Who else thinks BioShock 2 will be a huge flop? I know I do.

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#1 BioShockOwnz
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I just watched the first 5 minutes...

http://www.gametrailers.com/user-movie/bioshock-2-first-5-minutes/336808?playlist=featured

I don't like to watch the beginning of games, especially after how awesome the first was, but I seriously needed some convincing with this one. I heard it's not quite on par with the opening of the original, so I didn't feel too dirty. And boy, they were right.

You're not missing much if you don't watch it. A crappy beginning and a game that feels like a bad version of the prior game. It just seems so... meh.

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#2 67gt500
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You seemed stoked for Damnation, but not for this?
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#3 AAllxxjjnn
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Yeh, just saw that. It was lame as hell. The first Bioshock's opening was the reason i bought the game.
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#4 BioShockOwnz
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You seemed stoked for Damnation, but not for this?67gt500

Harharhar, you're a funny man!

:P

Seriously, though, nah, this looks like a poor clone of the original with a Big Daddy mod.

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#5 aaronmullan
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Meh. I didn't like the first and this looks far worse.
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#6 Dead-Memories
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That just looks like a tension builder tbh. It cannot in anyway define if it will be a flop or not. It might not lack the "wow" factor that the first one had in terms of beginning.

That was the selling point of Bioshock 1, the incredible feel for Rapture, Bioshock 2 lacks that fresh feeling, but it can definitely deliver if they put in a good plot.

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#7 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="67gt500"]You seemed stoked for Damnation, but not for this?BioShockOwnz

Harharhar, you're a funny man!

:P

Seriously, though, nah, this looks like a poor clone of the original with a Big Daddy mod.

Hey man can't judge till you go through it. But with critically acclaimed games. You really think this will flop?
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#8 67gt500
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[QUOTE="67gt500"]You seemed stoked for Damnation, but not for this?BioShockOwnz

Harharhar, you're a funny man!

:P

Seriously, though, nah, this looks like a poor clone of the original with a Big Daddy mod.

lol - I thought that might elicit a reaction from you...
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#9 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="67gt500"]You seemed stoked for Damnation, but not for this?67gt500

Harharhar, you're a funny man!

:P

Seriously, though, nah, this looks like a poor clone of the original with a Big Daddy mod.

lol - I thought that might elicit a reaction from you...

We all do things we regret, I can't take back the past, though. :cry:

But this game, oh, I fear for it. :(

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#10 Innocentguy757
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I agree. I've been watching trailers and stuff and they look like theyre trying to make it far too actiony (though thats not a word, I think you guys know what I'm saying).
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#11 3sFan
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[QUOTE="67gt500"]You seemed stoked for Damnation, but not for this?BioShockOwnz

Harharhar, you're a funny man!

:P

Seriously, though, nah, this looks like a poor clone of the original with a Big Daddy mod.

You also liked Silent Hill Homecoming but not this ... weird.

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#12 aaronmullan
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="67gt500"]You seemed stoked for Damnation, but not for this?Animal-Mother

Harharhar, you're a funny man!

:P

Seriously, though, nah, this looks like a poor clone of the original with a Big Daddy mod.

Hey man can't judge till you go through it. But with critically acclaimed games. You really think this will flop?

Since when were you unbanned? D:
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#13 NAPK1NS
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I just saw five minutes of what could be a 15+ hour game. What kind of conclusions am I supposed to draw from that? All I can say is that BioShock started with a much more profound bang than this one did, that's for sure.
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#14 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="67gt500"]You seemed stoked for Damnation, but not for this?3sFan

Harharhar, you're a funny man!

:P

Seriously, though, nah, this looks like a poor clone of the original with a Big Daddy mod.

You also liked Silent Hill Homecoming but not this ... weird.

Oh yeah, Homecoming was a very solid game and I still stand by that 100%. Tru dat, brotha.

And yes, this won't be AAA, thus it's a flop.

