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#1 jhcho2
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Looks like hermits are already jumping on the bandwagon to claim Dark Souls II as their own - a franchise that hermits once had to beg to have a chance to play.

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#2 Rage010101
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How does system wars feel about PC being the lead platform for Dark Souls 2? 

Confirmed day 1 release, 1080p, and 60fps.  If they remove GFWL it would be perfect!  I'm gonna pre-order since I did like Dark Souls and also based on this news.

Do you console only owners feel upset about this or are you just as excited about the game itself?

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#3 tagyhag
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This is good for console owners as well. All multiplat games should be PC lead platform. Win win for everybody.
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#4 SaltyMeatballs
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I think it's bad for console version, but the PC version will be good and that's all I care about.
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#5 Rage010101
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I think it's bad for console version, but the PC version will be good and that's all I care about.SaltyMeatballs

I'm totally with you on the pc version since that's the one I care about only as well.

But what makes you think it'll be bad for the consoles?  Just curious

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#6 Rage010101
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This is good for console owners as well. All multiplat games should be PC lead platform. Win win for everybody.tagyhag

I think we're gonna see a similar trend for next gen consoles, especially since both ps4 and 720/Durango have PC architecture.

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#7 BPoole96
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Great news for me. I was half expecting the PC version to be delayed

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#8 k2theswiss
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They better get use to it :).
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#9 Aux99
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I'll probably just get the pc version then

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#10 Rage010101
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[QUOTE="Rage010101"]

[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"]

Saints Row 2 is 1080p/60fps on pc too.PC was obviously the lead platform!

call_of_duty_10

Not sure if you were trying to be a smart @ss but I don't think you understand what the big deal is.  DS1 was literally a direct port.  It only supported 720p (heck i think it was even a lower resolution) and capped at 30fps.  Luckily the mod community provided 1080p right out of the gate and 60fps soon after

This time around, being that the pc version is lead platform, those things will be obvious and common as said by the devs right out of the gate on release date.  So Dark Souls 2 will be a greater experience knowing this info.

So, getting a port that doesn't suck = being the lead platform? Ok then...

Here read this so you can be educated and so that your future posts aren't ill of stupidity

http://www.dsogaming.com/news/dark-souls-2-demo-ran-on-the-pc-at-60fps-pc-lead-platform/

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#11 ShadowDeathX
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No Games for Windows LIVE logo on the box art. I think they will use something else. :)

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#12 Rage010101
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[QUOTE="Rage010101"]

[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"] So, getting a port that doesn't suck = being the lead platform? Ok then...call_of_duty_10

NO you idiot, it is confirmed that the pc version of Dark Souls 2 is lead platform, or have you been living under a rock?  I'm not basing it being lead platform simply because its going to be 1080p and 60fps.  I'm basing it being lead platform because that is literally what the devs have said.

You might say I have been living under a rock:) Never cared about the souls games,so I didn't keep up with the news. But the first post talks about 1080p/60 fps.That's nothing special tbh.Even saints row 2 has that.

Well that's your fault for assuming and not reading the thread in general.  Hell, at what point did I even indicate that I was just guessing that pc is lead platform.  The way everyone was talking about it in this thread highly indicate that everyone knew pc is the lead platform, not to mention there have been other threads about it.  How about next time you dont jump to conclusions and act like an @sshole when you're not well informed about the topic at hand.

No sh*t Saints Row 2 does 1080p/60fps, just like most pc games do.  Seems you're still having trouble understanding why it is special for Dark Souls' case.  Did I not already explain to you how shotty the pc port was for Dark Souls 1?  Basically the devs woke up and are taking pc serious this time around by making Dark Souls 2 the lead platform.  FFS seriously, just read the thread and every post in it so that you're at least informed.

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#13 Snugenz
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LL

It's great tbh, i just hope they avoid shitty DRM like GFWL this time around.

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#14 Rage010101
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No Games for Windows LIVE logo on the box art. I think they will use something else. :)

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Death to GFWL!  Anyway, I never thought about that when I first saw the pc box art.  That definitely gives a sense of reassurance.  Also, I like this box art more than the first dark souls.

