat nintendo this generation, they have played their cards tooooooo damn well. And won.

Seriously consider how much the xbox has only sold 80% of their hardware in the USA only. and 18% in europe and other surrounding countries. And less than what? 400k in Japan?

Think without your fanboy mind for a second, and you will agree with my statement. And soon it will be proven a fact.

At the very least, not soon. The PS3 needs a massive sales spike to not only make up for being outsold in NA, but to dig themselves out of the one year hole the 360 has constructed for them. Whether or not they'll eventually take over 2nd place is anyone's guess, but there's no way in hell it'll be soon; not when the 360 outsells the PS3 in the biggest market in the world...

And if a Dreamcast 2 comes out, I think that essentially means that gaming nirvana has been reached...

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You know.... Dreamcast 2 would definately be somthing to watch out for. Consider the EXCLUSIVES...

Sonic the Hedgehog Games (Platformer)

Crazy Taxi (Arcade Racing)

Nights (Platformer)

Shinobi (Action - Ninja-Gaiden competition)

2K sports games (Visual Concepts is owned by Sega - they make NFL/APF 2K games, NHL 2K, MLB 2K, NBA 2K,etc... Imagine when EA's NFL license expires and VC can make NFL games again?)

Shenmue (not sure how to describe this one lol)

Phantasy Star (RPG/ORPG)

Skies of Arcadia (RPG)

Sega Rally and Sega GT(Racing)

Virtua Fighter Games (Fighting)

Jet Grind Radio (skating)

Space Channel 5 (Music/Rythm game)

Ecco the Dolphin (kiddie crap)

Sega could easily destroy both the Xbox 360 AND the PS3's launch lineups just with EXCLUSIVES...

Man - I hope this is true. And I hope Sega learned from it's past mistakes.

Heck, Sega could go with full HD-DVD support if they wanted, to knock out the 360 and to compete with Blu-Ray.

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You know.... Dreamcast 2 would definately be somthing to watch out for. Consider the EXCLUSIVES...

Sonic the Hedgehog Games (Platformer)

Crazy Taxi (Arcade Racing)

Nights (Platformer)

Shinobi (Action - Ninja-Gaiden competition)

2K sports games (Visual Concepts is owned by Sega - they make NFL/APF 2K games, NHL 2K, MLB 2K, NBA 2K,etc... Imagine when EA's NFL license expires and VC can make NFL games again?)

Shenmue (not sure how to describe this one lol)

Phantasy Star (RPG/ORPG)

Skies of Arcadia (RPG)

Sega Rally and Sega GT(Racing)

Virtua Fighter Games (Fighting)

Jet Grind Radio (skating)

Space Channel 5 (Music/Rythm game)

Ecco the Dolphin (kiddie crap)

Sega could easily destroy both the Xbox 360 AND the PS3's launch lineups just with EXCLUSIVES...

Man - I hope this is true. And I hope Sega learned from it's past mistakes.

Heck, Sega could go with full HD-DVD support if they wanted, to knock out the 360 and to compete with Blu-Ray.

Netherscourge

i dont think anything u just listed are exclusives anymore. im not sure how this legal "who owns what rights" stuff works, but a lot of the games you listed have been on other consoles since the dreamcast failed

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i dont think anything u just listed are exclusives anymore. im not sure how this legal "who owns what rights" stuff works, but a lot of the games you listed have been on other consoles since the dreamcast failed

REforever101

Sega owns the rights to ALL those franchises... They can limit new versions of those games to their own console if they choose to in the future.

The same way Square Enix can pick and choose the platforms it makes games for, so can any other Developer/Publisher.

The only reason Sega makes multi-plats NOW is because they don't have their own console on the market right now.

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[QUOTE="REforever101"]

i dont think anything u just listed are exclusives anymore. im not sure how this legal "who owns what rights" stuff works, but a lot of the games you listed have been on other consoles since the dreamcast failed

Netherscourge

Sega owns the right to ALL those franchises... They can limit new versions of those games to their own console if they choose to in the future.

The same way Square Enix can pick and choose the platforms it makes games for, so can any other Developer/Publisher.

oh, i c. thxs for clearing that up

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dreamcast 2 debunked.

link

too bad, though. i was really looking foward to it.

"Sega of America PR Director Charlie Scibetta is currently looking into the trademark issue and why it was updated. In the meantime he told us that Sega "has no plans to get back into the console business," adding, "We're very happy being a platform agnostic company and have moved up the ranks the past three years from #11, to #9, and now stand at #6 in terms of our market share by units among third-party publishers. We like our current strategy and have no plans to change in the middle of this outstanding growth."

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[QUOTE="latinrage69"]

let me get the flame shield ready:

there we are...now as for my 2 cents.

if the dreamcast 2 and sega were to enter the console war in 2012, there may still be 3 consoles: the xbox 720, the nintendo (future project), and the sega dreamcast 2. where's the sony ps4, you ask? well they will not be in the console race anymore. with things going the way they are for sony and the ps3, them entering the console war for another battle is out of the question. they sold off their share of the cell to toshiba and said they will no longer be involved with it. by sony's own admission, they said that they will be restructuring their company by selling off unprofitable divisions and focusing on their profitable divisions (cameras, tv's, and computers.) they have lost billions in the R&D and production of the ps3 which will take them years to make back (like ms...beat you to it cows :P). also, the most tell tale sign of them all, ms and nintendo not only have already started to design their new consoles, they let us know fo their intentions. ms said they will design and manufacture their own cpu of the xbox 720 and nintendo said their forthcoming console will incorporate 1080p. sony has remained mum on this matter. for those that feel "so what. this doesn't mean anything", remember, sony started designing the ps3 one year BEFORE the launch of the ps2.

next gens competitors will be the xbox 720, nintendo (future project), and the sega dreamcast.

on a personal note, hopefully ms enters the portable gaming market.

SecretPolice

Note highlighted.

I just can't wait for the loyal sheep this gen who shout from the roof top how graphics, A.I. On-line and the rest don't matter only to have them same sheep next gen argue how Nintendo has the best or most powerful console and the graphics are the selling point !

You all know this will be the case don't you ? :lol:

stop reading when I saw the already planned and in the works ps4 being axed. Seriously where do u get crystal balls.

And understand that nintendo and M$ haven't really accomplished much considering their fanbase from last gen.

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Sega should learn how to make good games again before they make a new system.
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#50 ff7isnumbaone
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You know.... Dreamcast 2 would definately be somthing to watch out for. Consider the EXCLUSIVES...

Sonic the Hedgehog Games (Platformer)

Crazy Taxi (Arcade Racing)

Nights (Platformer)

Shinobi (Action - Ninja-Gaiden competition)

2K sports games (Visual Concepts is owned by Sega - they make NFL/APF 2K games, NHL 2K, MLB 2K, NBA 2K,etc... Imagine when EA's NFL license expires and VC can make NFL games again?)

Shenmue (not sure how to describe this one lol)

Phantasy Star (RPG/ORPG)

Skies of Arcadia (RPG)

Sega Rally and Sega GT(Racing)

Virtua Fighter Games (Fighting)

Jet Grind Radio (skating)

Space Channel 5 (Music/Rythm game)

Ecco the Dolphin (kiddie crap)

Sega could easily destroy both the Xbox 360 AND the PS3's launch lineups just with EXCLUSIVES...

Man - I hope this is true. And I hope Sega learned from it's past mistakes.

Heck, Sega could go with full HD-DVD support if they wanted, to knock out the 360 and to compete with Blu-Ray.

Netherscourge

Add spartan total war from ps2. Sure their gonna make a total war for it.