What looks better, Killzone 2, MGS4, Kameo, Fable 2 or Lost Odyssey ?

The moment of truth is here, pick your best, i will only post IN GAME 720p pics

MGS4

Lost Odyssey

Killzone 2

Fable 2

Kameo

Your not fooling anybody who has actually played MGS4 on their own TV. So just keep posting those really horrible captures. People who have played it know how good it looks and people who haven't really can't say which game looks the best out of them because they haven't played them all.

Basically we have to somehow take your word for it that those pictures you post are exactly 100% what each one of those games looks like every minute you play the game.

Your not fooling anybody who has actually played MGS4 on their own TV. So just keep posting those really horrible captures. People who have played it know how good it looks and people who haven't really can't say which game looks the best out of them because they haven't played them all.

Basically we have to somehow take your word for it that those pictures you post are exactly 100% what each one of those games looks like every minute you play the game.

Wasdie

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Your not fooling anybody who has actually played MGS4 on their own TV. So just keep posting those really horrible captures. People who have played it know how good it looks and people who haven't really can't say which game looks the best out of them because they haven't played them all.

Basically we have to somehow take your word for it that those pictures you post are exactly 100% what each one of those games looks like every minute you play the game.

obamanian

Killzone 2 looks much better than anything else you posted.Cherokee_Jack

[QUOTE="obamanian"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Your not fooling anybody who has actually played MGS4 on their own TV. So just keep posting those really horrible captures. People who have played it know how good it looks and people who haven't really can't say which game looks the best out of them because they haven't played them all.

Basically we have to somehow take your word for it that those pictures you post are exactly 100% what each one of those games looks like every minute you play the game.

Wasdie

All those games will look far better on a HDTV, but what looks best here will look best on that TV too

If you think MGS4 looks better on your TV, then you have to see how Fable 2, Lost Odyssey and Kameo look !!!

MGS4 does look better on a HDTV, but the environment is still as bland and empty, i have played the game you know, it is not like your TV adds detail, better textures/shaders and mor trees around or something

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]Killzone 2 looks much better than anything else you posted.obamanian

[QUOTE="obamanian"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]Killzone 2 looks much better than anything else you posted.Wasdie

As they were praising MGS4 for its visuals, they praise every hyped game visuals, i will stick to my own two eyes to decide what really looks best

For me clealry Fable 2 takes the crown in environments by miles, with Kameo 2ond, Kameo in textures/shaders/water and Lost Odyssey in character models and has some amazing lighting/texture/shaders too

Fable 2 and Killzone 2 take the crown in lighting, only Fable 2 apples that lighting to a stunningly huge and detailed environment, and not in barren small stages like KZ2

Killzone 2 destroys anything in animation, physics and post effects though

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]Killzone 2 looks much better than anything else you posted.obamanian

[QUOTE="obamanian"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]Killzone 2 looks much better than anything else you posted.Wasdie

Just FYI, he has been banned four times on Team Xbox for this foolishness. Do not expect to get anywhere in an argument with him. He post that same MGS4 EVERY time.:lol:

and yes, this 360 Magazine had great things to say. http://blog.360magazine.co.uk/uncategorized/competition-check-killzone-edition/

All those games will look far better on a HDTV, but what looks best here will look best on that TV too

If you think MGS4 looks better on your TV, then you have to see how Fable 2, Lost Odyssey and Kameo look !!!

MGS4 does look better on a HDTV, but the environment is still as bland and empty, i have playd the game you know

obamanian

I'm not questioning if you have played the game or not. I am saying that reguardless of what screenshot you post, your not going to suddenly convince everybody here that all of those games look way better than it. I have played Lost Odyssey on this HDTV and I can say it looked good, just not as good as MGS4. I can't speak for Fable 2 or Kameo though.

MGS4, no matter how you spin it, still is a very amazing game. The lighting effects are amazing as well as the character models and how detailed the enviroments are (even if your convinced they were bland).

