Why Aren't We Talking About 900p/Sub 30fps Dark Souls III On XBONE?

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#1  Edited By deactivated-583e460ca986b
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Wake up guys! There is resolution and framerate news to talk about!!!!

"While Bloodborne and Dark Souls 3 run at a full 1080p on PS4, there were no certainties of the resolution setup on other formats. On a close pixel count, it turns out Xbox One dials its native resolution back to a straight 1600x900 in this case. Essentially, this puts us at 70 per cent of the PS4's overall pixel output. As a result there's an increase in flickering across foliage across Dark Souls 3's opening mountainous area, and more pixel crawl overall on weaponry. "

"At our very first step, we get a continuous stretch of play at 25fps in the opening section - a drop incurred by the heavy volumetric fog effects around this area's frosty high-rises. Boss battles produce similar issues on Xbox One, and we even reach frame-rates at near 20fps for larger-scale encounters on the High Wall of Lothric."

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#2  Edited By Heil68
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Well its obviously not on par with PS4, the console leader for multi plats this gen.

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#3 dynamitecop
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That's pretty bad, they really should put the PS4 and Xbox One measurements up together for context. Honestly though, From Software's games in general seem to run like complete dick, duplicate frames and have some serious frame time issues.

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Well that's shit

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#5 PSP107
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@GoldenElementXL:

Whats the difference between this and Bloodbourne?

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#6 NotAFanboy
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Amazing! Incredible!

SONY has designed an incredibly fast, strong and balanced SoC that's unrivaled by any high-end gaming PC gear. I am amazed daily by how SONY pulled it off. It's unbelievable! Genius, I say!

The PS4 SoC is worth hundreds of billions of dollars in R&D and I have no doubt that it will be shown in a history museum centuries from now depicting the start of a computing revolution.

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Amazing! Incredible!

SONY has designed an incredibly fast, strong and balanced SoC that's unrivaled by any high-end gaming PC gear. I am amazed daily by how SONY pulled it off. It's unbelievable! Genius, I say!

The PS4 SoC is worth hundreds of billions of dollars in R&D and I have no doubt that it will be shown in a history museum centuries from now depicting the start of a computing revolution.

lol a 400$ PC will get the same performance or better on multiplats

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#8  Edited By mjorh
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Damn ! that's unplayable.

PS4 version ain't gonna be that much different tho.

On the other hand , on PC :

I'm playing Dark Souls 3 on a GTX 960 system and a GTX 980 Ti system, and it runs pretty well on both. The 960 hangs out between 30 and 60 frames per second with maxed settings at 1920x1080, while the 980 Ti maintains 60 without issue at 2560x1440. Options are fairly limited (see them here), and the frames per second are capped at 60, but otherwise it’s a functional port. Not a PC player’s dream, by any means, but Dark Souls 3 runs and looks better than any other in the series at release.

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#9 deactivated-583e460ca986b
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@PSP107: DS3 is running on the Bloodborne engine so this is how Bloodborne may have run on the Xbox One. The PS4 ran the engine at 1080p and shitty frame rates while the Xbox One is a little shittier and 900p. Pretty much what we see with 95% of multiplats this gen.

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@MonsieurX said:

lol a 400$ PC will get the same performance or better on multiplats

Don't try to reason with stupidity.

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Yeah Bloodborne didn't have any frame-rate problems at launch. :|

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By this point aren't we beating a dead horse? Yes, the XONE isn't as powerful, can we move on now?

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#13  Edited By NotAFanboy
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@MonsieurX said:
@notafanboy said:

Amazing! Incredible!

SONY has designed an incredibly fast, strong and balanced SoC that's unrivaled by any high-end gaming PC gear. I am amazed daily by how SONY pulled it off. It's unbelievable! Genius, I say!

The PS4 SoC is worth hundreds of billions of dollars in R&D and I have no doubt that it will be shown in a history museum centuries from now depicting the start of a computing revolution.

lol a 400$ PC will get the same performance or better on multiplats

lol another butthurt hermit who spent thousands of dollars finetuning his PC and is in denial after seeing the PS4's power. Uncharted 4 probably had you shitting bricks.

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@MonsieurX said:

lol a 400$ PC will get the same performance or better on multiplats

You should have been tipped off when he said the R&D for the chip costed hundreds of billions of dollars. Sony never had that much money in its entire history.

