Why does the XBONE controller still using AA batteries?

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#1 Posted by EddyG0RD0 (2568 posts) -

feels so...outdated , old...

same goes for the power brick...so EXTRA...so outside...

the design team at M$ really sucks

#2 Posted by Netret0120 (2051 posts) -

That grammar:-\

#3 Posted by danabo (2474 posts) -

I bet you can't Xbox Live Gold required.

#4 Posted by killzowned24 (7302 posts) -

So MS can rip off fools by buying charge kits. AA batteries don't even fit snug and rattle like a snake.

#5 Posted by drekula2 (1906 posts) -

it's part of secret kinect technology

#6 Posted by EddyG0RD0 (2568 posts) -

yeah if there are grammar mistakes sorry for ma ingrish

#7 Posted by locopatho (20193 posts) -

I prefer being able to swap in a pair of charged AA batteries while the old ones recharge, rather than being tethered to the console when the pad needs to recharge.

They should include rechargeable batteries with the console though.

#8 Posted by edidili (3446 posts) -

When batteries die you can quickly change them instead of having to go wired. If you have two pairs of rechargable batteries you just switch between them over and over.

#9 Posted by sukraj (22319 posts) -

meh chana like the xbox controller

#10 Posted by razgriz_101 (16871 posts) -

@edidili said:

When batteries die you can quickly change them instead of having to go wired. If you have two pairs of rechargable batteries you just switch between them over and over.

this not to mention they are cheap as chips nowadays :P i done fine with the Wii doing this aswell and it works out cheap as hell in the long run.

#11 Posted by sts106mat (19098 posts) -

funny that when i went to store on saturday and tried to use the PS4 display, the controller's batteries were flat and needed to be charged.

simply going to my stock of AA batteries in my garage >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>having to wait to play a game because my controllers is shit.

#12 Posted by l34052 (3133 posts) -

Its because MS fans have proven they dont mind being fleeced at every opportunity for everything so MS continues robbing people blind.

They really only have themselves to blame.

#13 Edited by razgriz_101 (16871 posts) -

@l34052 said:

Its because MS fans have proven they dont mind being fleeced at every opportunity for everything so MS continues robbing people blind.

They really only have themselves to blame.

buying a cheap durable,decent set of rechargable AA batteries which come in handy for multiple things, doing it right.

buying a play and charge kit...doing it wrong.

#14 Posted by SinjinSmythe (789 posts) -

These so called "old" AA batteries last over 100 hours. Compared to bankrupt Sony who cut every corner like removal of pressure sensitive buttons and a battery that lasts 5 hours.

#15 Posted by l34052 (3133 posts) -

It amazes me how people will try and argue that having to buy a seperate rechargable battery and charge kit or seperate recharble batteries along with a charger is a better idea than having a rechargable battery built into the controller LOLOL.

Where has all the common sense gone?!?!?

#16 Posted by StormyJoe (4966 posts) -

feels so...outdated , old...

same goes for the power brick...so EXTRA...so outside...

the design team at M$ really sucks

Why does there have to be a thread about this EVERY FRICKEN WEEK? Seriously, just because the PS4 launch got owned by the Xbox One launch doesn't mean you cows can start being broken records.

#17 Posted by Snugenz (11822 posts) -

@edidili said:

When batteries die you can quickly change them instead of having to go wired. If you have two pairs of rechargable batteries you just switch between them over and over.

this not to mention they are cheap as chips nowadays :P i done fine with the Wii doing this aswell and it works out cheap as hell in the long run.

Yeah same, there's market every saturday near where i live and i can pick up a 50 pack of decent AA batteries for like 8 Euro. The only downside is disposal.

#18 Posted by lhughey (4226 posts) -

@l34052 said:

It amazes me how people will try and argue that having to buy a seperate rechargable battery and charge kit or seperate recharble batteries along with a charger is a better idea than having a rechargable battery built into the controller LOLOL.

Where has all the common sense gone?!?!?

I didn't have to buy anything. I have a few sets of chargeable AA batteries. They are Sanyo Eneloops which last AT LEAST twice as long as the DS3 controller and even longer compared to the DS4 controller. Also, batteries degrade over time. I'm happy to have replaceable ones.

Would you believe that some people just don't think the same as you? There are many people who are against non replaceable batteries. Do a search for "iphone non replaceable battery", you'll see that there are many people who don't want integrated batteries and there are some who want it. Its not a black and white issue. Stop acting like it is.