[QUOTE="obamanian"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]Killzone 2 looks much better than anything else you posted.Cherokee_Jack

That is pretty much what it came down to on TXB as well. Ol "Kost" here cannot find beauty in anything unless there are lush green rolling hills filled with the fairy folk.:D

[QUOTE="obamanian"]

All those games will look far better on a HDTV, but what looks best here will look best on that TV too

If you think MGS4 looks better on your TV, then you have to see how Fable 2, Lost Odyssey and Kameo look !!!

MGS4 does look better on a HDTV, but the environment is still as bland and empty, i have playd the game you know

Wasdie

I'm not questioning if you have played the game or not. I am saying that reguardless of what screenshot you post, your not going to suddenly convince everybody here that all of those games look way better than it. I have played Lost Odyssey on this HDTV and I can say it looked good, just not as good as MGS4. I can't speak for Fable 2 or Kameo though.

MGS4, no matter how you spin it, still is a very amazing game. The lighting effects are amazing as well as the character models and how detailed the enviroments are (even if your convinced they were bland).

You really think MGS4 environments are detailed ? Makes me think you have not played the game TBH

[QUOTE="Wasdie"][QUOTE="obamanian"] I do not see it at all It has worst lighting, textures, detail than any of the other titles, even worst than the rather empty looking MGS4 The charatcer model in Lost Odyssey make the ones in KZ2 look terrible tooobamanian

As they were praising MGS4 for its visuals, they praise every hyped game visuals, i will stick to my own two eyes to decide what really looks best

For me clealry Fable 2 takes the crown in environments by miles, with Kameo 2ond, Kameo in textures/shaders/water and Lost Odyssey in character models and has some amazing lighting/texture/shaders too

Fable 2 and Killzone 2 take the crown in lighting, only Fable 2 apples that lighting to a stunningly huge and detailed environment, and not in barren small stages like KZ2

Killzone 2 destroys anything in animation, physics and post effects though

Your opinion is one thing, but posting by far the worst MGS4 picture you could find (ok not the worst, but defeantly not close to a fair representation) just because you feel that the game is not as pretty as the other titles, isn't exactly a fair way to start a thread like this. Then trying to convince me that is how it looks becasue it is sub 720p also doesn't help.

BTW have a look at how some 2009 games on 3600 look like, you will not believe your eyes

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26715971&tag=topics;title

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You really think MGS4 environments are detailed ? Makes me think you have not played the game TBH

obamanian

Well your obvious hate for MGS4 makes me think you have not played the game either.

BTW have a look at how some 2009 games on 3600 look like, you will not believe your eyes

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26715971&tag=topics;title

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obamanian

Your opinion is one thing, but posting by far the worst MGS4 picture you could find (ok not the worst, but defeantly not close to a fair representation) just because you feel that the game is not as pretty as the other titles, isn't exactly a fair way to start a thread like this. Then trying to convince me that is how it looks becasue it is sub 720p also doesn't help. Wasdie

Ok, here is the deal, you provide me with a in game (must be in game certified) pic of MGS4 in 720p, and i will change mine with yours

And not a cut scene or the usual touched up Sony pics please

If you can, make it show a big level, not some tiny one, since i try to compare the scale of those games too

I think i am beeing fair, i will post your pic

[QUOTE="Wasdie"] Your opinion is one thing, but posting by far the worst MGS4 picture you could find (ok not the worst, but defeantly not close to a fair representation) just because you feel that the game is not as pretty as the other titles, isn't exactly a fair way to start a thread like this. Then trying to convince me that is how it looks becasue it is sub 720p also doesn't help. obamanian

Ok, here is the deal, you provide me with a in game (must be in game certified) pic of MGS4 in 720p, and i will change mine with yours

And not a cut scene or the usual touched up Sony pics please

If you can, make it show a big level, not some tiny one, since i try to compare the scale of those games too

Well your not going to find a big level in MGS4, the scale was much smaller. Thats how all MGS games have always been. But anyways heres a few that I could find.

Theres two. They are blury, but in all honesty I can't remember that game being extremely crisp and clean. Anyways they are still better than the one you posted.

KZ2 looks wway better than any of those.