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#15 67gt500
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OK, I'll make you a deal... if Bioshock 2 flops, as you have predicted, you must start (and subsequently exclusively use) a new account under the user name Bioshockflop'd...
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#16 chathuranga
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It seems like they put a lot of emphasis on online play (judging by the trophies allocated to online play) and this worries me. I don't want really want the devs taking time to work on online multiplayer when they could be using the time to make an amazing single player game. I just don't think BioShock 2 will be on par with the first one. Same thing happened with Uncharted 2, in my opinion. I had high hopes for Uncharted 2 but it just didn't give me the enjoyment that the first Uncharted did.
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#17 DaViD_99
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What that is such a crappy opening. And it doesn't really look like they fixed the gunplay in this one. Not liking the looks of this title...
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OK, I'll make you a deal... if Bioshock 2 flops, as you have predicted, you must start (and subsequently exclusively use) a new account under the user name Bioshockflop'd... 67gt500

That would be factually incorrect. It'd be BioShock2Flop'd.

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#19 67gt500
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It seems like they put a lot of emphasis on online play (judging by the trophies allocated to online play) and this worries me. I don't want really want the devs taking time to work on online multiplayer when they could be using the time to make an amazing single player game. I just don't think BioShock 2 will be on par with the first one. Same thing happened with Uncharted 2, in my opinion. I had high hopes for Uncharted 2 but it just didn't give me the enjoyment that the first Uncharted did. chathuranga
I could be mistaken, but I think that 2K Marin subbed the multiplayer out to some other developer, so they could devote all their resources to the SP...
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#20 NAPK1NS
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[QUOTE="3sFan"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Harharhar, you're a funny man!

:P

Seriously, though, nah, this looks like a poor clone of the original with a Big Daddy mod.

BioShockOwnz

You also liked Silent Hill Homecoming but not this ... weird.

Oh yeah, Homecoming was a very solid game and I still stand by that 100%. Tru dat, brotha.

And yes, this won't be AAA, thus it's a flop.

Please stop talking like that. :?
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Harharhar, you're a funny man!

:P

Seriously, though, nah, this looks like a poor clone of the original with a Big Daddy mod.

aaronmullan

Hey man can't judge till you go through it. But with critically acclaimed games. You really think this will flop?

Since when were you unbanned? D:

Didn't you hear? He was summoned by Zeus, and all he had to say is "RISE FROM YOUR GRAVE!" ;)

On-topic, Not really a fan of Bioshock. It was good, but I'm not totally hyped for the sequel.

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#22 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="chathuranga"]It seems like they put a lot of emphasis on online play (judging by the trophies allocated to online play) and this worries me. I don't want really want the devs taking time to work on online multiplayer when they could be using the time to make an amazing single player game. I just don't think BioShock 2 will be on par with the first one. Same thing happened with Uncharted 2, in my opinion. I had high hopes for Uncharted 2 but it just didn't give me the enjoyment that the first Uncharted did. 67gt500
I could be mistaken, but I think that 2K Marin subbed the multiplayer out to some other developer, so they could devote all their resources to the SP...

Yup, Digital Extremes is responsible for the multiplayer.

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#23 67gt500
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[QUOTE="67gt500"]OK, I'll make you a deal... if Bioshock 2 flops, as you have predicted, you must start (and subsequently exclusively use) a new account under the user name Bioshockflop'd... BioShockOwnz

That would be factually incorrect. It'd be BioShock2Flop'd.

lol - I stand corrected! It has a nice ring to it, no?
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#24 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="3sFan"]

You also liked Silent Hill Homecoming but not this ... weird.

NAPK1NS

Oh yeah, Homecoming was a very solid game and I still stand by that 100%. Tru dat, brotha.

And yes, this won't be AAA, thus it's a flop.

Please stop talking like that. :?

Don't hate, appreciate, bro. I feel BioShock 2 will disappoint with a below AAA score. That's the dealio, yo.

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#25 chathuranga
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[QUOTE="chathuranga"]It seems like they put a lot of emphasis on online play (judging by the trophies allocated to online play) and this worries me. I don't want really want the devs taking time to work on online multiplayer when they chttp://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27136435&tag=topics;title#quick_quoteould be using the time to make an amazing single player game. I just don't think BioShock 2 will be on par with the first one. Same thing happened with Uncharted 2, in my opinion. I had high hopes for Uncharted 2 but it just didn't give me the enjoyment that the first Uncharted did. 67gt500
I could be mistaken, but I think that 2K Marin subbed the multiplayer out to some other developer, so they could devote all their resources to the SP...

