Which fighting franchise is the MOST technical?

By most technical I mean deep in detail, moderate learning curve and variety in fighting styles.

To make this really simple: In the ______________ franchise, who is more likely to win? The intermidiate player or the novice/button masher player??

For me it would be the Tekken franchise. There are lots of characters with unique fighting styles and each have lots of moves. It's easy to get into this game but very hard to master. I think the advanced player has a very very good chance at beating a buttom masher. Maybe 85% for the tekken head. But I have to admite there are some characters you can buttom mash with and do a good job with.

There was a review I watched for VF and he claimed that button mashing won't get you anywhere b/c it's all about timing. If this is true I would have to say this is the deepest and most advanced fighting game, but unfortunately I have yet to see for my self.

Another game would be SF. The learning curve for the special moves and learning to use them instantley is important but this means it gets repetitive. But a button masher doesn't stand much of a chance.

Well that's my opinions what's yours?!!

P.S I wanted to add more games to the poll but couldn't!!

I wanted to add DoA, Blazblue, Fight Night, UFC & MK vs DC.

Why is Guilty Gear/Blazblue not on this list?!

Edit: Soz lol I just saw that at the end of your post. But yeah I believe Blazblue is the most technical fighting game

Virtua Fighter of course

Why is Guilty Gear/Blazblue not on this list?!

Edit: Soz lol I just saw that at the end of your post. But yeah I believe Blazblue is the most technical fighting game

cdav89

As for 3d. I give the nod to VF though Tekken does have its tricks.

it is virtua fighter... not opinion but fact

The whole list is laughable because there is no Guilty Gear/Blaz Blue. Guilty Gear is also the most balanced fighting game series.

it is virtua fighter... not opinion but fact

KittyHeart

Tekken!! :twisted: And horay for the Smashing Pumpkins mexicangordo!...WTF is billy trying to do in that picture? :?ImOldGreg

The whole list is laughable because there is no Guilty Gear/Blaz Blue. Guilty Gear is also the most balanced fighting game series.

Burning-Sludge

[QUOTE="cdav89"]

Why is Guilty Gear/Blazblue not on this list?!

Edit: Soz lol I just saw that at the end of your post. But yeah I believe Blazblue is the most technical fighting game

mexicangordo

As for 3d. I give the nod to VF though Tekken does have its tricks.

The whole list is laughable because there is no Guilty Gear/Blaz Blue. Guilty Gear is also the most balanced fighting game series.

Burning-Sludge

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]

[QUOTE="cdav89"]

Why is Guilty Gear/Blazblue not on this list?!

Edit: Soz lol I just saw that at the end of your post. But yeah I believe Blazblue is the most technical fighting game

insomnia37

As for 3d. I give the nod to VF though Tekken does have its tricks.

The whole list is laughable because there is no Guilty Gear/Blaz Blue. Guilty Gear is also the most balanced fighting game series.

Burning-Sludge

have you seen the moves list for Virtua Fighter 5?

I gotta go with SF. It is the most easy to pick up yet hard to master type of game. Very well rounded game. Blazblue take a considerable amount of time to learn the complexity of it (not very users friendly who are new). As for button mashing, I dont think it will get you anywhere when you are facing an experience player in all fighting games. Any new SF players can pick up and do this:

But It probably wont get you far. I was once a victim of this :P.

It's definetely NOT tekken it's not easy at all to beat a SKILLED player - unless your whoring out with Eddy or Christie.

anyone would know its virtua fighter for 3d fighter...its not just the move list the properties and the number of uses each move has is beyond any other 3d fighter...2D fighters would be more of a matter of preference between guilty gear and SF they both offer good variety yet have different strengths and weakness...i personally prefer SF

For 3d fighters its Virtua fighter

For 2D the guilty gear series is miles above the titles you named in that pathetic poll.

I cant wait to see what the Blazblue series will shape up to

I guess this chart gives a good display of what any fighter feels like haha

[QUOTE="ImOldGreg"]Tekken!! :twisted: And horay for the Smashing Pumpkins mexicangordo!...WTF is billy trying to do in that picture? :?mexicangordo

Guilty Gear is.

Tekken is winning this poll- this shows the insane amount of fail in this message board... 90% of these kids probably haven't ever played a Virtua Fighter game...this is the FPS gen, arcade fighters are left in the cold...

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]

[QUOTE="ImOldGreg"]Tekken!! :twisted: And horay for the Smashing Pumpkins mexicangordo!...WTF is billy trying to do in that picture? :?raskullibur

Guilty Gear/BlazBlue. its not even up for debate. also 3D fighters can never be technical as 2D.xxThyLordxx

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH... okay, I'm done.

Guilty Gear/BlazBlue. its not even up for debate. also 3D fighters can never be technical as 2D.xxThyLordxx

A few quotes I found on teh awnlinez...