Btw you choose the worst pic for mgs4 i've ever seen, here are some better ones, rainden vs vamp shall we?

Stop posting cut-scene pics, will not make any difference

From those other IN GAME MGS4, seems that when nvironments are tiny, MGS4 looks good, still far from great, but better than the more open ones

Stop posting cut-scene pics, will not make any difference

From those other IN GAME MGS4, seems that when nvironments are tiny, MGS4 looks good, still far from great, but better than the more open ones

obamanian

Edited my post, the last one is in game.Please dude before you talk about mgs4, go to a friend's house or something and play the game on a 42" 1080p tv, then come back and tell me that mgs4 doesn't look great :P

Oh and don't worry, cutscenes aren't CGI :)

Killzone 2 OBVIOUSLY. and why post a horrid MGS4 shot? doesn't look like that. Eyezonmii

It actually looks like that, the pic was 100% in game, but looks more vibrand on a HDTV like all those games do though, all look better on a TV

BTW i changed the pic with a better one posted here, even though that new one has 1/10 the scale of my pic, ands when you reduce scale you can have more things around

To fully understand Kost and his epic crusade you need a deeper observation of his posting history.

http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=607858&page=8

The fun begins six post down.

It gets truly epic 10 post down when he list his "top 10 games that outdo Killzone 2 graphically."

If you read long enough you will start to understand why he has been banned here (once?) and Team Xbox at least four times.

[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]Killzone 2 OBVIOUSLY. and why post a horrid MGS4 shot? doesn't look like that. obamanian

It actually looks like that, the pic was 100% in game, but looks more vibrand on a HDTV like all those games do though, all look better on a TV

BTW i changed the pic with a better one posted here, even though that new one has 1/10 the scale of my pic, ands when you reduce scale you can have more things around

[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]Killzone 2 OBVIOUSLY. and why post a horrid MGS4 shot? doesn't look like that. obamanian

It actually looks like that, the pic was 100% in game, but looks more vibrand on a HDTV like all those games do though, all look better on a TV

BTW i changed the pic with a better one posted here, even though that new one has 1/10 the scale of my pic, ands when you reduce scale you can have more things around

100% washed in game. Please stop with this nonsense, the game looks great and isn't nowhere near that blurry, take this from a guy who played the game.Also you should liste to eyezonmii cuz he played the game as well :)

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[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]Killzone 2 OBVIOUSLY. and why post a horrid MGS4 shot? doesn't look like that. Al3x_n90

It actually looks like that, the pic was 100% in game, but looks more vibrand on a HDTV like all those games do though, all look better on a TV

BTW i changed the pic with a better one posted here, even though that new one has 1/10 the scale of my pic, ands when you reduce scale you can have more things around

100% washed in game. Please stop with this nonsense, the game looks great and isn't nowhere near that blurry, take this from a guy who played the game.Also you should liste to eyezonmii cuz he played the game as well :)

The game is confirmed sub 720p, so it is actually that blurry, the HDTV covers for much of that blurryness though

Have you played Fable 2 because the moments it's supposed to look it's best, the fps value goes down. Have you ever tried to AOE a room of enemies, it's horrible. You can post still shots all you want but Fable 2 and LO aren't very impressive on a technical level since there are major dips in fps in both of those. tmntPunchout

Well, considering Fable 2 is 10x or more the scale of the biggest MGS4, Killzone 2 etc level, i guess it run surprisingly smoothly 99% of the time

BTW you must have a broken 360, there are no major slowdowns anywhere, i never had such a problem with Fable 2, and Lost Odyssey loading is now half with a HDD istall

killzone obviously http://www.gametrailers.com/player/44316.html

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/44237.html

only a true fanboy can say it looks bad

mgs4 gets second place

kliizone 2 > metal gesr solid 4 >>>> everything else you posted

mgs4 looks much better (you choose the worst screenshots and you post them)

killzone obviously http://www.gametrailers.com/player/44316.html

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/44237.html

only a true fanboy can say it looks bad

mgs4 gets second place

toast_burner

Great pic. :D

kliizone 2 > metal gesr solid 4 >>>> everything else you posted

mgs4 looks much better (you choose the worst screenshots and you post them)

sasapac

Well the polls turned out about as I expected. Did we get paid off as well Kost?