#19 Posted by Heirren (16666 posts) -

It makes sense to me. Rechargeables are very cheap, these days. When all is said and done, 360 controllers will likely outlast ps3 controllers. AA batteries will always be easy to find, whereas the specific batteries in Dualshocks/etc will require one to hunt online as that format evolves and specifics are never that popular. It seems silly, but in reality it is a very consumer friendly move.

#20 Posted by Heil68 (43624 posts) -

@danabo said:

I bet you can't Xbox Live Gold required.

I lol'd

#21 Posted by shellcase86 (1934 posts) -

I'm not sure, they definitely need to outsource to another firm if they are still in it for next-next gen. They have to do a better job of hardware design.

#22 Posted by DaBrainz (7630 posts) -

I was amazed that MS had the nerve to charge $60 for a last gen controller. Those alkaline batteries make it too heavy. Nintendo is $10 cheaper, is light as a feather and has a 80 hour rechargeable Li ion battery.

#23 Edited by Harisemo (4133 posts) -

I prefer AA batteries over built in. I have 2 pairs of Sanyo Eneloops for my Xbox 360 controller. they collectively last me about 3 weeks or maybe slightly more. I only charge them when both pairs are dead and if I need to game between that time i use my old play and charge cable. Now with Xbox One you can simply use a micro usb cable to connect your controller so that's even better. Problem with built in batteries is you can't replace them when they die or become weak but at least dualshock 3 had excellent battery life. According to PS4 owners Dualshock 4 lasts only 8-10 hours per charge which is atrocious and would require frequent plug in. DS4 really should have had AA batteries.

#24 Posted by Mr_Ditters (1906 posts) -

Im sure it has nothing to do with Microsoft selling their little plug and play charge kit and rechargeable pack. Im sure its purely a design decision for the sake of the consumer because AA batteries are better than rechargeable ones. That's Microsoft always thinking of the consumer.

#25 Posted by clr84651 (5392 posts) -

So MS can charge the same amount for the controller and make additional revenue off of people buying charge n play packs.

#26 Posted by dommeus (9243 posts) -
#27 Posted by clr84651 (5392 posts) -

@Harisemo said:

I prefer AA batteries over built in. I have 2 pairs of Sanyo Eneloops for my Xbox 360 controller. they collectively last me about 3 weeks or maybe slightly more. I only charge them when both pairs are dead and if I need to game between that time i use my old play and charge cable. Now with Xbox One you can simply use a micro usb cable to connect your controller so that's even better. Problem with built in batteries is you can't replace them when they die or become weak but at least dualshock 3 had excellent battery life. According to PS4 owners Dualshock 4 lasts only 8-10 hours per charge which is atrocious and would require frequent plug in. DS4 really should have had AA batteries.

According to this PS4 owner who is also a PS3 owner says both last plenty long enough. I also know from playing 360 that Xbox owners would like it better if MS made the controllers with built in rechargable batteries. I always see Xfans making excuses as to why somehting on an xbox is better than something on a PS although it's not. Most electronics; cell phones, chordless home phones, laptops, ipods, etc all have rechargable batteries built in, because it's better. Just because MS chooses to stay back in the 90s with their controllers power supply doesn't make it good.

#28 Edited by masiisam (5717 posts) -

I like the fact they are not part of the controller.

I went though 2 DS3's last gen cause they didn't hold a charge for more than 5 hours after a period of time..it irked me i had to buy new controllers when all i needed was a battery that could hold more than 50 cycles.

#29 Edited by MrXboxOne (742 posts) -

feels so...outdated , old...

same goes for the power brick...so EXTRA...so outside...

the design team at M$ really sucks

Reason why, when you force a battery in the controller and none removable, what happens? eventually that controller wont hold a charge and your back in the PS2 days. Xbox gives you an opportunity to buy a kit and save $60 or more each year buy a new controller so your not forced to stay plugged in.

#30 Edited by kingtito (4893 posts) -

@clr84651 said:

@Harisemo said:

I prefer AA batteries over built in. I have 2 pairs of Sanyo Eneloops for my Xbox 360 controller. they collectively last me about 3 weeks or maybe slightly more. I only charge them when both pairs are dead and if I need to game between that time i use my old play and charge cable. Now with Xbox One you can simply use a micro usb cable to connect your controller so that's even better. Problem with built in batteries is you can't replace them when they die or become weak but at least dualshock 3 had excellent battery life. According to PS4 owners Dualshock 4 lasts only 8-10 hours per charge which is atrocious and would require frequent plug in. DS4 really should have had AA batteries.