Interesting... If this is true, then my interest in BioShock 2 just increased.
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#26 jasonharris48
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Hmm I haven't checked out anything that has to do with the second BS title (Since the old GI mag with it on the front cover). So honestly I do not know what to expect from the title.

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#27 rolo107
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[QUOTE="NAPK1NS"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Oh yeah, Homecoming was a very solid game and I still stand by that 100%. Tru dat, brotha.

And yes, this won't be AAA, thus it's a flop.

BioShockOwnz

Please stop talking like that. :?

Don't hate, appreciate, bro. I feel BioShock 2 will disappoint with a below AAA score. That's the dealio, yo.

That doesn't mean it won't be AA, and I honestly didn't feel like it was going to get AAA. Isn't it being done by a different team? Regardless, AA Bioshock is still a great game. I'm pretty sure I've read posts from you that indicate you aren't one to snub an AA title.
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#28 jasonharris48
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[QUOTE="NAPK1NS"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Oh yeah, Homecoming was a very solid game and I still stand by that 100%. Tru dat, brotha.

And yes, this won't be AAA, thus it's a flop.

BioShockOwnz

Please stop talking like that. :?

Don't hate, appreciate, bro. I feel BioShock 2 will disappoint with a below AAA score. That's the dealio, yo.

Sorry to hate but you're lagging when it comes to your Ebonics lol.

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#29 NAPK1NS
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[QUOTE="NAPK1NS"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Oh yeah, Homecoming was a very solid game and I still stand by that 100%. Tru dat, brotha.

And yes, this won't be AAA, thus it's a flop.

BioShockOwnz

Please stop talking like that. :?

Don't hate, appreciate, bro. I feel BioShock 2 will disappoint with a below AAA score. That's the dealio, yo.

It would probably score higher than your ebonics, "bro." :|
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#30 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="NAPK1NS"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Oh yeah, Homecoming was a very solid game and I still stand by that 100%. Tru dat, brotha.

And yes, this won't be AAA, thus it's a flop.

BioShockOwnz

Please stop talking like that. :?

Don't hate, appreciate, bro. I feel BioShock 2 will disappoint with a below AAA score. That's the dealio, yo.

Lol If history has taught us anything show Us one HUGE game that has scored lower than it's AAA predecessor. I mean, sure gear scored lower but it stayed within range didn't it?
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#31 nintendoboy16
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Hey, Animal-Mother's back. :shock: On topic, meh, not really sure if this'll flop really. Mainly because I still haven't played the first one. I guess time will tell overall.
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#32 ironcreed
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A flop? Who knows, but I know I have not seen anything that has made me want to run out and buy it when it releases.

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#33 Parasomniac
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I'm not gonna say the game will flop after seeing 5 minutes of it cause I love Bioshock. The beginning isn't epic at all though.
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#34 scarface_dm
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I loved the first also but I dont know theres nothing about the sequal that screams BUY ME yet

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#35 SparkyProtocol
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I am hyping it AAA. You can quote me on it. I bet 1000 digital clams that it will meet the AAA hype.
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#36 Animal-Mother
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I am hyping it AAA. You can quote me on it. I bet 1000 digital clams that it will meet the AAA hype.SparkyProtocol
LOL digital clams.
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#37 AAllxxjjnn
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="NAPK1NS"]Please stop talking like that. :?jasonharris48

Don't hate, appreciate, bro. I feel BioShock 2 will disappoint with a below AAA score. That's the dealio, yo.

Sorry to hate but you're lagging when it comes to your Ebonics lol.

Yo, i think he's doing that philly accent thing.
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#38 SparkyProtocol
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[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"]I am hyping it AAA. You can quote me on it. I bet 1000 digital clams that it will meet the AAA hype.Animal-Mother
LOL digital clams.