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#15 Rage010101
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It's great tbh, i just hope they avoid shitty DRM like GFWL this time around.

Snugenz

Judging from the pc's boxart (Thanks ShadowDeathX for point that out), the GFWL logo is no where to be found.  So it looks like horrible GFWL won't be present for DS2, at least that's what it seems like.

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#16 RoOodriGowW
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Just as excited , i think it's for the better , I mean they did a good job with console versions , I don;t know what the veredict is regarding the PC version but I'm willing to guess it's superior , right?If positive , great , if not , it's their chance to make it porportionally as good as the console versions , i say , bring it!One of the best games this gen , tooooo bad i lost my save file but i have a nice platinum trophy as memento. :P

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#17 Rage010101
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Just as excited , i think it's for the better , I mean they did a good job with console versions , I don;t know what the veredict is regarding the PC version but I'm willing to guess it's superior , right?If positive , great , if not , it's their chance to make it porportionally as good as the console versions , i say , bring it!One of the best games this gen , tooooo bad i lost my save file but i have a nice platinum trophy as memento. :P

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As long as you used the mod to enable 1080p ya it was awesome and very much so superior.  Adding 60 fps mod made it that much more better.  Adding texture mods even more so, and so on.

Only thing I didnt like is that playing it with mouse and keyboard was atrocious since I guess they didn't work on that considering they just did a direct port.  It was no problem though since I enjoyed playing it with my 360 controller by plugging it into my pc.

Considering pc is the lead platform for Dark Souls 2, I want to assume that this time the mouse and keyboard controls will play just fine for those who choose to play it that way.  I personally still intend to play it with 360 controller hooked upto my pc.

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#18 GD1551
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Looks like hermits are already jumping on the bandwagon to claim Dark Souls II as their own - a franchise that hermits once had to beg to have a chance to play.

jhcho2

It's like a rags to riches story!

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#19 lawlessx
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Looks like hermits are already jumping on the bandwagon to claim Dark Souls II as their own - a franchise that hermits once had to beg to have a chance to play.

jhcho2

hermits didn't beg for anything. A rep asked in the game's official  messsage board if PC gamers wanted dark souls and we said yes. ;)

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#20 silversix_
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For those with a decent rig its a no brainer but at the same time if you care about pvp consoles are the only option. Ps3 is deserted but tones of people play on 360 (everyone on ps3 moved to 360 or i dunno wtf is going on) so i'll probably buy my first Souls game on 360 with a 3 months ripoff live card just for this game. Raging nerds on 360 are better with their priceless hate mails anyway.
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#21 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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It's great news, It's also hilarious :P

But I think this can benefit consoles too

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#22 jhcho2
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[QUOTE="jhcho2"]

Looks like hermits are already jumping on the bandwagon to claim Dark Souls II as their own - a franchise that hermits once had to beg to have a chance to play.

lawlessx

hermits didn't beg for anything. A rep asked in the game's official  messsage board if PC gamers wanted dark souls and we said yes. ;)

In the age of internet, a petition is equivalent of 'online begging'. I have to give it to them though. It's one of those very few petitions, if any at all, that actually worked. I never knew petitions to work.

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#23 Basinboy
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Since the PS4 & Xbox 720 are radically similar to traditional PC architecture, lead platform won't translate into as much a disparity between the versions of each game.  BUt since DS2 is apparently for 360, PS3, & PC, it's good to see that the developer has free reign to do whatever they see fit technically.

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#24 Rage010101
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Looks like hermits are already jumping on the bandwagon to claim Dark Souls II as their own - a franchise that hermits once had to beg to have a chance to play.

jhcho2

seems like you're a little sour about the whole thing

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#25 campzor
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This changes nothing....besides the pc version not getting gimped this time
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No Games for Windows LIVE logo on the box art. I think they will use something else. :)

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That box art is awesome as hell.
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For those with a decent rig its a no brainer but at the same time if you care about pvp consoles are the only option. Ps3 is deserted but tones of people play on 360 (everyone on ps3 moved to 360 or i dunno wtf is going on) so i'll probably buy my first Souls game on 360 with a 3 months ripoff live card just for this game. Raging nerds on 360 are better with their priceless hate mails anyway.silversix_
There's plenty of PVP on the PC version of Dark Souls. I get invaded all the time in Anor Londo.
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#28 Rage010101
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This changes nothing....besides the pc version not getting gimped this timecampzor

That gimped version was still the best version.