According to this PS4 owner who is also a PS3 owner says both last plenty long enough. I also know from playing 360 that Xbox owners would like it better if MS made the controllers with built in rechargable batteries. I always see Xfans making excuses as to why somehting on an xbox is better than something on a PS although it's not. Most electronics; cell phones, chordless home phones, laptops, ipods, etc all have rechargable batteries built in, because it's better. Just because MS chooses to stay back in the 90s with their controllers power supply doesn't make it good.

You can't speak for every Xbox fan so don't even try. Not everyone likes built in batteries and not every Xbox fan wants them. I like the choice of either using rechargeable or using regular. Xbox fans have that choice while PS fans don't. What I don't understand is why choice is a bad thing around here. Cows didn't seem to like choice when the 360 launched and it seems they don't like choice now.

Sorry dude but saying rechargeable is better is just your opinion. Choice is better and always will be.

#31 Posted by delta3074 (17927 posts) -

So MS can rip off fools by buying charge kits. AA batteries don't even fit snug and rattle like a snake.

BS, i have been using AA batteries in my 360 for years, NO rattle and at under a quid for 12 batteries it's not expensive and AA batteries have several advantages

1,The controller is lighter than with a charge pack or internal L-ion battery.

2. you don't have to open up your controller when the battery eventually loses charge.

3. you don't have to wait for your controller to charge before using the controller.

And before anyone jumps in with the BS , ALL rechargeable batteries lose there charge over time, even if you completely drain them and completely recharge them every time.

At the end of the day it's down to personal preference but one is just as good as the other in my opinion.

#32 Edited by magicalclick (22510 posts) -

Because no more stupid dead battery controller and I don't need to charge it when I need it the most.

#33 Posted by Jamex1987 (2186 posts) -

because replaceable is better than non replaceable.

#34 Posted by iwasgood2u (739 posts) -

Its the same as swapping disc 2 while gaming. Something lemmings enjoyed doing. They make good pets.

#35 Posted by BeardMaster (1580 posts) -

So MS can rip off fools by buying charge kits. AA batteries don't even fit snug and rattle like a snake.

Probably because high capacity LSD rechargeable batteries tend to be slightly bigger than standard AAs. So people like me that dont like to settle for garbage li-ion batteries or disposables have a much better solution.

#36 Edited by KHAndAnime (13518 posts) -

We already had a thread on this. Just like lemmings aren't smart enough to spend their money on the technologically superior console, they also aren't smart enough to remember to charge their controllers, so they have to further waste their money on batteries. They said it in the last thread and they said it here too. At least they have endless money to piss away on the MS empire - MS will be around forever.

#37 Edited by BeardMaster (1580 posts) -

@killzowned24 said:

So MS can rip off fools by buying charge kits. AA batteries don't even fit snug and rattle like a snake.

BS, i have been using AA batteries in my 360 for years, NO rattle and at under a quid for 12 batteries it's not expensive and AA batteries have several advantages

1,The controller is lighter than with a charge pack or internal L-ion battery.

2. you don't have to open up your controller when the battery eventually loses charge.

3. you don't have to wait for your controller to charge before using the controller.

And before anyone jumps in with the BS , ALL rechargeable batteries lose there charge over time, even if you completely drain them and completely recharge them every time.

At the end of the day it's down to personal preference but one is just as good as the other in my opinion.

All batteries do, but eneloops are rated for 1000 charges and have a capacity of 2000mAh.

By comparison the PS4 controller is rated for 300-500 charges and has a capacity of 1000MAh.

So the PS4 controller will need to be charged twice as often, and can only be recharged half as many times. Meaning eneloops will provide a better experience and last over 4x as long before needing to be replaced.

I would highly recommend getting a 4 pack of eneloops and a cheap smart charger vs disposables, will save you money in the long run and you never have to worry about running out of batteries. Plus if you are rotating batteries as they die thats 2000 charges between the two sets. If you are charging them once a week, you can take those batteries to the grave.

#38 Edited by delta3074 (17927 posts) -

@delta3074 said:

@killzowned24 said:

So MS can rip off fools by buying charge kits. AA batteries don't even fit snug and rattle like a snake.

BS, i have been using AA batteries in my 360 for years, NO rattle and at under a quid for 12 batteries it's not expensive and AA batteries have several advantages

1,The controller is lighter than with a charge pack or internal L-ion battery.