Well digital crabs doesn't sound too pleasent.
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#39 Ncsoftlover
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are you still going to carry this ID around?

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#40 Im_single
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Gotta say; There was no story, nothing pulled you into Rapture, you just were in Rapture, no interesting enemies, no back story, no tension, nothing. Anybody can tell you that in film making 101 (Holds true to gaming also) you have to grab the audience right off the bat, you have to pull them in with some story device or dilemma that will intrigue the viewer and make them want to continue on, otherwise they are bored and thus disinterested in what they are watching (Or playing). that intro felt amateurish and boring, not a good sign at all.
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#41 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="NAPK1NS"]Please stop talking like that. :?NAPK1NS

Don't hate, appreciate, bro. I feel BioShock 2 will disappoint with a below AAA score. That's the dealio, yo.

It would probably score higher than your ebonics, "bro." :|

Just reppin', bro. Don't be so defensive. Ease up, my man, ease up. We're all down, bro.

But AA's are great, but BioShock 2 AA = flop.

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#42 destro123
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Lol, not at all.

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#43 scarface_dm
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[QUOTE="NAPK1NS"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Don't hate, appreciate, bro. I feel BioShock 2 will disappoint with a below AAA score. That's the dealio, yo.

BioShockOwnz

It would probably score higher than your ebonics, "bro." :|

Just reppin', bro. Don't be so defensive. Ease up, my man, ease up. We're all down, bro.

But AA's are great, but BioShock 2 AA = flop.

Calm down homeboy :? :P

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#44 XxSTILL_BORNxX
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I just watched the first 5 minutes...

http://www.gametrailers.com/user-movie/bioshock-2-first-5-minutes/336808?playlist=featured

I don't like to watch the beginning of games, especially after how awesome the first was, but I seriously needed some convincing with this one. I heard it's not quite on par with the opening of the original, so I didn't feel too dirty. And boy, they were right.

You're not missing much if you don't watch it. A crappy beginning and a game that feels like a bad version of the prior game. It just seems so... meh.

BioShockOwnz

Well for me, im just sick of FPS's so i'll pass on this one and get it later down the road in 2010. Im more interested in the TPS/RTS games. Way way too much shooters. As for the game itself, i think its going to get better and better as you progress...just like Bioshock 1. But for me, im just sick of FPS's at the moment.

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#45 emorainbo
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[QUOTE="NAPK1NS"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Don't hate, appreciate, bro. I feel BioShock 2 will disappoint with a below AAA score. That's the dealio, yo.

BioShockOwnz

It would probably score higher than your ebonics, "bro." :|

Just reppin', bro. Don't be so defensive. Ease up, my man, ease up. We're all down, bro.

But AA's are great, but BioShock 2 AA = flop.

Im LOLipopping over here LOL.

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#46 teh_shogun
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are you serious? this has to be the biggest cry for attention i've heard in a while.

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#47 ImOldGreg
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[QUOTE="67gt500"]You seemed stoked for Damnation, but not for this?BioShockOwnz

Harharhar, you're a funny man!

:P

Seriously, though, nah, this looks like a poor clone of the original with a Big Daddy mod.

...That's near the corner stone of my intrest.- YOUR A BIG DADDY!! I don't care if the game turns out to just be an underwater tetris knock off. You get to play around as an freak'in undersea frankenstien! :P Anyway, I have faith in this sequel- the addtion of underwater exploration and interactivity betwe plasmids/plasmids and plasmids/weapon's are tenwo features I yearned foe in the first installment and they look to have implimented quite well in the preveiws. Though I can only hope that the multilayer is being handled with as much care...my eyebrows are still crinkled with steely concern on that feature.
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#48 foxhound_fox
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Fully and completely expected. BioShock was only successful because of hype. I apologize to everyone out there for my lack of judgment.

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#49 Wasdie  Moderator
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Give me a carbon copy of the first game with new levels and I will still love it to death. I love Rapture, I want to go back.

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#50 lawlessx
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BioShockOwnz,are you serious? you really think this game has a huge chance of flopping because the first 5 mins isn't as interesting as the first game?