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#29 Rage010101
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[QUOTE="silversix_"]For those with a decent rig its a no brainer but at the same time if you care about pvp consoles are the only option. Ps3 is deserted but tones of people play on 360 (everyone on ps3 moved to 360 or i dunno wtf is going on) so i'll probably buy my first Souls game on 360 with a 3 months ripoff live card just for this game. Raging nerds on 360 are better with their priceless hate mails anyway.DragonfireXZ95
There's plenty of PVP on the PC version of Dark Souls. I get invaded all the time in Anor Londo.

I got invaded alot for most of my playthrough on pc as well, especially around anor londo

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#30 tagyhag
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This changes nothing....besides the pc version not getting gimped this timecampzor
Not true. When a game is equally made with the systems in mind, it caters to the lowest common denominator (The consoles.) Which means the PC is held back. However, when a PC is the lead platform, that usually means they are able to cater to higher range rigs on the PC and then slowly downgrade it for the console versions. Which means that not only do PC's get the higher version of the port which you would come to expect from the newer hardware, but the console port is easily ported to consoles which means more optimization/less bugs. That's why it's a win/win.
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#31 AdrianWerner
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NExt-gen pretty much every multiplatorm game will be PC-lead, even those that will never appear on PCs. And it's good news for console gamers too

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#32 Jankarcop
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Looks like hermits are already jumping on the bandwagon to claim Dark Souls II as their own - a franchise that hermits once had to beg to have a chance to play.

jhcho2

Someones upset we had the best version of DS1, and well, most games.

 

Just get a better job and join us, kiddo.

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#33 jhcho2
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[QUOTE="jhcho2"]

Looks like hermits are already jumping on the bandwagon to claim Dark Souls II as their own - a franchise that hermits once had to beg to have a chance to play.

Rage010101

seems like you're a little sour about the whole thing

Sympathetic actually.

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#34 jhcho2
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[QUOTE="jhcho2"]

Looks like hermits are already jumping on the bandwagon to claim Dark Souls II as their own - a franchise that hermits once had to beg to have a chance to play.

Jankarcop

Someones upset we had the best version of DS1, and well, most games.

 

Just get a better job and join us, kiddo.

Join you? lol. I've been a Manticore since forever. My PC costs 2000 bucks. If anything, you should join us (Manticores) if you haven't already.

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#35 call_of_duty_10
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Saints Row 2 is 1080p/60fps on pc too.PC was obviously the lead platform!

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#36 the_bi99man
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This is good for console owners as well. All multiplat games should be PC lead platform. Win win for everybody.tagyhag

This. Developing for the most capable system first, then scaling back other versions to meet the sytems they're being made for is the way game development should be. DS2 will not only kick ass on PC, but it will be better on consoles than it would have been otherwise.

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[QUOTE="campzor"]

This changes nothing....besides the pc version not getting gimped this time

tagyhag

Not true. When a game is equally made with the systems in mind, it caters to the lowest common denominator (The consoles.) Which means the PC is held back. However, when a PC is the lead platform, that usually means they are able to cater to higher range rigs on the PC and then slowly downgrade it for the console versions.

Which means that not only do PC's get the higher version of the port which you would come to expect from the newer hardware, but the console port is easily ported to consoles which means more optimization/less bugs. That's why it's a win/win.

Which is precisely why it doesn't matter much to me, it'll all play the same. I guess I'm happy about it, but there isn't anything that incredible about it unless you're buying it on PC, but I don't plan to.

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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="silversix_"]For those with a decent rig its a no brainer but at the same time if you care about pvp consoles are the only option. Ps3 is deserted but tones of people play on 360 (everyone on ps3 moved to 360 or i dunno wtf is going on) so i'll probably buy my first Souls game on 360 with a 3 months ripoff live card just for this game. Raging nerds on 360 are better with their priceless hate mails anyway.Rage010101

There's plenty of PVP on the PC version of Dark Souls. I get invaded all the time in Anor Londo.