2. you don't have to open up your controller when the battery eventually loses charge.

3. you don't have to wait for your controller to charge before using the controller.

And before anyone jumps in with the BS , ALL rechargeable batteries lose there charge over time, even if you completely drain them and completely recharge them every time.

At the end of the day it's down to personal preference but one is just as good as the other in my opinion.

All batteries do, but eneloops are rated for 1000 charges and have a capacity of 2000mAh.

By comparison the PS4 controller is rated for 300-500 charges and has a capacity of 1000MAh.

So the PS4 controller will need to be charged twice as often, and can only be recharged half as many times. Meaning eneloops will provide a better experience and last over 4x as long before needing to be replaced.

I would highly recommend getting a 4 pack of eneloops and a cheap smart charger vs disposables, will save you money in the long run and you never have to worry about running out of batteries. Plus if you are rotating batteries as they die thats 2000 charges between the two sets. If you are charging them once a week, you can take those batteries to the grave.

cheers man, gonna look into getting some of those batteries, it will save me some money thats for sure, again, cheers for the info:)

#39 Edited by clr84651 (5392 posts) -

@kingtito said:

@clr84651 said:

@Harisemo said:

I prefer AA batteries over built in. I have 2 pairs of Sanyo Eneloops for my Xbox 360 controller. they collectively last me about 3 weeks or maybe slightly more. I only charge them when both pairs are dead and if I need to game between that time i use my old play and charge cable. Now with Xbox One you can simply use a micro usb cable to connect your controller so that's even better. Problem with built in batteries is you can't replace them when they die or become weak but at least dualshock 3 had excellent battery life. According to PS4 owners Dualshock 4 lasts only 8-10 hours per charge which is atrocious and would require frequent plug in. DS4 really should have had AA batteries.

According to this PS4 owner who is also a PS3 owner says both last plenty long enough. I also know from playing 360 that Xbox owners would like it better if MS made the controllers with built in rechargable batteries. I always see Xfans making excuses as to why somehting on an xbox is better than something on a PS although it's not. Most electronics; cell phones, chordless home phones, laptops, ipods, etc all have rechargable batteries built in, because it's better. Just because MS chooses to stay back in the 90s with their controllers power supply doesn't make it good.

You can't speak for every Xbox fan so don't even try. Not everyone likes built in batteries and not every Xbox fan wants them. I like the choice of either using rechargeable or using regular. Xbox fans have that choice while PS fans don't. What I don't understand is why choice is a bad thing around here. Cows didn't seem to like choice when the 360 launched and it seems they don't like choice now.

Sorry dude but saying rechargeable is better is just your opinion. Choice is better and always will be.

Sorry, but I believe since electronic devices are going the built in rechargable route, that it is infact better. Bluray is better and MS adopted it. MS needs to go rechargable controllers as well. MS came out component with the 360 and then added HDMI in as it is better. You would like rechargable better believe me & stop being dumb about it just because MS hasn't done it.

#40 Posted by darkangel115 (1525 posts) -

feels so...outdated , old...

same goes for the power brick...so EXTRA...so outside...

the design team at M$ really sucks

Because choices > no choices.

I've been using the same set of rechargeable eneloop batteries for 5 days and still haven't need to recharge them. and i have a fresh pair waiting. never having to plug in my controller is a feature that is priceless

#41 Posted by Riverwolf007 (23586 posts) -

it's a conspiracy between ms, the nsa, and big battery.

infowars.com did a peice on it right after they outed kinect donggate.

#42 Posted by cheesie253 (840 posts) -

@edidili:

This. I prefer being able to change out batts on the fly and never have to plug my controller in. My system is not close enough for me to charge while playing.

I do think however they should be including two sets of rechargeable batteries and a wall charger. I paid like $20 for a charger and 4aa batteries. They should just skip the play and charge all together and partner with energizer and do a batt charger pack.

I'm my opinion replaceable batteries are better but they should be included in the cost of the controller for the One. Not sold as an extra.

#43 Posted by delta3074 (17927 posts) -

@clr84651 said:

@Harisemo said:

I prefer AA batteries over built in. I have 2 pairs of Sanyo Eneloops for my Xbox 360 controller. they collectively last me about 3 weeks or maybe slightly more. I only charge them when both pairs are dead and if I need to game between that time i use my old play and charge cable. Now with Xbox One you can simply use a micro usb cable to connect your controller so that's even better. Problem with built in batteries is you can't replace them when they die or become weak but at least dualshock 3 had excellent battery life. According to PS4 owners Dualshock 4 lasts only 8-10 hours per charge which is atrocious and would require frequent plug in. DS4 really should have had AA batteries.