Please do tell us that story about how Sony pays for good scores. I always do love that one.:P

[QUOTE="sasapac"]

kliizone 2 > metal gesr solid 4 >>>> everything else you posted

mgs4 looks much better (you choose the worst screenshots and you post them)

obamanian

:lol:.... :?

Saolin? :shock:

Either way, I think we know who the one guy that voted for Fable is now...

[QUOTE="tmntPunchout"]Have you played Fable 2 because the moments it's supposed to look it's best, the fps value goes down. Have you ever tried to AOE a room of enemies, it's horrible. You can post still shots all you want but Fable 2 and LO aren't very impressive on a technical level since there are major dips in fps in both of those. obamanian

Well, considering Fable 2 is 10x or more the scale of the biggest MGS4, Killzone 2 etc level, i guess it run surprisingly smoothly 99% of the time

BTW you must have a broken 360, there are no major slowdowns anywhere, i never had such a problem with Fable 2, and Lost Odyssey loading is now half with a HDD istall

Well the 360 isn't a very reliable piece of hardware, could be. But now I need to install the game to make it look good? What happened with just popping in the disk to play?

[QUOTE="obamanian"][QUOTE="sasapac"]

kliizone 2 > metal gesr solid 4 >>>> everything else you posted

mgs4 looks much better (you choose the worst screenshots and you post them)

EliteKitteh

:lol:.... :?

Saolin? :shock:

Yeah, the detail, it's all in the leaves baby, its all in the leaves.

killzone obviously http://www.gametrailers.com/player/44316.html

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/44237.html

only a true fanboy can say it looks bad

mgs4 gets second place

Great pic. :D

Well the 360 isn't a very reliable piece of hardware, could be. But now I need to install the game to make it look good? What happened with just popping in the disk to play? tmntPunchout

The install makes it load faster, not look better

You should read some things about how graphics work first, then post i guess, what you posted just shows ignorance

[QUOTE="tmntPunchout"]Well the 360 isn't a very reliable piece of hardware, could be. But now I need to install the game to make it look good? What happened with just popping in the disk to play? obamanian

The install makes it load faster, not look better

You should read some things about how graphics work first, then post i guess, what you posted just shows ignorance

You should learn to forget about your art style preference when posting about graphics.

If four bans and a legion of your fellow lemmings on TeamXbox telling you that you are wrong does not change your mind I fear all hope is lost for you.

edit: btw, are you ip banned on there yet? A mod pretty much said anytime you are found to be posting on an alt account there to just let them know and they will ban it. You REALLY pissed those people off. :P

Factoring in artistic and technical aspects

1. Metal Gear Solid 4

2. Fable 2

3. Kameo

4. Killzone 2 (Grayzone 2, Boringzone 2, you name it)

5. Lost Odyssey Toriko42

Fable 2 has bigger scale and detail than all those games

Also why did you put MGS4 1st, when it has the same brown, greenish colors everywhere too ? It sure looks better than KZ2 in art, but is almost as boring

[QUOTE="sasapac"]

kliizone 2 > metal gesr solid 4 >>>> everything else you posted

mgs4 looks much better (you choose detail around that Fable 2 levels have, how is it ... better ?obamanian

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/44194.html?type=

killzone 2>>>>fable 2 (interms of graphics, detail and gameplay)

[QUOTE="obamanian"][QUOTE="sasapac"]

kliizone 2 > metal gesr solid 4 >>>> everything else you posted

mgs4 looks much better (you choose detail around that Fable 2 levels have, how is it ... better ?toast_burner

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/44194.html?type=

killzone 2>>>>fable 2 (interms of graphics, detail and gameplay)

You have to be kidding, all i see is emtpy grounds, small levels and blocky architecture

Fable 2 is 10x bigger in scale, and actually is filled with stuff everywhere, like forests, cities etc

It simply destroys KZ2 in scale and detail, you have obviously never played it i guess