Why Spiderman 2 looks so much worse than Spiderman 1?

Hello,

Watching this gameplay. This looks so much worse than Spiderman 1. 2 spiderman concept is shit, and black suit symbiot spiderman donot work.

combat looks even more easy with uncharted style scripted sequence which are not much in original game.

even graphically its not impreesive.

I enjoyed the first game. beat twice. basically its Arkham game in Spiderman skin. and one of only sony game that is not movie game.

So friends, what you think? why it looks worse?

lets discuss

These Spider-Man games are highly overrated. I still can't bring myself to finish the first game, let alone start playing Miles Morales or get excited for the sequel.

And it is a PS5 exclusive.😎

It's the Playstation touch to turn games into movies.

Envy thread 🤣

It's okay graphically, gameplay doesn't quite sell me though. But given the weight of the IP, it'll probably sell phenomenally. There still seems to be some Marvel fatigue generating in the cinematic universe so curious if that will catch up in gaming. It also is a Sony exclusive so I would guess it could still sell well to those who are largely interested in those too.

I don't care that much how it looks since it is a console game at the end of the day, but I can't imagine it'll actually be worse than a ps4 game.

As for the scripted scene, what else are they going to show in a trailer? It's not like they're removing the web-slinging and side missions. Overall, Spider-Man 2 is probably just going to be more of the same experience as the first even if there are more cinematic moments. The combat itself looks the same to me too.

It was pretty boring.

Should have made MS3 the tail end game. Throw in 30-50 seconds of bla. Get the internet folk clippy-clapping.

Looks better than 90 percent of games and it's open world. Get glasses guys.

Spider-Man wasn't my favorite game, not by a longshot, but to be honest I think it was one of the best, highest-quality, and polished games I have ever played. Everything in it just worked. Controls were perfect, not clunky at all. Performance was smooth and consistent. They did an amazing job.

Ditto to the Miles Morales expansion. Which was a great, proper expansion like you'd expect back in the day, not some shitty DLC.

Of course this was on PC after they had a couple years to fix bugs, the controls are tighter, and visuals and performance better 😁😋

I fully expect Spider-Man 2 to be of the same caliber, and would be disappointed if it isn't.

I’ve never seen so many butt hurt lems before.

@daredevils2k: Um most of the poster's so far are hermits, but please tell us where the lems touched you and we'll try and get you some help :(

It looks more of the same to me and I already know it's going to be awesome. This whining about graphics literally means nothing when the game itself is still going to be great. Hell, Spiderman comes from a line of graphically inferior games. SM ps4 and Miles Morales are a million times better than the older games in every way imaginable. I don't doubt Spiderman 2 will be another hit.

yea I never finished it either. swinging around was fun for a while and the combat was fine but nothing special, not much else going for them. open world activities left much to be desired.

Obviously the Series S is holding it back.

@with_teeth26: it was a standard Ubisoft checklist game with some amazing webswinging and good combat and despite it got bit stale towards the end I throughly enjoyed it.

No idea why S2 is getting so much hate, yeah the stuff we saw was very cinematic and why wouldn’t it be? All the combat etc looked etc like the first one. And yeah expect it will still be packed with non scripted side content.

Venom suite can go either way imo, will have to see it more in action before I can judge that, that being said the idea intrigues me from a lore/story perspective atleast:)

@girlusocrazy:

The person whining about the pic on the right "looking rough" is evidence enough that people pledge more to fanboy-ism than actual reality. 😆

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@ghosts4ever: lmao 🤣 you're full of it. How the heck is spiderman not a movie game? I beat the game and it's literally a giant movie game cinematic experience. Of course I enjoyed it, because I'm not a 🤡, being in denial.

And spiderman 2 looks even better, the story sounds interesting, and the black suit is obviously corrupting spiderman. It's part of the story.

I told you to stop paying attention to this shitty franchise. Next time listen, i know what i am talking about. Beg Sony to port TLOU2, and if they do, you better upgrade your pc so it doesn't run at 8fps.

It's like they took Ass Creed but managed to make it more boring.

Meanwhile Ghost of Tsushima is an open world done right, doing everything to draw you in.

Ubi-stations spider-meh 2

@girlusocrazy: puddlegate lol i remember that causing controversy on here back in the day.

got very little interest in the series. was really disappointed with how derivative the first game was, although i got miles morales free with my ps5 and i did enjoy it a little more than the og. felt more compact and to the point without all the open world baggage being forced on you like it was in the first game

I really enjoyed the first Spiderman. Was fun all the way through. I got it for 19.99 about a year or so after launch. Will likely do the same thing here. Single player games are great!

Looks fine. I haven't played the first one yet (on the backlog) but it looks like more of the same.

Is it also getting a PS4 release though? Also when is it due? It still looks like a higher res PS4 game with just some higher quality textures in places. It's not bad looking or anything, it looks quite good in it's own right.....just as a new game on a new gen of system by a first party developer (who are having a second crack at second system AND we are 3 years into the gen), it's a bit flat.

I never liked the Batman games so obviously I didn't enjoyed Spiderman that much. But moving through the city was really great. Otherwise it was pretty boring and that kind of focus group type of writing was another layer of added boringness.

Seriously buggy game at release too, the last third of the game could get hilariously broken.

I'm REALLY surprised. I thought this was goona blow everything out of the water. Is it also coming out on the PS4? That might explain it. :-S

Edit: OH SHIT, this is PS5 exclusive?