According to this PS4 owner who is also a PS3 owner says both last plenty long enough. I also know from playing 360 that Xbox owners would like it better if MS made the controllers with built in rechargable batteries. I always see Xfans making excuses as to why somehting on an xbox is better than something on a PS although it's not. Most electronics; cell phones, chordless home phones, laptops, ipods, etc all have rechargable batteries built in, because it's better. Just because MS chooses to stay back in the 90s with their controllers power supply doesn't make it good.

Load of rubbish, i would much rather have the choice, i know from experience that ALL batteries lose there charge so with the DS4 you will eventually have to buy a new battery and install it and as somebody pointed, there are rechargeable batterys that last twice as long Before needing to be charged and last twice as many recharges before they lose charge.

Both have advantages and disadvantages, to discard one as 'rubbish' just because you consider it an 'old' method is completely stupid really..

Using mobile phones is a bad example as well, the batteries in those lose there charge really quickly.

The 'everyone else does it so it must be the best' argument is lame as hell man.

#44 Posted by clone01 (24574 posts) -

Okay.

#45 Edited by HavocV3 (7934 posts) -

@l34052 said:

It amazes me how people will try and argue that having to buy a seperate rechargable battery and charge kit or seperate recharble batteries along with a charger is a better idea than having a rechargable battery built into the controller LOLOL.

Where has all the common sense gone?!?!?

Those rechargeable AA work in other household appliances. So I'd need them either way.

The common sense is all there, bruv. But you have fun turning your wireless controller into a wired one.

#46 Posted by stereointegrity (10702 posts) -

its innovative and has a much better balance

#47 Posted by BeardMaster (1580 posts) -

@clr84651 said:

@kingtito said:

@clr84651 said:

@Harisemo said:

I prefer AA batteries over built in. I have 2 pairs of Sanyo Eneloops for my Xbox 360 controller. they collectively last me about 3 weeks or maybe slightly more. I only charge them when both pairs are dead and if I need to game between that time i use my old play and charge cable. Now with Xbox One you can simply use a micro usb cable to connect your controller so that's even better. Problem with built in batteries is you can't replace them when they die or become weak but at least dualshock 3 had excellent battery life. According to PS4 owners Dualshock 4 lasts only 8-10 hours per charge which is atrocious and would require frequent plug in. DS4 really should have had AA batteries.

According to this PS4 owner who is also a PS3 owner says both last plenty long enough. I also know from playing 360 that Xbox owners would like it better if MS made the controllers with built in rechargable batteries. I always see Xfans making excuses as to why somehting on an xbox is better than something on a PS although it's not. Most electronics; cell phones, chordless home phones, laptops, ipods, etc all have rechargable batteries built in, because it's better. Just because MS chooses to stay back in the 90s with their controllers power supply doesn't make it good.

You can't speak for every Xbox fan so don't even try. Not everyone likes built in batteries and not every Xbox fan wants them. I like the choice of either using rechargeable or using regular. Xbox fans have that choice while PS fans don't. What I don't understand is why choice is a bad thing around here. Cows didn't seem to like choice when the 360 launched and it seems they don't like choice now.

Sorry dude but saying rechargeable is better is just your opinion. Choice is better and always will be.

Sorry, but I believe since electronic devices are going the built in rechargable route, that it is infact better. Bluray is better and MS adopted it. MS needs to go rechargable controllers as well. MS came out component with the 360 and then added HDMI in as it is better. You would like rechargable better believe me & stop being dumb about it just because MS hasn't done it.

Rechargeable AAs as an option is always superior. Built in Li-ion batteries are only better if it is necessary to fit in a condensed form factor, such as with cell phones.

But since controllers dont need to fit in my pocket, being able to use rechargeable AAs is a much better option for me and anyone that knows the value of LSD batteries.

