Wii U = great idea ; poorly executed

I could imagine a future video game console for gen-9 using the same concept, but better executed:

AKA:

1. strong launch
2. strong hardware specs for longevity
3. solid third-party support from all major developers
4. tablet gamepad is at 1080p resolution, featuring 10 hour battery life
5. quality free drawing/notetaking app for the gamepad
6. better marketing

IMO, if Wii U got all these things right (#4 may not have been feasible), it would've been Muhammad Ali

Strong hardware and a tablet that displays at 1080P that can last about 10 hours?

Might as well make the entire thing out of ivory. Keep it affordable like that.

It would have cost a lot more, and still the third party would be wary. Nintendo is in a catch 22 because of past mistakes.

If you want another $600 console disaster again sure. I think the WiiU's biggest issues are it's price and its name/marketing.

...and very few good games.

I think the other issues are factors of why it's selling like shit which in turn is hurting it from getting games it can clearly run.

1. Tell that to the Xbone and PS4 as well.
2. The strongest console has never won the generation. In fact, it's almost always been the weakest.
3. Third party's don't develop for Nintendo consoles because they don't like competing with Nintendo first party, not because there isn't strong enough hardware. The N64 and Gamecube proved this already.
4. You know how much this would increase the costs? In today's hardware standards, you'd be looking at a $600-700 console.
5. For?
6. They are already working on that.

It has more quality exclusive than either the PS4 and Bone. Almost combined.

WiiU have not much good exclusive other than Mario... Zombiu and Lego City Undecover that is over 1 year old now, what else?

i got a wiiu last week and i actually think its the opposite.

its a poor idea executed very well. but still a poor idea. the tablet conroller has yet to add any value to gaming. the wiimote and nunchuck were a far more interesting proposition and i wish nintendo made a wiimote and nunchuck 2.

but the integration of the controller into the console is fansastic. the streaming of video to the pad is crystal clear, very responisve and ultra smooth. switching a game from the TV to the pad goes without the game skipping a beat. in terms of streaming games from the console to the pad it craps all over PS4/vita and shield/PC integration. i have to hand it to nintendo on this one....they didnt compromise on quality just because its wireless. a 60 FPS video feed and very responsive controls are all in there and the picture quality doesnt suffer.

there are a few mistakes. you cant charge the controller from the console so you need two power outlets and the battery life is quite poor. but overall the idea is executed very very well.

its just not a very good idea.

Wii U wasnt great idea , period.

What could revive the old , awesome Nintendo ( SNES like ) are

1) Release massive amount of exclusives ( 2 smash , 2 karts ,2 main marios , 2 Zeldas etc etc ) each gen. So will keep people hyped and excited for many years ( aka , console wont fall behind and eventually die like what it happened to Wii despite of its awesome sales )

2) Classic controller with motion controls being optional , no fancy things.

3) Better online features to match competition

4) THIRD PARTY SUPPORT !! this is a must

5) Release more 2D , nostalgic NES/SNES remakes with low prices to compete with competitions exclusive indies

6) Bring in NEW IPs other than the usual titles , dont have to be too many of those.

7) Hardware being on par with competitors , NOT a gen behind....

8) Solid marketing and hype around blockbuster titles that would be ready for release with the release of the new console.

Wow, you're out of touch. All games 80 or over on MC:

• Super Mario 3D World
• New Super Mario Bros. U/New Super Luigi U
• The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker HD
• Mario Kart 8
• Pikmin 3
• Batman: Arkham City Armored Edition
• Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze
• Lego City Undercover

PS4:

• Resogun/Heroes
• inFAMOUS: Second Son

Xbone:

• Forza Motorsport 5

Hey, look at that, I was right. There are more high-scoring exclusives on Wii U than the PS4 and Xbone combined.

I'm sorry,not to be too picky,but did'nt you forget Titanfall for the Xbox One. Just wondering???

The Wii U's an excellent console. The only bad aspect about it is the lack of third party support. The graphics hold up quite well (look at Nintendo Land, MK8, DKCTF etc), and hopefully, Nintendo keeps the gamepad an improves the display for the next console.

Best exclusives this gen.