At the beginning of the trailer, I thought, this looks pretty good, what is TC talking about, but cut to the city, it looks like a PS4 game.

Because they're shit at porting?

Oh look its the lemming white knight. Thank god this forum has you to protect all our fragile green friends’ feelings

Who is? its not like ND ported TLOU1R.

I've already said, multiple times, what it would take for me to be interested in this game. And this isn't it.

Agreed, I don't think it looks worse....just not as good as it should be, expecially running on the PS5...so yeah, i am dissapointed, wish it went to a more photorealistic graphical style, something like what the unreal engine 5 is capable of..etc.

they actually did

Wait what? ND gave them the green light, but its Iron Galaxy that's in charge of the game as far as i am aware.

That's what people initially thought, but it turned out that ND did the brunt, galaxy was there only for assistance as ND wants to do upcoming PC versions inhouse as well, so this was more of a learning experience for them, you can look it up on twitter if you want

I agree. The web-slinging is great. The npc dialogue in spots was immersive and added density. I don't recall any major bugs or glitches. And sadly, that has become a pleasant surprise these days. My problem was that a lot of the other stuff was boring.

People often compare the combat to the Arkham games, but there's something about those that just feels better to me... at least in Asylum. The Spiderman combat is obviously zoomed out to accommodate his wider range of movement and attacks, but it has the effect (at least for me) of making me feel less part of the activity. I don't know if it translates, but it's similar to how I feel about movies. It has become pretty common for modern movies to do giant wide shots, but they almost always give me the feeling of looking at something, rather than being part of something. But weirdly, I would say the opposite for God of War. With that I prefer the pulled back camera. So I dunno 😊.

The transition between stealth and combat is also a little weak. In Arkham, the stealth just feels better imo, and when you transition (or screw up) it's more of an intense struggle for survival. With Spiderman, you just go "oh yeah, Spiderman" and beat the shit out them. There's something about the UI and all the tech embellishments that I'm not overly fond of. Then most of the boss are kind of weak as well. That end fight was pretty lackluster.

Maybe most of that is personal preference, but the one thing everyone should hate are those goddamn pigeon missions. I absolutely hate the forced predetermined chase sequences. If I'm smart enough to locate and position myself for optimal bird baggin', then let me. Forcing me to go through some boring chase, despite me doing everything correctly is just ass.

Again, you're right that they made a quality product that actually functions as promised. It's just sad that we have to champion that, because it's so rare anymore.

Karen made a thread

Yeah, you said it, man.

Maybe that's why it felt so special, and in that respect, it's bittersweet praise.

Yeah I did think they did the stealth aspect in the Arkham games better. It felt almost like two separate stages, but with no abrupt transition when you broke stealth. In Spider-Man, it was still fun, but it felt more tacked on. That's a very light criticism on my part, though; it was still mostly well done.

To me, it just looks samey. Nothing particularly wrong with that, as I did enjoy the first. That being said, i'd be happy if they have held sonething back that might switch that up (apart from the seeming character flipping.)

It doesn't look worse than the first one. I dunno how much old build is, but it looks better.

@girlusocrazy: sadly not even close 😢

I liked the 1st one, haven't played miles morales.

The web slinging and combat was solid. But I do find it overated. I'd say the 1st one was a solid 8/10. Those Mary Jane segments and the puzzles in the lab were so borring and tedious.

It's like insomniac made a fun game and then Sony got involved and said

"you need more walking simulator segments and trivilous puzzle segments to break up the monogamy of fun gameplay!! We don't want too much fun guys, put some trivial talking/walking segments in here!!"

At this point, when i see someone being hyped for this, its like seeing those casuals being hyped for a new AssCreed game. Like what's wrong with you? Why do you hype such shallow titles specially crafted for people that barely touch a controller?

@randy_lahey: Most of the comments were from hermits when I posted, and they still are. So how about you stop being dumb and look at them for yourself. You cows are just obsessed with everything MS/Xbox/Lems and can't see anything else, what depressing lives you live.

lol worse faster web swining more combat moves, action looks like a step up. Will likely be the best game this year outside of zelda.

Basically better than anything we have seen on xbox in its 22 years.

@loudheadphones said:

@ghosts4ever said:

Hello,

Watching this gameplay. This looks so much worse than Spiderman 1. 2 spiderman concept is shit, and black suit symbiot spiderman donot work.

combat looks even more easy with uncharted style scripted sequence which are not much in original game.

even graphically its not impreesive.

I enjoyed the first game. beat twice. basically its Arkham game in Spiderman skin. and one of only sony game that is not movie game.

So friends, what you think? why it looks worse?

lets discuss

It doesn't look worse than the first one. I dunno how much old build is, but it looks better.

To me, it doesn't look worse and probably does look better, but not a whole generation better. Other than lighting, it doesn't look vastly better than a PS4 game.

The stealth in the Arkham games is leagues better. In Spider-Man it just feels tacked on and shallow similar to every other Third Person action adventure game from Playstation. The AI is borderline brain dead in stealth aspect. Their situational awareness is incredibly low. In the Arkham games if you pick off a couple of bad guys patrolling near each other they react by looking up and down at your vantage points instead of wandering around like idiots not noticing nearly all their teammates are gone. It really helps with the immersion of the comic book world because the criminals will react realistically to a super hero that they know takes people out one by one as a common tactic. Meanwhile in Spider-Man it seems like every thug you fight has never heard of you before despite the numerous encounters so they don't bother to look up while patrolling and when you do get caught they're locked on you even when you break their line of sight.