#48 Posted by kingtito (4893 posts) -

@clr84651 said:

@kingtito said:

@clr84651 said:

@Harisemo said:

I prefer AA batteries over built in. I have 2 pairs of Sanyo Eneloops for my Xbox 360 controller. they collectively last me about 3 weeks or maybe slightly more. I only charge them when both pairs are dead and if I need to game between that time i use my old play and charge cable. Now with Xbox One you can simply use a micro usb cable to connect your controller so that's even better. Problem with built in batteries is you can't replace them when they die or become weak but at least dualshock 3 had excellent battery life. According to PS4 owners Dualshock 4 lasts only 8-10 hours per charge which is atrocious and would require frequent plug in. DS4 really should have had AA batteries.

According to this PS4 owner who is also a PS3 owner says both last plenty long enough. I also know from playing 360 that Xbox owners would like it better if MS made the controllers with built in rechargable batteries. I always see Xfans making excuses as to why somehting on an xbox is better than something on a PS although it's not. Most electronics; cell phones, chordless home phones, laptops, ipods, etc all have rechargable batteries built in, because it's better. Just because MS chooses to stay back in the 90s with their controllers power supply doesn't make it good.

You can't speak for every Xbox fan so don't even try. Not everyone likes built in batteries and not every Xbox fan wants them. I like the choice of either using rechargeable or using regular. Xbox fans have that choice while PS fans don't. What I don't understand is why choice is a bad thing around here. Cows didn't seem to like choice when the 360 launched and it seems they don't like choice now.

Sorry dude but saying rechargeable is better is just your opinion. Choice is better and always will be.

Sorry, but I believe since electronic devices are going the built in rechargable route, that it is infact better. Bluray is better and MS adopted it. MS needs to go rechargable controllers as well. MS came out component with the 360 and then added HDMI in as it is better. You would like rechargable better believe me & stop being dumb about it just because MS hasn't done it.

Those devices you mentioned with rechargeable batteries wouldn't really work with regular so that point is pretty much moot. Controllers don't need rechargeable batteries as batteries sometimes fail and degrade over time. Just because certain products use rechargeable batteries doesn't mean it's the best option for every electronic device.

BR has more space and THAT is needed for physical media these days but digital distribution is better however. MS doesn't need to go to the rechargeable route, choice>>>>>>>>no choice

Xbox controllers give you that choice, PS ones don't.

MS launched the 360 before HDMI finalized it's standard and before it became the standard.

I'm being dumb because I like choice? News flash kid....I've owned every PS to date and I plan on getting the PS4 later. Don't tell me what I'd like or don't like. Many times I've had to sit and wait to play my PS games because my controller was dead. I never had that problem with my 360 controller.

Maybe you should grow up before you start telling people that they do or don't like. Until then choice>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>no choices

#49 Edited by BeardMaster (1580 posts) -

@delta3074 said:

@BeardMaster said:

@delta3074 said:

@killzowned24 said:

So MS can rip off fools by buying charge kits. AA batteries don't even fit snug and rattle like a snake.

BS, i have been using AA batteries in my 360 for years, NO rattle and at under a quid for 12 batteries it's not expensive and AA batteries have several advantages

1,The controller is lighter than with a charge pack or internal L-ion battery.

2. you don't have to open up your controller when the battery eventually loses charge.

3. you don't have to wait for your controller to charge before using the controller.

And before anyone jumps in with the BS , ALL rechargeable batteries lose there charge over time, even if you completely drain them and completely recharge them every time.

At the end of the day it's down to personal preference but one is just as good as the other in my opinion.

All batteries do, but eneloops are rated for 1000 charges and have a capacity of 2000mAh.

By comparison the PS4 controller is rated for 300-500 charges and has a capacity of 1000MAh.

So the PS4 controller will need to be charged twice as often, and can only be recharged half as many times. Meaning eneloops will provide a better experience and last over 4x as long before needing to be replaced.

I would highly recommend getting a 4 pack of eneloops and a cheap smart charger vs disposables, will save you money in the long run and you never have to worry about running out of batteries. Plus if you are rotating batteries as they die thats 2000 charges between the two sets. If you are charging them once a week, you can take those batteries to the grave.

cheers man, gonna look into getting some of those batteries, it will save me some money thats for sure, again, cheers for the info:)

No problem, glad to turn others onto the wonderful world of eneloops. Most people dont realize how much better a good set of rechargeables are vs the crappy ones most people pickup on the cheap. Just make sure to get a smart charger, a dumb charger can severely degrade your batteries.

EDIT: also i bungled the numbers i forgot eneloops are now rated for 1500 charges, not 1000... so yea, even better.

#50 Posted by donalbane (16215 posts) -

You can replace them... and everyone should get the play and charge kit. Replaceable batteries are a terrific design choice.