I got invaded alot for most of my playthrough on pc as well, especially around anor londo

Yeah, same here. I'm not sure what people are talking about when they talk like the PC versions PVP is broken. It's worked perfectly fine in my time, and I've almost never even been invaded by someone who was obviously a much higher level than me. And I've never seen someone who was hacking. Or if they were, they weren't doing a very good job of it, considering that I've killed my invaders 9 times out of 10.

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#39 Rage010101
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Saints Row 2 is 1080p/60fps on pc too.PC was obviously the lead platform!

call_of_duty_10

Not sure if you were trying to be a smart @ss but I don't think you understand what the big deal is.  DS1 was literally a direct port.  It only supported 720p (heck i think it was even a lower resolution) and capped at 30fps.  Luckily the mod community provided 1080p right out of the gate and 60fps soon after

This time around, being that the pc version is lead platform, those things will be obvious and common as said by the devs right out of the gate on release date.  So Dark Souls 2 will be a greater experience knowing this info.

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#40 the_bi99man
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No Games for Windows LIVE logo on the box art. I think they will use something else. :)

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ShadowDeathX

Here's hoping they just make it Steamworks and keep it simple.

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#41 call_of_duty_10
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[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"]

Saints Row 2 is 1080p/60fps on pc too.PC was obviously the lead platform!

Rage010101

Not sure if you were trying to be a smart @ss but I don't think you understand what the big deal is.  DS1 was literally a direct port.  It only supported 720p (heck i think it was even a lower resolution) and capped at 30fps.  Luckily the mod community provided 1080p right out of the gate and 60fps soon after

This time around, being that the pc version is lead platform, those things will be obvious and common as said by the devs right out of the gate on release date.  So Dark Souls 2 will be a greater experience knowing this info.

So, getting a port that doesn't suck = being the lead platform? Ok then...
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#42 Rage010101
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[QUOTE="Rage010101"]

[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"]

Saints Row 2 is 1080p/60fps on pc too.PC was obviously the lead platform!

call_of_duty_10

Not sure if you were trying to be a smart @ss but I don't think you understand what the big deal is.  DS1 was literally a direct port.  It only supported 720p (heck i think it was even a lower resolution) and capped at 30fps.  Luckily the mod community provided 1080p right out of the gate and 60fps soon after

This time around, being that the pc version is lead platform, those things will be obvious and common as said by the devs right out of the gate on release date.  So Dark Souls 2 will be a greater experience knowing this info.

So, getting a port that doesn't suck = being the lead platform? Ok then...

NO you idiot, it is confirmed that the pc version of Dark Souls 2 is lead platform, or have you been living under a rock?  I'm not basing it being lead platform simply because its going to be 1080p and 60fps.  I'm basing it being lead platform because that is literally what the devs have said.

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#43 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="Rage010101"]

[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"]

Saints Row 2 is 1080p/60fps on pc too.PC was obviously the lead platform!

call_of_duty_10

Not sure if you were trying to be a smart @ss but I don't think you understand what the big deal is.  DS1 was literally a direct port.  It only supported 720p (heck i think it was even a lower resolution) and capped at 30fps.  Luckily the mod community provided 1080p right out of the gate and 60fps soon after

This time around, being that the pc version is lead platform, those things will be obvious and common as said by the devs right out of the gate on release date.  So Dark Souls 2 will be a greater experience knowing this info.

So, getting a port that doesn't suck = being the lead platform? Ok then...

Dark Souls 2 on PC isn't a port; the game is being developed for PC, then ported to consoles. Do you even pay attention around here?
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#44 Rage010101
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[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"][QUOTE="Rage010101"]

Not sure if you were trying to be a smart @ss but I don't think you understand what the big deal is.  DS1 was literally a direct port.  It only supported 720p (heck i think it was even a lower resolution) and capped at 30fps.  Luckily the mod community provided 1080p right out of the gate and 60fps soon after

This time around, being that the pc version is lead platform, those things will be obvious and common as said by the devs right out of the gate on release date.  So Dark Souls 2 will be a greater experience knowing this info.