It should've been like the PS4 controller instead.

Which allows you to uh...

Which can uh....

Well that touchpad allows you to...

Xbox One got Dead Rising 3, Ryse and Titanfall as well. If you are sick tired of Mario games and old remakes that WiiU list is cut in half or more. But yeah i know, if you not like Mario games stay away from Nintendo platform cuz you wont get any better games than mario...

Then the biggest issue, WiiU miss out on all multiplats...no way in hell any1 take WiiU as primary gaming platform.

Now tell us about multis , what Wii U aint having and you get your answer

If the WiiU had all those things it would be an even worse disaster. The WiiU failed because nintendo tried to aim for too many audiences at once(The console focused on the core gamer a bit to much also) and it alienated most of the audiences it was targeted for. The price, the pace of software releases and the marketing also hurt the console. If nintendo wants to have a successful next gen console they should try to build a console that is targeted towards their mainstream audience( The audience that bought the Wii and NES and some of their older handhelds to an extent). The console also has to be cheap,

I love my WiiU. I think more people will warm up to it. The uncertainty around the XBone and the PS4 is kind of unclouding itself in regards to what is going to go where. For gamers who really want the best variety, PS4 and WiiU go together like SNES and Genesis, son.

I agree with all of your other points, but this is just plain stupid.

the gamepad is already expensive, do you have any idea how much that would cost?

I thought WiiU's Launch was pretty strong. It had the Latest Call of Duty, Latest Tekken, Latest Darksiders, and the Latest Assassin's Creed as well as a Mario and a Zombie game with mechanics that was similar to Dark Souls, and that game could have came with your WiiU if you lived in Europe, otherwise you got this mini game party collection "Demo" for your WiiU to show off everything the Tablet can do.

7 games. Right off the Bat. That seems way better than the 3 or 4 most Xbox One or PS4 owners had for their Launches.

It's a shame that back in 2012 that Console got SLAMMED because it wasn't near Powerful enough to entice Gamers.

They wanted That Final Fantasy where you can see the old dude's nose hairs. They wanted the shiny car porn. They want the 4K resolution.

Why do you think the PS4 is the fastest selling console this generation? Because Gamers wanted those Graphics, because with Great Graphics comes with Better Future.

WiiU didn't show off that future. It was so bad that hope for the WiiU to continue to sell after 2013 was very bleak and many thought even Nintendo's high profile System Sellers Zelda, Smash, and Mario Kart won't be enough to save the console especially since Mario barely pushing sales with 3D World.

This E3 was almost a God Send, showing that Nintendo does have a plan to keep WiiU alive and does have a plan to keep the ball rolling even if 3rd Parties do abandon ship (and after Watchdogs it's doubtful Nintendo will ever see 3rd parties ever again). And It seems like that Plan is working, because most gamers are just NOW seeing what a neat system WiiU is and the advantage it clearly has over the competition. But the Previous point still stands, With 3rd Parties not on Board with Nintendo and Nintendo being forced to go and money hat exclusives like Devil's Third and Bayonetta 2 or giving their properties to developers at Team Ninja or Namco, it's obvious that They are struggling, Struggling HARD to stay relevant in this generation.

PS4 and Xbox One don't have to worry about that. Just EXISTING is enough for them to obtain 3rd Parties, purely because both parties know that the Playstation brand and Xbox brand THRIVE on 3rd Parties.

they have to expand the battery life. It's very possible to do so, and they even have an expansion port for it. I know that in principle it makes sense to save some cash and let people spend a little more if they wish, but it is embarrassing battery life that is maybe excusable in a year old console but at some point they should upgrade the product once the costs come down.

isn't that what they did with the 3DS?

Wii U failed to due Nintendo's arrogance & out of touch with today's core gamers. Arrogance because they thought the Wii name would sell so they didn't market the thing..you know you're in the shit when a year later, people still think your new console is a Wii add on device.

Out of touch - releasing such a weak hardware compared to competitions then claim they're for the core gamers..when devs have already moved to new hardware.