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@xdude85 said:

By this point aren't we beating a dead horse? Yes, the XONE isn't as powerful, can we move on now?

there's two 10+ page threads on the frontpage about the resolution of QB...so i'm going to go with no

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Because we all know X1 is a weak piece of shit. There is no reason to talk about it anymore.

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Because we all know X1 is a weak piece of shit. There is no reason to talk about it anymore.

Then stop.

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#18 lostrib
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Because we all know X1 is a weak piece of shit. There is no reason to talk about it anymore.

Aren't you one of the people that talks about it all the time?

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#19  Edited By NotAFanboy
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@Juub1990 said:
@MonsieurX said:

lol a 400$ PC will get the same performance or better on multiplats

You should have been tipped off when he said the R&D for the chip costed hundreds of billions of dollars. Sony never had that much money in its entire history.

If it were any other company, the R&D would have exceeded $100 billion. Microsoft had to spend $10-15 billion on the Xbone R&D and it's far weaker than the PS4 while being far more expensive.

The PS4 SoC is a lot cheaper to manufacture than the Xbone SoC, it has no major bottlenecks, and it is much stronger. It would cost about $350 billion in R&D if any other company designed it. The PS4 SoC is perfection. Hundreds of years from now, the PS4 SoC will be shown in tech museums around the world. It will be taught as the chip that revolutionized computing.

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#20 deactivated-58bd60b980002
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@xhawk27: well some part of bloodborne do have frame rate drop

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#21 dynamitecop
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@lostrib said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Because we all know X1 is a weak piece of shit. There is no reason to talk about it anymore.

Aren't you one of the people that talks about it all the time?

He talks about it more than people who own it or the PS4 which he actually owns.

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Because its a dead horse. It is not as strong as the PS4. That's known. The PS4 is not a monstrous beast of power in its own right, its just the strongest 8 year old on the block. Big fucking deal. I play games

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#23 dynamitecop
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@notafanboy said:
@Juub1990 said:
@MonsieurX said:

lol a 400$ PC will get the same performance or better on multiplats

You should have been tipped off when he said the R&D for the chip costed hundreds of billions of dollars. Sony never had that much money in its entire history.

If it were any other company, the R&D would have exceeded $100 billion. Microsoft had to spend $10-15 billion on the Xbone R&D and it's far weaker than the PS4 while being far more expensive.

The PS4 SoC is a lot cheaper to manufacture than the Xbone SoC, it has no major bottlenecks, and it is much stronger. It would cost about $350 billion in R&D if any other company designed it. The PS4 SoC is perfection.

LOL this guy...

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@dynamitecop said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Because we all know X1 is a weak piece of shit. There is no reason to talk about it anymore.

Then stop.

Sure thing nyadc. I will stop acknowledging its existence much like the rest of the world has.

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#25 dynamitecop
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@dynamitecop said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Because we all know X1 is a weak piece of shit. There is no reason to talk about it anymore.

Then stop.

Sure thing nyadc. I will stop acknowledging its existence much like the rest of the world has.

You're still talking about it.

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#26 NathanDrakeSwag
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@dynamitecop said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@dynamitecop said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Because we all know X1 is a weak piece of shit. There is no reason to talk about it anymore.

Then stop.

Sure thing nyadc. I will stop acknowledging its existence much like the rest of the world has.

You're still talking about it.

Talking about what?

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#27  Edited By dynamitecop
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@dynamitecop said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@dynamitecop said:

Then stop.

Sure thing nyadc. I will stop acknowledging its existence much like the rest of the world has.

You're still talking about it.

Talking about what?

Exactly, good boy.

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Cause there is nothing new to say.

It's 3rd party, so 900p or gtfo Bone.

But it is funny that FROM can make it 900p, while Remedy can't.

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#29 MonsieurX
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@notafanboy said:
@Juub1990 said:
@MonsieurX said:

lol a 400$ PC will get the same performance or better on multiplats

You should have been tipped off when he said the R&D for the chip costed hundreds of billions of dollars. Sony never had that much money in its entire history.

If it were any other company, the R&D would have exceeded $100 billion. Microsoft had to spend $10-15 billion on the Xbone R&D and it's far weaker than the PS4 while being far more expensive.

The PS4 SoC is a lot cheaper to manufacture than the Xbone SoC, it has no major bottlenecks, and it is much stronger. It would cost about $350 billion in R&D if any other company designed it. The PS4 SoC is perfection. Hundreds of years from now, the PS4 SoC will be shown in tech museums around the world. It will be taught as the chip that revolutionized computing.