DragonfireXZ95

So, getting a port that doesn't suck = being the lead platform? Ok then...

Dark Souls 2 on PC isn't a port; the game is being developed for PC, then ported to consoles. Do you even pay attention around here?

I'm not surprised he's a moron considering his name is "cod10" :lol:

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#45 call_of_duty_10
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[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"][QUOTE="Rage010101"]

Not sure if you were trying to be a smart @ss but I don't think you understand what the big deal is.  DS1 was literally a direct port.  It only supported 720p (heck i think it was even a lower resolution) and capped at 30fps.  Luckily the mod community provided 1080p right out of the gate and 60fps soon after

This time around, being that the pc version is lead platform, those things will be obvious and common as said by the devs right out of the gate on release date.  So Dark Souls 2 will be a greater experience knowing this info.

Rage010101

So, getting a port that doesn't suck = being the lead platform? Ok then...

NO you idiot, it is confirmed that the pc version of Dark Souls 2 is lead platform, or have you been living under a rock?  I'm not basing it being lead platform simply because its going to be 1080p and 60fps.  I'm basing it being lead platform because that is literally what the devs have said.

You might say I have been living under a rock:) Never cared about the souls games,so I didn't keep up with the news. But the first post talks about 1080p/60 fps.That's nothing special tbh.Even saints row 2 has that.
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#46 call_of_duty_10
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[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"][QUOTE="Rage010101"]

NO you idiot, it is confirmed that the pc version of Dark Souls 2 is lead platform, or have you been living under a rock?  I'm not basing it being lead platform simply because its going to be 1080p and 60fps.  I'm basing it being lead platform because that is literally what the devs have said.

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You might say I have been living under a rock:) Never cared about the souls games,so I didn't keep up with the news. But the first post talks about 1080p/60 fps.That's nothing special tbh.Even saints row 2 has that.

Well that's your fault for assuming and not reading the thread in general.  Hell, at what point did I even indicate that I was just guessing that pc is lead platform.  The way everyone was talking about it in this thread highly indicate that everyone knew pc is the lead platform, not to mention there have been other threads about it.  How about next time you dont jump to conclusions and act like an @sshole when you're not well informed about the topic at hand.

How the heck was I "acting like an @sshole"?I guess you take everyone's posts too seriously.
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#47 Rocker6
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It's great tbh, i just hope they avoid shitty DRM like GFWL this time around.

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Judging from the pc's boxart (Thanks ShadowDeathX for point that out), the GFWL logo is no where to be found.  So it looks like horrible GFWL won't be present for DS2, at least that's what it seems like.

Yeah, little chance of it appearing. Devs are usually aware how bad it sucks and how hated it is by the PC community, only reason why Dark Souls 1 had it was because it's a direct port, and GFWL is highly similiar to XBL, so that made the porting process easier.

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For all those who don't know, Tanimura said that the PC will be used as a 'base'. I like how people interpret that as anything other than PC being a port. And in case you guys are unaware, using one particular platform as a base happens all the time. Most console multiplats use the 360 as a base, as a result, the ps3 version tends to be the inferior one due to having less RAM, but that doesn't mean the ps3 version is a port.

You wanna know what a port is? The PC version of Dark Souls. That's a port.

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For all those who don't know, Tanimura said that the PC will be used as a 'base'. I like how people interpret that as anything other than PC being a port. And in case you guys are unaware, using one particular platform as a base happens all the time. Most console multiplats use the 360 as a base, as a result, the ps3 version tends to be the inferior one due to having less RAM, but that doesn't mean the ps3 version is a port.

You wanna know what a port is? The PC version of Dark Souls. That's a port.

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While usually reserved for willy, this can be used for other butt hurt filty console peasants.

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#50 jhcho2
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[QUOTE="Rage010101"]

[QUOTE="jhcho2"]

That's what you are doing, not me. I challenge you to prove that any of my posts implied platform superiority.

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Nice to see you forget how upset you got (and still are) over pc version being the lead platform as evident to your previous posts.  You're kidding yourself if you're denying its superiority.  Doesn't sound like manticore behavior to me, sounds more like console fanboy behavior, yep.

Agreed, he is deffo a filthy peasant.

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