"It is extremely difficult to fully master all 13 characters, all of them with speed, weight, power, defense and reversal techniques that completely vary, add the 100 per character moves, and it is truly difficult to simply take all of the characters at once." - LINK

"The Virtua Fighter series has been known as one of the most technical and advanced fighting games ever, only rivaled by the likes of the Soul Calibur and Tekken series. These days, VF seems to be the only 3D fighting game left that is actually going for "realism."" - LINK

"You know those 3D fighting games that are so popular nowadays? Well all of them -- Tekken, Soul Calibur, Dead or Alive -- owe their inspiration to SEGA's Virtua Fighter. VF wasn't only the first 3D fighter, it was, and remains, one of the most technical fighters you'll ever play. Fireballs and fantastic creatures are eschewed in favor of mostly realistic fighting moves." - LINK

""SEGA delivers the most technical fighting game experience on Xbox 360 with this installment of the award-winning Virtua Fighter series,"" - LINK

"Otherwise, those who don't have as much experience with the coin-op will discover that Virtua Fighter 2 is hardly a mindless action game but rather a highly technical and totally fast-paced battle of wits. If you're a fighting game fan or if you're wondering what the fuss is all about, don't pass it up." - LINK

Try mastering Akira, then tell me this is not the most complex, technical fighting game out there...

[QUOTE="xxThyLordxx"]Guilty Gear/BlazBlue. its not even up for debate. also 3D fighters can never be technical as 2D.hot114

not sure how they could say that :\

tekken 6 it has motion blur on the movements. Soul Calibur has nice graphics too.

VF. If you dont know the move spread **** buttont for button theres no point in playing. Thats why I never really liked it. It forces you to learn all the moves button for button. I dont mind learing some moves,but dam if your not precised with VF it wont come out. I like fighters thats easy to jump in,but you can still become a monster in it if you wish. Which VF doesint fall under that.

A few quotes I found on teh awnlinez...

"It is extremely difficult to fully master all 13 characters, all of them with speed, weight, power, defense and reversal techniques that completely vary, add the 100 per character moves, and it is truly difficult to simply take all of the characters at once." - LINK

"The Virtua Fighter series has been known as one of the most technical and advanced fighting games ever, only rivaled by the likes of the Soul Calibur and Tekken series. These days, VF seems to be the only 3D fighting game left that is actually going for "realism."" - LINK

"You know those 3D fighting games that are so popular nowadays? Well all of them -- Tekken, Soul Calibur, Dead or Alive -- owe their inspiration to SEGA's Virtua Fighter. VF wasn't only the first 3D fighter, it was, and remains, one of the most technical fighters you'll ever play. Fireballs and fantastic creatures are eschewed in favor of mostly realistic fighting moves." - LINK

""SEGA delivers the most technical fighting game experience on Xbox 360 with this installment of the award-winning Virtua Fighter series,"" - LINK

"Otherwise, those who don't have as much experience with the coin-op will discover that Virtua Fighter 2 is hardly a mindless action game but rather a highly technical and totally fast-paced battle of wits. If you're a fighting game fan or if you're wondering what the fuss is all about, don't pass it up." - LINK

Try mastering Akira, then tell me this is not the most complex, technical fighting game out there...

Scoob64

[QUOTE="Scoob64"]

A few quotes I found on teh awnlinez...

"It is extremely difficult to fully master all 13 characters, all of them with speed, weight, power, defense and reversal techniques that completely vary, add the 100 per character moves, and it is truly difficult to simply take all of the characters at once." - LINK

"The Virtua Fighter series has been known as one of the most technical and advanced fighting games ever, only rivaled by the likes of the Soul Calibur and Tekken series. These days, VF seems to be the only 3D fighting game left that is actually going for "realism."" - LINK

"You know those 3D fighting games that are so popular nowadays? Well all of them -- Tekken, Soul Calibur, Dead or Alive -- owe their inspiration to SEGA's Virtua Fighter. VF wasn't only the first 3D fighter, it was, and remains, one of the most technical fighters you'll ever play. Fireballs and fantastic creatures are eschewed in favor of mostly realistic fighting moves." - LINK

""SEGA delivers the most technical fighting game experience on Xbox 360 with this installment of the award-winning Virtua Fighter series,"" - LINK

"Otherwise, those who don't have as much experience with the coin-op will discover that Virtua Fighter 2 is hardly a mindless action game but rather a highly technical and totally fast-paced battle of wits. If you're a fighting game fan or if you're wondering what the fuss is all about, don't pass it up." - LINK

Try mastering Akira, then tell me this is not the most complex, technical fighting game out there...

insomnia37

start out in training mode first of all... and the most accessible ones IMO to start off with are definitely Jackie and Sarah- but Kage and Pai can be accessible... I'm probably not the best to ask though b/c I started playing Virtua Fighter on the Saturn so at this point all the base chars are fairly accessible... I just remember Akira being the hardest to become familiar with...

tekken 6 it has motion blur on the movements. Soul Calibur has nice graphics too.