Cool sources

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because nobody f*cking plays there genius

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#31 Desmonic  Moderator
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In between NX leaks and the Souls series always having some odd performance issues (on consoles at least) I don't think people noticed to be honest :P

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#32 mjorh
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@Ant_17 said:

Cause there is nothing new to say.

It's 3rd party, so 900p or gtfo Bone.

But it is funny that FROM can make it 900p, while Remedy can't.

QB is better in terms of graphics, that's why.

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#33  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator  Online
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It's simple, I have zero interest in Dark Soul 3. That's why I'm NOT talking about it or it's resolution.

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#34 Ant_17
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@mjorh said:
@Ant_17 said:

Cause there is nothing new to say.

It's 3rd party, so 900p or gtfo Bone.

But it is funny that FROM can make it 900p, while Remedy can't.

QB is better in terms of graphics, that's why.

Graphics, huh?

Well, let's hope atleast to have gameplay and story as well.

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Give the developers credit. 900p is just fine. Remedy was only able to get 720p out of their sub-30 fps action game, and they're supposed to be great.

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#36  Edited By mjorh
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@Ant_17 said:
@mjorh said:
@Ant_17 said:

Cause there is nothing new to say.

It's 3rd party, so 900p or gtfo Bone.

But it is funny that FROM can make it 900p, while Remedy can't.

QB is better in terms of graphics, that's why.

Graphics, huh?

Well, let's hope atleast to have gameplay and story as well.

I'm sold on DS3, don't get me wrong. Obviously in terms of graphics fidelity, QB is better . Let's hope QB delivers on gameplay department as well, kinda sure about Story since it's Remedy.

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#37 silversix_
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lmao the Bone can't even handle their potato engine? Disgusting console.

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#38 Ant_17
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@mjorh:Funny enough, i'm not sold on either for now.

I'm tired of Souls game now and i don't think my laptop will play QB verry well.

But i know i'll play both sometime in the future.

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#39 svaubel
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System Wars is so dull these days.

Nothing but reposts of what GS reports and going "Hey look another game that runs better on PS4 over Xbox". We know. We get it. We've known since launch the PS4 is better hardware.

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@silversix_ said:

lmao the Bone can't even handle their potato engine? Disgusting console.

This explains why http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2013/05/21/microsofts-engineers-on-xbox-one-we-purposefully-did-not-target-the-highest-end-graphics/

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#41 2mrw
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The game looks like shit anyway.

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#42  Edited By deactivated-583e460ca986b
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@svaubel said:

System Wars is so dull these days.

Nothing but reposts of what GS reports and going "Hey look another game that runs better on PS4 over Xbox". We know. We get it. We've known since launch the PS4 is better hardware.

Yes, System Wars is very dull. Unfortunately threads other than this type don't get any attention here. People say it's beating a dead horse but thread after thread about Xbox One vs PS4 get all the attention while other quality threads fall off the front page. I'm just giving the people what they want here. I personally don't care. I have QB preordered on Xbox One.

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That's pathetic.

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@getyeryayasout said:

@GoldenElementXL: lmao

I know right. This info was posted on NeoGaf like 5 hours ago and I was shocked that this thread wasn't made here yet. Usually System Wars is only on a 2-3 hour delay from NeoGaf. I had to do it......

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#46  Edited By lamprey263
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Still looks pretty good overall on Xbox One, I'll be getting it on that. Fingers crossed there's not another Blighttown kind of bad area in the game that causes horrible performance.

Even in the area the framerate was shown to be lowest I really didn't notice anything too bad with the naked eye.

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@GoldenElementXL: I remember last gen was just the same. For example Bayonetta being crap on ps3 and scoring lower or RDR and basically every other multiplat because coding for ps3 was hard cux of teh cell.

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#48 silversix_
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back in 2013: "every Xbox One game will be running in 1080p couple of years from now". In 2016 the console has trouble with a Souls game, a series known to look very outdated.

You thought it was possible to optimize a potato which was mainly created to stream movies and play your yearly Call of Dooty?

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#49 EvanTheGamer
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Because all respectable gamers are getting it on PS4.

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#50 deactivated-57d8401f17c55
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900p is infinitely better than the shitastic chromatic aberration in bloodborne.

Hopefully this means a very solid 30 fps on Ps4, though these games have no excuse not to run at 60faps tbh