Then having an expensive controller (so expensive they won't even put it out to sell) but didn't bother utilising it...with exception of 1 or 2 games. Most of Nintendo games doesn't even make use of gamepad. They need to stop screwing around with wacky controllers...should have stuck with wiimote & improved on it...or just stick with the traditional controller - don't try to fix what's not broken. :P

The Core reason for the Gamepad was to play games without a TV and so far that is what the majority of all WiiU games do and it's done pretty well. Even if you're just playing Wii games you don't need a TV, let alone a Sensor bar, so I think the Gamepad is justified.

Touch Screen Controls are a different thing.

The other two points are pretty spot on. Nintendo didn't think at all about the future of this console and thought the Wii brand was enough to gain mass interest, but totally missed on the fact that the Wii brand actually HURT Nintendo if anything.

The wii u is failing because Nintendo has not matched up with MS and Sony. In fact the seem to be running away and trying to create a new market with gimmicks. Nintendo has had a long standing problem with 3rd party support. Nintendo also has a problem matching console features. They even went so far as to say our console is just for playing games. Nintendo also has the worst online gaming support. The ps4 is over 5x stronger than the wii u and only cost 100 bucks more.

Titanfall is on PC and 360 as well. :/

*shrugs*

Metacritic lists it as such. I know it has some exclusive content, but really, it isn't.

Ah, you don't care for the games therefore they don't count? That's all you have? The majority of gaming critics believe the Wii U has the most, best exclusives. Take that for what it is.

Not all "core gamers" want more AAA blockbusters. Also, when was the last time the most powerful console won the generation?

third party support would have been enough

Congratulations. You've won the prize. This is literally the 5,000th time this exact thread has been posted. I'll be sending you a 70's style microwave, which are then free to stick your head inside.

What about the Wii U was a good idea? Tablet gaming for consoles? You know why the Vita fails, right? Tablet/mobile gamers don't want to play console games. Nintendo desperately tried to catch all of those people again and they failed. They had them before smartphones existed and were commonplace with the Wii's motion gimmick, but now nobody cares. What that leaves them is a criminally underpowered unit which turns off the hardcore gamers and devs and something the other market doesn't want.

And would it KILL Nintendo to start using multi-touch tech found in those phones and tablets? They're so far behind the times when it comes to touchscreen tech. Honestly, that's Nintendo's biggest problem. They're more than a decade behind the everyone else. Online gaming should've been a top priority when designing the system, but they still think it's an extreme minority and most of us all hang around huddled in front of a tv to play games.

Wii U = great idea; mixed execution; poorly named/marketed

obviously the 1080p 10-hour battery life would be for next-gen in 2020.

dumbasses...

Hilariously enough, the WiiU had the strongest launch out of all 3 next gen consoles. It had decent third party and a few first party titles.

We still won't get a good battery.

The Wii-U is a bust, plain and simple. I doubt we'll see another tablet controller, considering how much they effect the cost, not to mention it limits one per console.

New Nintendo Console: Great Idea

Tablets and motion controls as the main input device: Poorly executed

When you include all games, the Wii U has 34 AA+ games, the PS4 has 29, and the Xbone has 11.

Actually nintendo ran away from there blue ocean strategy and tried to compete with the other two and they failed miserably to compete with MS and Sony.As a result they alienated the casuals who would have bought the WiiU while trying to cater to MS and sony's market to an extent. and this market did not want to buy the console They thought that some of these casuals left to mobile and other platforms which was correct, but at the same time they failed to find a way to keep the casuals that would have stayed with nintendo. Even Iwata admitted that they went way to far from their target audience.

Same thing happened with the Wii.

Wiimote(well with the motion +) had great potential but devs(and even Nintendo) barely bothered to use it fully. Same goes with the tablet. Great potential but limited use currently(lol inventory screen), but the off-screen play is nice

Wii U = Underpowered Console with a tablet attached for a controller

I fail to see the Great Idea.

The PS4's AA multis include 3 pinball games and 8 rereleases of games that were on the PS3 at least a year prior to being put on the PS4 (not counting any of the pinball games). Considering that the Wii U is backwards compatible, counting rereleases towards the PS4's total is somewhat disingenuous, but I went ahead and counted them anyway.