SLIisaownsystem

:roll: he didnt mean technically good graphics the TC is talking about technical gameplay ...i hope most of the people here arent voting for tekken because of technically good graphics ....

[QUOTE="SLIisaownsystem"]

tekken 6 it has motion blur on the movements. Soul Calibur has nice graphics too.

sonic_xa

:roll: he didnt mean technically good graphics the TC is talking about technical gameplay ...i hope most of the people here arent voting for tekken because of technically good graphics ....

makes sense...you might as well put dragon ball in there am sure that ll get some votes as well :P

[QUOTE="SLIisaownsystem"]

tekken 6 it has motion blur on the movements. Soul Calibur has nice graphics too.

sonic_xa

:roll: he didnt mean technically good graphics the TC is talking about technical gameplay ...i hope most of the people here arent voting for tekken because of technically good graphics ....

its all about the graphics or do you prefer DoA4 where Kasumis hair go into her body.

yea but the topic is about how technical the gameplay is not graphics..number of things u can do,game mechanics etc...even if kasumis hair went though her body if the gameplay was better it would be called the better fighter

Virtua Fighter with Tekken in close second.

[QUOTE="raskullibur"][QUOTE="mexicangordo"] A nod to the Pumpkins on SW? Thats a first. And that picture was taken in 1995 when Billy was losing his hair, during the Mellon Collie era. He has his arm's shaped like an O to represent Zero, which no one knew at the time. ;)

ImOldGreg

[QUOTE="insomnia37"]

[QUOTE="Scoob64"]

A few quotes I found on teh awnlinez...

"It is extremely difficult to fully master all 13 characters, all of them with speed, weight, power, defense and reversal techniques that completely vary, add the 100 per character moves, and it is truly difficult to simply take all of the characters at once." - LINK

"The Virtua Fighter series has been known as one of the most technical and advanced fighting games ever, only rivaled by the likes of the Soul Calibur and Tekken series. These days, VF seems to be the only 3D fighting game left that is actually going for "realism."" - LINK

"You know those 3D fighting games that are so popular nowadays? Well all of them -- Tekken, Soul Calibur, Dead or Alive -- owe their inspiration to SEGA's Virtua Fighter. VF wasn't only the first 3D fighter, it was, and remains, one of the most technical fighters you'll ever play. Fireballs and fantastic creatures are eschewed in favor of mostly realistic fighting moves." - LINK

""SEGA delivers the most technical fighting game experience on Xbox 360 with this installment of the award-winning Virtua Fighter series,"" - LINK

"Otherwise, those who don't have as much experience with the coin-op will discover that Virtua Fighter 2 is hardly a mindless action game but rather a highly technical and totally fast-paced battle of wits. If you're a fighting game fan or if you're wondering what the fuss is all about, don't pass it up." - LINK

Try mastering Akira, then tell me this is not the most complex, technical fighting game out there...

Scoob64

start out in training mode first of all... and the most accessible ones IMO to start off with are definitely Jackie and Sarah- but Kage and Pai can be accessible... I'm probably not the best to ask though b/c I started playing Virtua Fighter on the Saturn so at this point all the base chars are fairly accessible... I just remember Akira being the hardest to become familiar with...

VF is dead unforturately, massive move lists per char ...stil...3rd strike,being played at major events such as EVO has got to be the most technical, thanks to its parry system there is not a situation you cannot survive if your skilled enough to anticipate and time the parries

Street Fighter, namely 3rd Strike. I'd have said Virtua Fighter, but I swear it has been dumbed down over the years.

There is no defined answer to that its all subjective inreality it depends more on the players of those games then it does the games themselves.
Its insane the amount of practice and frame reading that people will do on games like blazblue, street fighter hell even tekken. Just awesome the stuff in tournaments these people do.

This gen is easily Blazblue, each character is so different and so unique, mastering 2 or 3 characters requieres so much dedication, hell, mastering one single character can take you months of training, have any doubts? go on and pick Carl Clover.

Of all time, i'll go with Guilty Gear, is just like Blazblue but 10 more complex.

This gen is easily Blazblue, each character is so different and so unique, mastering 2 or 3 characters requieres so much dedication, hell, mastering one single character can take you months of training, have any doubts? go on and pick Carl Clover.

Of all time, i'll go with Guilty Gear, is just like Blazblue but 10 more complex.

madsnakehhh

I'd say Arcana Heart 3 is more technical than Blazblue because of arcanas. Hell I'd say KOF13 is more complex than BB.

By the way, this is a old thread people.