Will console focus result in an even more simplistic fallout?

I believe your threads to truly be the worst.

Friend, why do you have to be a fakeboy. You would be much more entertaining if you supported the consoles as the consolite you truly are.

Even Skyrim is better than this TC.

Meh thread.

if they want good scores and sales being complex is not an option. That is for sure.

Simplicity is awesome.

I believe your assessment of RPG means diddly shit. Calling the Elder Scrolls latest "COD with swords" is bullshit extremism, whis is what you are accusing the devs of doing, so that's an instafail. And just because the witcher 3 is expanding its world to be more open doesn't mean its copying. Fail, do not pass GO, in fact hand your money to Charizard1605 and just stop playing games.

if Obsidian makes it, the game will actually have some depth to it. If Bethesda makes it, it'll be a fun little amusement park for escapists, but the core gameplay will be dull if you aren't super quick to buy into their game worlds.

Objectively (as in fact) Bethesda games have became increasingly simplistic as well as being influenced by other streamlined titles, including Calls Of Duty's and Bioshocks.

It's a fact. What I said was a fact. Based on reality. Due to being a fact. Using evidence from reality, makes it a fact.

umm wat was teh question again?

@jg4xchamp: I still don't see where new Vegas out does fallout 3. Forget my gripes with launch day bugs, I didn't enjoy post apocalyptic Vegas over the world Bethesda built around DC and I didn't think obsidian stuffed it with as many memorable moments , characters and side quests as fallout 3 did. I will say though that the fallout magic had worn a little though by the time Vegas dropped and that obsidian improved a lot of aspects in the gameplay, much the same way they did with kotor2 and I'd be happy with them making another fallout game.

I still maintain that The Witcher is a superior franchise to The Elder Scrolls.

I'm sorry to say my console brethren, but Kotor 1 is a poor mans Planescape Torement requiring a gimmick plot twist as opposed to any actual meaning or depth, as a superior title (like Planetscape Torement has).

The action gameplay is KOTOR 2 is poor, just as KOTOR 1 is poor due to console limitations. However, the story-telling is well beyond anything Bioware has done, or probably will ever do.

At this point, it's pretty unarguable Obsidian do the best job of letting the player actually play a bad guy. Bioware (being pretentious pricks) do not even want the player to be given the option of being bad. Instead they opt to make awkward sex scenes with plastic surgery burn victims.

I liked Fallout 3 much more than New Vegas, so things seem to be on a downward trend, for me at least. I did however like the somewhat simpler and smaller skills system of New Vegas. Same could be said of Skyrim though, I liked the updates to the leveling system but the game itself was rather lacking. I realize Obsidian did New Vegas and not Bethesda, but Bethesda isn't giving me the confidence I used to have in it after Skyrim. In Skyrim they nailed gameplay mechanics but left out the gameplay, mainly the meaty quests and instead relied on auto-generated quests of "the Jarl wants you to kill a troll/dragon, kill it and come back for your reward". Hopefully Bethesda doesn't take a similar approach to Fallout.

Anyhow, it's not console focus itself I feel is huttng these games, I think it's rather in general designing these games for the multiple systems probably is wasting development resources. Not that I felt these games were simplified in a sense to cater to a wider audience, though there was a big jump in accessibility for the series with Fallout 3. But as of late, I worry given the success of the games publishers want to pump them out quicker and aren't giving them the time and resources they need to keep the games up to the same level of quality of their attention grabbing successes. That goes for other publishers and IPs too.

Its up to Bethesda being lazy. do you know how much cash they saved using Oblivion engine.

They just need to improve the gunplay, it should feel like playing a normal shooter without the clunky tank like feeling, need a new engine for it to work well.

I think an isometric game, that's an RPG, designed for pc, that's good would probably be a better course.